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Craig Wright je objavio da je on Bitcoin kreator Satoshi Nakamoto. Šta mislite vi? Istina? Iznenadjenje? Link orginalnom BBC članku: Craig Wright revealed as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto
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Nebi mu bio u cipelama....ima koliko ono ... milju BTC-a? Pas mater...nadam se da nebude sa ovom objavom navuko krivu ekipu na vlastita vrata....
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May 02, 2016, 08:59:14 AM |
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Nebi mu bio u cipelama....ima koliko ono ... milju BTC-a? Pas mater...nadam se da nebude sa ovom objavom navuko krivu ekipu na vlastita vrata....
Da, u članku to (1M BTC) isto piše. Ali takodje piše da ni on nije sretan sa objavom, nego da je "prisiljen"... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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May 02, 2016, 09:10:17 AM |
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Neznam..sve mi to poprilicno smrdi. Novinari su pustili masti na volju. Jos nigdje nitko nije postavio nikakav dokaz, iako je vrlo lagano dokazati cijelu stvar. Neka samo potpise nesto za sto se zna da je Satoshievo i amen.
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[...] this is 100% fake. This sort of irresponsible "journalism" is just embarrassing... I mean, they were already fooled once by Wright's obvious fakery. Što se mene tiće: sve rećeno... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Lik nije Satoshi 100%
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May 02, 2016, 12:56:02 PM |
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Koje su to igre i igrice....pretpostavljam da im je cilj bio netko/nesto van BTC zajednice, jer sumnjdam da su toliko glupi da su mislili da ce uvjeriti BTC zajednicu u ovakvu laž bez trunke dokaza.
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May 02, 2016, 01:05:08 PM |
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Lik nije Satoshi 100% 100% se slazem. Ces zaista scena.ba da usporedjujes sa BBC-om... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Lik nije Satoshi 100% 100% se slazem. Ces zaista scena.ba da usporedjujes sa BBC-om... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) To je sa razlogom odabrano, a zove se sarkazam. Nisam mislio da ti nećeš skužiti, razočarao si me, očekivao sam više od tebe. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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[...]Ces zaista scena.ba da usporedjujes sa BBC-om... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) To je sa razlogom odabrano, a zove se sarkazam. Nisam mislio da ti nećeš skužiti, razočarao si me, očekivao sam više od tebe. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Eh, a ja se nadao da ces sada da spustis BBC tamo gdje im je mjesto! Ko je sad razocaran...? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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May 02, 2016, 02:49:26 PM |
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[...]Ces zaista scena.ba da usporedjujes sa BBC-om... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) To je sa razlogom odabrano, a zove se sarkazam. Nisam mislio da ti nećeš skužiti, razočarao si me, očekivao sam više od tebe. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Eh, a ja se nadao da ces sada da spustis BBC tamo gdje im je mjesto! Ko je sad razocaran...? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Haha dobar si, točno to. Vidim da se razumijemo, svaka čast. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Nije ovo ni prvi ni zadnji lik koji će se proglasiti Satoshijem ili će ga novinari, gladni senzacija, proglasiti Satoshijem. Pravi Satoshi je odabrao anonimnost i mir i to trebamo poštovati te biti zahvalni na onome što nam je dao. Na ovakve se novinarske ''patke'' ne treba osvrtati i gubiti vrijeme.
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Nije ovo ni prvi ni zadnji lik koji će se proglasiti Satoshijem ili će ga novinari, gladni senzacija, proglasiti Satoshijem. Pravi Satoshi je odabrao anonimnost i mir i to trebamo poštovati te biti zahvalni na onome što nam je dao. Na ovakve se novinarske ''patke'' ne treba osvrtati i gubiti vrijeme. Da, ali ovo jeste prvi put da takozvane "renomirane" medije (BBC, CNN, Economist, NOS [u Nizozemskoj] itd. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) @Angell) ovo proglasavaju kao "istinu" i gutaju lazne dokaze kao istinu. Ove se lajkovima momentalno prezentira kao "istina", i to naveliko... To vec jeste razlika.
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Meni je ovo dosta neuvjerljivo, makar tvrdi da ima dokaze, ključeve i to. Taj lik se pojavio "iz neba pa u rebra" i još je Australac (ne da imam neke predrasude, ali nekako mi se ne uklapa u profil). Opet, sve je moguće.
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Meni je ovo dosta neuvjerljivo [...] [...] this is 100% fake. This sort of irresponsible "journalism" is just embarrassing... I mean, they were already fooled once by Wright's obvious fakery. 100% sigurno NIJE Satoshi Nakamoto. Ako Theymos (kome je Satoshi osobno predao ovaj forum u potpunom poverenju) kaze da nije, onda nije... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) [...] makar tvrdi da ima dokaze, ključeve i to. [...] To i jeste ceo "problem"; ako to tvrdis puno je jednostavnije staviti post "Ja sam taj-i-taj" potpisanim sa encrypted key od Satoschia. A ne ovaj ceo cirkus u medijama... Medije bi onda skocile i tako i onako (nakon posta)... [...] Taj lik se pojavio "iz neba pa u rebra" i još je Australac (ne da imam neke predrasude, ali nekako mi se ne uklapa u profil). Opet, sve je moguće. Kao sto i Theymos vec kaze, nije "iz neba pa u rebra" nege je vec prije (u 12. 2015.) tvrdio da je Satoshi Nakamoto pa ga nitko nije uzimao za punim. Ovaj put se jednostavno bolje pripremio na te medije...
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Pored toga I Andreas M. Antonopoulos je bio kontaktiran da "potvrdi" Satoshi Nakamotov identitet. Njegova reakcija sve kaze: About two weeks ago I was contacted and asked to offer security advice for a project. I was asked to sign an NDA in order to discuss the project itself, something I am reluctant to do, in general. Once I received the NDA however, it became obvious that the project was related to verifying the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. I immediately declined the offer, declined to participate and declined to sign the NDA. I'm sure many people will think I was wrong to decline the "opportunity" to verify SN's identity. From my perspective, the request for me to verify his/her/their identity is in itself an appeal to authority. It is replacing public cryptographic proof with endorsement by a third party. If SN wants to "prove" their identity, they don't need an "authority" to do so. They can do it in a public, open manner. To ask people in the space who have a reputation to stake that reputation and vouch for SN's identity raises many red flags in my mind. I don't know if Craig Wright is SN. I don't care and I don't want to know. As I have expressed many times in the past, I think the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto does not matter. More importantly I think it serves to distract from the fact that bitcoin is not controlled by anyone and is not a system of Appeal-to-Authority. Identifying the creator only serves to feed the appeal-to-authority crowd, as if SN is some kind of infallible prophet, or has any say over bitcoin's future. Identity and authority are distractions from a system of mathematical proof that does not require trust. This is not a telenovela. Bitcoin is a neutral framework of trust that can bring financial empowerment to billions of people. It works because it doesn't depend on any authority. Not even Satoshi's. Back to work.
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Ne znam zasto bi itko pomislio da bi CW mogao biti Satoshi. Zanemariti cemo razlike izmedu karaktera (nacin izrazavanja, ponasanja, uvjerenja itd), te razmotrimo sta se sve odvijalo: 1) Prvotno CW tvrdi da je navodno Satoshi, te je dao neki par PGP kljuceva kao dokaz. Naravno ispostavilo se da su backdated te da je pokusaj prevare u pitanju. 2) CW opet je istaknuo da je Satoshi te daje "signature" od block-a broj 9. Ispotavilo se da to nije nikakav potpis, nego javna TX (kodirana u base 64). 3) Gavin podrzava pricu CW iako nema nikakvog (javnog) dokaza, i naravno "dokazao" mu je to tako sto je donesen "novi laptop", "cist usb stick", unutar hotel-a koristeci Wifi najvjerovatnije ( ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ).
Sada ovdje ima jos mnogo toga za spomenuti: A. Antonopolous je izjavio da je dobio prije par tjedana ponudu za "indentificiranje" osobe 'Satoshi' te bi morao potpisati NDA za to (naravno da je to odbio). Moguce je mnogo toga (ali se svodi sve na spekulacije zasada), ili je ovo vrsta nekog 'korporacijskog' plana da se 'rani' Bitcoin (neki Mediji su odmah skocili za ovim), te su Gavin && Matonis kupljeni (i dio ponude sto je A.A. dobio), ili je stvarno uspio prevariti Gavina uzivo (itd.). Takoder, onaj blog-post sto je CW napisao je ukraden: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fo1xtv2l.png&t=665&c=13epQRDeyJBj-Q)
Mislim da sam dovoljno toga rekao da svatko utvrdi da je prica zalosna.
Update: " There was no download of a signature file of electrum (.asc file) from a UK IP on Apr 7th."
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May 02, 2016, 08:43:25 PM |
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I kandidat za predsjednika u Americi je putovao kroz vrijeme. Cijeli BBC se napušio marice i privlače pažnju sa ovakvim glupostima.
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Cinjenica da su prevarili BBC nije nesto, barem meni, spektakularno. Novinari se VRLO vrijetko razumiju u temu o kojoj pisu i "zavise" o izvorima informacija. Ono sto mi je nevejerojatno je da je tip mislio da ce prevariti crypto zajednicu na tako jeftinu foru.
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