Craig Wright Gavin Andresen = PLOT

[From Above]

ok so maybe u have seen it or not http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863
all public news channels suddenly claim Craig Wright is satoshi nakamoto 100%, cuz he signed messages.
NO WHERE ON THE INTERNETZ can we find those signed messages.

I call utter BS.
also gavin andresen confirmed and backed that craig wright 100% is satoshi nakamoto.

so this is very obviously a plot.

do u think the NSA is behind it? no? what is behind it ?
whos behind this and why, what r they hoping for, the nifty boys/gals.

also craig wright and gavin andresen just lost all of their credibility forever

~CfA~

[franky1]

the message he released was:
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=


what are you missing?.. well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hflr3/craig_wrights_signature_is_worthless/

here it is explained better

Find first transaction by Satoshi in 2009 :
https://blockchain.info/tx/828ef3b079f9c23829c56fe86e85b4a69d9e06e5b54ea597eef5fb3ffef509fe?show_adv=true

Convert inputscript from hex:
3045022100c12a7d54972f26d14cb311339b5122f8c187417dde1e8efb6841f55c34220ae002206 6632c5cd4161efa3a2837764eee9eb84975dd54c2de2865e9752585c53e7cce

to base64
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=

(thats it, you done pretty much the only thing that craig done (remember no private key was used with what u just done. nor SHA, nor ECDSA)

this is a 7 year old signature of the transaction encrypted using the private key for: 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S 7 years ago
emphasis: the data is the transaction data(not a personal message).. that is 7 years old!! and publicly available

if he was to sign a message today! the signature, even when signed with the same private key would be completely different
emphasis: signing "my name is bob" would result in a different signature than "My Name Is Bob" even when both messages are signed with the same private key.

so if you see him display:
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=

he is not signing anything new. he is just literally copying and pasting a 7 year old message(tx) that was signed 7years ago

[NyeFe]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

[franky1]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

[From Above]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

he got extremely greedy, wanted more power, so he wanted to divide Bitcoin but failed hard

yes hes an outlaw just like crack wright - its the truth indeed.  hes still better than crack tho cuz crack is JUST a liar, gavin is also a dev

~CfA~

[NyeFe]

So to summarise, Wright's evidence is worthless, Gavin's statement is also worthless, and the only tangible evidence to believe (this is not a joke) is a written prove from the BBC — I'm going back to bed.

[Wendigo]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

But I have read people on here saying that Gavin was a very early adopter so he should have saved a lot of coins and money was not the problem here. Perhaps his motives were purely based on desire for more power and the ability to influence the Bitcoin core development as he wishes. Is it money or power or is it something else?

[chopstick]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

No, not paid off, but possibly genuinely fooled by someone who's a good actor.

None of us have seen the proof that was shown in person to gavin/matonis/ the economist. Therefore, I do not think we should jump to conclusions just yet.

We'll know more in the coming weeks.

[jyakulis]

Ooo this is so juicy.

[Gleb Gamow]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

But I have read people on here saying that Gavin was a very early adopter so he should have saved a lot of coins and money was not the problem here. Perhaps his motives were purely based on desire for more power and the ability to influence the Bitcoin core development as he wishes. Is it money or power or is it something else?

Gavin's on record in stating that he has enough coins to retire, expressed during the heated debated of if he should be paid via TBF for his coding service, later revealed he earned over a quarter of a million dollars for his efforts then headed on over to MIT to get paid for his bitcoin related services over there.

[franky1]

No, not paid off, but possibly genuinely fooled by someone who's a good actor.

None of us have seen the proof that was shown in person to gavin/matonis/ the economist. Therefore, I do not think we should jump to conclusions just yet.

We'll know more in the coming weeks.

you think that gavin would sign a NDA, buy a plane ticket, book a hotel room... for curiosity sake??

[chopstick]

No, not paid off, but possibly genuinely fooled by someone who's a good actor.

None of us have seen the proof that was shown in person to gavin/matonis/ the economist. Therefore, I do not think we should jump to conclusions just yet.

We'll know more in the coming weeks.

you think that gavin would sign a NDA, buy a plane ticket, book a hotel room... for curiosity sake??

In Gavin's own words, he had email conversations with Craig that led him to believe there was a very good chance he might be talking to the real satoshi. This was before he bought the plane ticket.

Coming from someone who spoke extensively with satoshi throughout 2010/2011.

So yes, I'd say there's a very good chance his curiosity got the better of him.

I mean, who wouldn't want to meet the real satoshi if they thought there was a good chance it's actually him?

[Quantus]

On Dec 8, 2015 Craig wright was publicly outed as a hoaxer/scammer, 'Gavin-Bloatcoin-Andresen' has ether gone full retard or is colluding with Wright but for what I couldn't say.

[chopstick]

Can you provide a link for that, quantus?

[IluhaHA]

lol everyone on this subject is so crazy the bitcoin price is droping though and that worrys me

[crazywack]

Gavin lost all his credibility long ago, Craig write has atleast 1 scam accusation that I have seen.

Looks like (as someone else said) a false second coming of the messiah.

I don't belive Craig is Satoshi. He disappeared for a reason so why come out now, with no proff to boot. Nice try but put up or shut up, move some coins or gtfo.

[ATguy]

In Gavin's own words, he had email conversations with Craig that led him to believe there was a very good chance he might be talking to the real satoshi. This was before he bought the plane ticket.

Coming from someone who spoke extensively with satoshi throughout 2010/2011.

So yes, I'd say there's a very good chance his curiosity got the better of him.

I mean, who wouldn't want to meet the real satoshi if they thought there was a good chance it's actually him?

Well hopefully a cryptography proof is given as well, because to trick someone socially with just conversation is much much easier. I would be curious as well if someone shared what only Satoshi an I could know, but still, a signed message is worth much much more.

Hopefully this can be sorted out soon.

[monsanto]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

But I have read people on here saying that Gavin was a very early adopter so he should have saved a lot of coins and money was not the problem here. Perhaps his motives were purely based on desire for more power and the ability to influence the Bitcoin core development as he wishes. Is it money or power or is it something else?

Gavin's on record in stating that he has enough coins to retire, expressed during the heated debated of if he should be paid via TBF for his coding service, later revealed he earned over a quarter of a million dollars for his efforts then headed on over to MIT to get paid for his bitcoin related services over there.

I'll just throw this crazy idea out there: what if Gavin is Satoshi and he is using Wright as cover because he wants to be able to sell some of his btc stash.  If Gavin was Satoshi, he might want to sell some of his coins without admitting he was Satoshi, and without creating a market panic.  So he hears about this crazy Wright guy, who for whatever reason wants to claim he is Satoshi.  He realizes if he backs up Wright's story, that when he (Gavin) sells some btc from Satoshi's stash, Wright will be forced to explain it (even though Wright has nothing to do with the sale) giving Gavin the perfect cover and creating helpful confusion. 

[intec]

Faketoshi ( let's turn it mainstream so media understands)

[Cryddit]

I mean, who wouldn't want to meet the real satoshi if they thought there was a good chance it's actually him?

Me.  I wouldn't.  

The "Real" Satoshi has no reason to claim that identity.  None.  He absolutely knows why he was using a pseudonym in the first place, and he knows it's too valuable to destroy.  Steve Wright is in no way prepared for the shit storm that would happen to him if his claim were true and he were so inutterably stupid as to provide actual proof of it.