Mycelium's "crowdsale": basically a donation, not an investment by any means

[BathSaltsDealer]

^Can't wait for the finale rack. Gonna be glorious

[alani123]

Tokens seem to be issued, is the promise of exchanges still unfulfilled now that May is over?

Exchanges weren't promised, I just said we're working on it and hoping to have the tokens traded on them. But don't forget, before an exchange can add something you can trade, that something has to actually exist first. We only started issuing them recently, and are still in the process. There were a lot of buyers.

You're right, this is a promise you chose not to make. Although it was implied by being a direct point in your marketing campaigns and through your official website.

You believe that no exchange would be interested in trading Mycelium tokens? Why?

It doesn't seem like any exchange rushed to do that, although you said that you tried.

[gravitate]

I'm not suprise he is getting annoyed by comments really he is the manager if this.  I feel lucky to buy tokens and be part of mycelium. They are not going to run off with the bitcoin ffs.

[danijel]

everything went good till now..,a little bit of delay... but that is the nature of doing things
a lot of FUD from some people
guys you do a good work

[Rassah]

It doesn't seem like any exchange rushed to do that, although you said that you tried.

Never claimed exchanges would rush to do that, or that I would only try until the token sale was over and give up. Still working on it. How long does it usually take for an exchange add new crypto after it's released? Like for Etherium for example? Two? Three months?

I know you're not being impatient, and just being a dick though. Not like you have anything invested in this besides hoping to be proven right about something, anything. But, I guess thanks for digging and keeping people/companies honest?

[Rassah]

...Unofficially I'm working more than I've ever worked before. Though I'm curious what exactly about me being retired would put you off.

WTF is your job, being furry & pissing people off?

Btw, sorry, am I pissing you off? How? Sorry if I did.

[Bitcoinpro]

My job is Product Manager of Mycelium wallet. I'm in charge of the project.

Too little, too late on the paying attention thing. We have a pretty good business plan, which was published and described all over the place, but you missed it because you weren't paying attention, and then made claims like we don't have one. Something about opening one's mouth to remove all doubts... But, not like you're an investor, so I won't bother explaining it again. Google is your friend. We've been delivering on promises and maintaining contact with investors too. Just not here.

At least post a link to the business plan if it's the cornerstone to ur argument

[BathSaltsDealer]

...Unofficially I'm working more than I've ever worked before. Though I'm curious what exactly about me being retired would put you off.

WTF is your job, being furry & pissing people off?

Btw, sorry, am I pissing you off? How? Sorry if I did.

You got time to post catty comebacks, but couldn't spare 10 minutes to update this thread. There's that.

[alani123]

It doesn't seem like any exchange rushed to do that, although you said that you tried.

Never claimed exchanges would rush to do that, or that I would only try until the token sale was over and give up. Still working on it. How long does it usually take for an exchange add new crypto after it's released? Like for Etherium for example? Two? Three months?

I know you're not being impatient, and just being a dick though. Not like you have anything invested in this besides hoping to be proven right about something, anything. But, I guess thanks for digging and keeping people/companies honest?

Calling me a dick over criticism? Well that was unnecessary, why would I need to have put a fortune in your project in the first place? If I wasn't putting out valid questions, as many community members in this thread are doing, I guess that you wouldn't be addressing my criticisms in the first place. You could have chosen to do this, but I'm getting called a dick instead.

But either way, I know what you did promise and what you did not. I do however find your comparison with ethereum aimless. Aithereum gathered millions in its presale yet it had no GUI wallet for a good while. You went with a third party token management system from day one. The reason I'm saying that no exchange seems to have rushed to include your token is because I find it remarkable. There were cryptos that were less legitimate than your token that were traded from day one. And don't worry, I'm not saying that it's you that should be blamed, I can't be sure of what's going on in the background. Perhaps no exchange has included the token so far because there's not enough documentation of the colored coin system that is being used, or it could be the complexity of this non-security.

[lordlucan]

Well I invested quite a bit into Mycelium think its a better deal as some of those other ICOs.Not interested if an exchange wants to trade it or not though I bet many will.Here for the long haul till Mycelium turns into a financial institution.
You dont want to trust a company with the best wallet in the world that delivers constantly but you will trust a Russian with millions of dollars in a NXT clone.People get your priorities right.

[darkfur93]

I really like the idea of using Colored Coins. I never received one before.
The colu interface is alight. Seems like they require you to enter a company name which I just used one of my domain names. It looks like you can export your private key.

[Rassah]

At least post a link to the business plan if it's the cornerstone to ur argument

It was part of the announcement, and on the wallet website https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1452147.0

Calling me a dick over criticism?

I never call people dick over criticism. I answered your criticisms. You continued to be a dick afterwards.

If I wasn't putting out valid questions, as many community members in this thread are doing, I guess that you wouldn't be addressing my criticisms in the first place.

They're weren't valid questions, they were invalid claims based on you misunderstanding a bunch of fundamentals that were explained in the documents, and in various other online sources. Typically people ask what something is if they don't understand it, instead of gojng, "Aha! Look what I found hidden in this document! Scammers!" After addressing your questions and criticisms, you just kept pressing with "but you promised" and "you missed that date" Even though nothing of sort was promised. Basically you went from criticisms to trying to find any faults for fault's sake, regardless of whether there was any fault. So, a dick.

The reason I'm saying that no exchange seems to have rushed to include your token is because I find it remarkable. There were cryptos that were less legitimate than your token that were traded from day one. And don't worry, I'm not saying that it's you that should be blamed, I can't be sure of what's going on in the background. Perhaps no exchange has included the token so far because there's not enough documentation of the colored coin system that is being used, or it could be the complexity of this non-security.

I'm still surprised you expected this to be added to an exchange so soon, or faulting anyone that it hasn't yet, or caring whether it is or not, since you don't have tokens and don't intent to buy any (see previous paragraph). I've been in this a while, and things being added right away practically never happens. Only time I remember small cryptos being added from day one was on tiny obscure exchanges, with cryptos that were basically copies of other cryptos and thus easy to set up.

[Bitcoinpro]

another business plan that seems to heavily rely on the word tokin

[Rassah]

I really like the idea of using Colored Coins. I never received one before.
The colu interface is alight. Seems like they require you to enter a company name which I just used one of my domain names. It looks like you can export your private key.

Yeah, that company name is weird. Most people just made something up. Glad to hear Colu is OK and leto you export the private key. I didn't use it because I couldn't participate in this crowdsale.

[Rassah]

another business plan that seems to heavily rely on the word tokin

You must've missed something. Nothing in the business plan relies on tokens.

[Bitcoinpro]

another business plan that seems to heavily rely on the word tokin

You must've missed something. Nothing in the business plan relies on tokens.

can u post a link? also never heard of coloured coins or token

coins living up to their reputation  while this smart contract

stuff  sounds great it's to quickly turned into a ponzi

because of no fixed supply and other fairly lax rules that

really don't constitute a real Crypto and are more likely

than not a trick to confuse the consumer away from

Bitcoins and Litecoins

[lordlucan]

Also I like the Idea your stake is tied to the dollar not Bitcoin

[alani123]

Well I invested quite a bit into Mycelium think its a better deal as some of those other ICOs.Not interested if an exchange wants to trade it or not though I bet many will.Here for the long haul till Mycelium turns into a financial institution.
You dont want to trust a company with the best wallet in the world that delivers constantly but you will trust a Russian with millions of dollars in a NXT clone.People get your priorities right.

It is not an ICO though, which doesn't make the fact that it hasn't been added into any exchanges too surprising, but that's not the only factor. It's not as simple to add colored coins into an exchange when the existing infastructure supports other kinds of tokens. The crowdsale was met with decent success though, based in the money that it attracted. The fact that no exchange Was prepared to add the token at launch kinda gues to show that there wasn't enough interest from third party exchanges, on which Mycelium implied reliance for trading (at least for now). I'm sure that this has been disappointing to certain investors as this non-security hasn't showcased any speculative value so far, which always is in the interest of people that put money in such bitcoin related "investments". But I guess that I am a dick for posting my thoughts on the matter.

[bitbitch]

i would never buy any coin or token if it's not going to be listed on an exchange. alts are not secondary private market assets.

[lordlucan]

I dont think your a dick you have good concerns.The coloured coin is a step up from the normal alt and not easy for an exchange to cope with straight away.Nobody is trading waves and its released a few days except Yobitt and thats a con just.
Good companies look for long term investors so the ability to trade straight away is not top of there agenda.Their will be another crowdsale this year so even if no exchange ever quotes it I am still only tied in a matter of months at the most.(Sorry please excuse my english) Actually want it to convert to B shares myself