Craig Wright Gavin Andresen = PLOT

[AGD]

Simple:

1. Bradley Manning came out with these brutal helicopter videos and Wikileaks published them
2. USG tried desperately to dry out Wikileaks by closing their Paypal account which was used for donations
3. Wikileaks decided to accept Bitcoin instead
4. USG first heard about Bitcoin and was pretty angry about this "Bitcoin thing" and how it can be worth more than a Dollar and infiltrate their power
5. They found out about the Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto and used their NSA surveillance program to find the real person responsible for this Bitcoin mess
6. CIA visited Satoshi in person and made clear, that the Dollar is here to stay and Bitcoin has to leave and they made him an offer. Satoshi refused and was terminated without revealing his private keys
7. CIA invites Gavin as being the number 2 on the list. Gavin agrees and he was flipped to take control over the Bitcoin protocol (edit: they probably have shown a picture of Satoshi after termination to convince Gavin pretty quick)
8. After various attempts to fork Bitcoin, he lost his good reputation, but he is there between a rock and a hard place

Jus my tree fiddy

[alyssa85]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

LOL. Gavin has lots of coins. He actually had so much he managed to give away 10,000 BTC via the faucet he set up back in the day to promote bitcoin (which was dispensing 1BTC a go).

[Tijl]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

But I have read people on here saying that Gavin was a very early adopter so he should have saved a lot of coins and money was not the problem here. Perhaps his motives were purely based on desire for more power and the ability to influence the Bitcoin core development as he wishes. Is it money or power or is it something else?

Gavin's on record in stating that he has enough coins to retire, expressed during the heated debated of if he should be paid via TBF for his coding service, later revealed he earned over a quarter of a million dollars for his efforts then headed on over to MIT to get paid for his bitcoin related services over there.

I'll just throw this crazy idea out there: what if Gavin is Satoshi and he is using Wright as cover because he wants to be able to sell some of his btc stash.  If Gavin was Satoshi, he might want to sell some of his coins without admitting he was Satoshi, and without creating a market panic.  So he hears about this crazy Wright guy, who for whatever reason wants to claim he is Satoshi.  He realizes if he backs up Wright's story, that when he (Gavin) sells some btc from Satoshi's stash, Wright will be forced to explain it (even though Wright has nothing to do with the sale) giving Gavin the perfect cover and creating helpful confusion. 

So I actually was trying to come up ideas about what the hell is happening and had this thought to. Wright is some mentally unstable guy, and Gavin is using this to divert attention from himself.

But am not sure it's very plausible. I mean, if he was trying to divert attention, why would he jump right in the middle of the whole thing?

[AGD]

So pathetic from Gavin... I wonder if it was for the money or if it is for the Craig messiah to backup his forks that he did that.

That's the real question from all of today's news. I can't see Gavin being so foolish to blindly accept and blog about it like some teenage fan.

My above posting explains the situation he could be in. Why care about your image when your life is on the line?

[crazywack]

So pathetic from Gavin... I wonder if it was for the money or if it is for the Craig messiah to backup his forks that he did that.

That's the real question from all of today's news. I can't see Gavin being so foolish to blindly accept and blog about it like some teenage fan.

My above posting explains the situation he could be in. Why care about your image when your life is on the line?

That's one of the deeper darker theories I have heard.

[The Arcitect]

So pathetic from Gavin... I wonder if it was for the money or if it is for the Craig messiah to backup his forks that he did that.

That's the real question from all of today's news. I can't see Gavin being so foolish to blindly accept and blog about it like some teenage fan.

My above posting explains the situation he could be in. Why care about your image when your life is on the line?

I thought it was the CIA contacted Gavin and Gavin tried to get Satoshi to meet the CIA as well and that's when Satoshi went dark. I mean I don't know if the man is still alive but I don't think he was foolish enough to meet the CIA or NSA and get killed.

Satoshi is in zero dark thirty years  

[TierNolan]

he got extremely greedy, wanted more power, so he wanted to divide Bitcoin but failed hard

Arguably, he made a bad strategic decision to give up the lead developer role.  If he was still lead dev, he could decide core's priorities between big blocks and seg witness.

This looks pretty bad for his credibility though.

[NyeFe]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

LOL. Gavin has lots of coins. He actually had so much he managed to give away 10,000 BTC via the faucet he set up back in the day to promote bitcoin (which was dispensing 1BTC a go).

Could you prove this, that's too simple.  "back in the day" Bitcoin was unrecognized, and worthless, give us the address these transactions were sent from, proving it's Gavins, so we can evaluate the price per btc at that time period, and reevaluate the worth of the address (at least what is left in it)  at this time period?

"Back in the day" a group of kids purchased pizza worth about £3.00 for 10,000k btc. I'm really trying hard to see your point.

[Cryddit]

"What is too terrible to be spoken, must be wept.
 What is too terrible to weep, can only be laughed."

[gmaxwell]

Arguably, he made a bad strategic decision to give up the lead developer role.  If he was still lead dev, he could decide core's priorities between big blocks and seg witness.

No he couldn't-- the comment betrays a misunderstanding of how Bitcoin and open source development works.  "Lead dev" is not a position of authority, and if he wanted to push in a direction the contributors didn't agree with, he'd find himself where he is now, regardless of what happened there...

[TooDumbForBitcoin]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

But I have read people on here saying that Gavin was a very early adopter so he should have saved a lot of coins and money was not the problem here. Perhaps his motives were purely based on desire for more power and the ability to influence the Bitcoin core development as he wishes. Is it money or power or is it something else?

Gavin's on record in stating that he has enough coins to retire, expressed during the heated debated of if he should be paid via TBF for his coding service, later revealed he earned over a quarter of a million dollars for his efforts then headed on over to MIT to get paid for his bitcoin related services over there.

I'll just throw this crazy idea out there: what if Gavin is Satoshi and he is using Wright as cover because he wants to be able to sell some of his btc stash.  If Gavin was Satoshi, he might want to sell some of his coins without admitting he was Satoshi, and without creating a market panic.  So he hears about this crazy Wright guy, who for whatever reason wants to claim he is Satoshi.  He realizes if he backs up Wright's story, that when he (Gavin) sells some btc from Satoshi's stash, Wright will be forced to explain it (even though Wright has nothing to do with the sale) giving Gavin the perfect cover and creating helpful confusion. 

Not 0%

[TooDumbForBitcoin]

Simple:

1. Bradley Manning came out with these brutal helicopter videos and Wikileaks published them
2. USG tried desperately to dry out Wikileaks by closing their Paypal account which was used for donations
3. Wikileaks decided to accept Bitcoin instead
4. USG first heard about Bitcoin and was pretty angry about this "Bitcoin thing" and how it can be worth more than a Dollar and infiltrate their power
5. They found out about the Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto and used their NSA surveillance program to find the real person responsible for this Bitcoin mess
6. CIA visited Satoshi in person and made clear, that the Dollar is here to stay and Bitcoin has to leave and they made him an offer. Satoshi refused and was terminated without revealing his private keys
7. CIA invites Gavin as being the number 2 on the list. Gavin agrees and he was flipped to take control over the Bitcoin protocol (edit: they probably have shown a picture of Satoshi after termination to convince Gavin pretty quick)
8. After various attempts to fork Bitcoin, he lost his good reputation, but he is there between a rock and a hard place

Jus my tree fiddy

tree fiddy satoshi

[alani123]

The news caused some pretty significant price drop, a drop which would have been bigger if what was broadcasted was true but most news outlets still went ahead and published their reports with no substantial fact checking. Craig knew that many major news outlets were gullible and perhaps that's why he contacted several. Whoever knew about this in advance could have benefited by sorting bitcoin or being ready to buy in after the drop for same-day profits. You should also consider that Gavin has most probably signed an NDA as Andreas was asked to do (and declined) in order to verify Satoshi's identity. If Gavin was gullible enough to do that in the first place, it's likely that he's not allowed to disclose that he was lied to. The rest of Gavin's comments are just attempts to not worsen his public image.

[Bit_Happy]

Simple:

1. Bradley Manning came out with these brutal helicopter videos and Wikileaks published them
2. USG tried desperately to dry out Wikileaks by closing their Paypal account which was used for donations
3. Wikileaks decided to accept Bitcoin instead
4. USG first heard about Bitcoin and was pretty angry about this "Bitcoin thing" and how it can be worth more than a Dollar and infiltrate their power
5. They found out about the Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto and used their NSA surveillance program to find the real person responsible for this Bitcoin mess
6. CIA visited Satoshi in person and made clear, that the Dollar is here to stay and Bitcoin has to leave and they made him an offer. Satoshi refused and was terminated without revealing his private keys
7. CIA invites Gavin as being the number 2 on the list. Gavin agrees and he was flipped to take control over the Bitcoin protocol (edit: they probably have shown a picture of Satoshi after termination to convince Gavin pretty quick)
8. After various attempts to fork Bitcoin, he lost his good reputation, but he is there between a rock and a hard place

Jus my tree fiddy

That's worth "tree fiddy" and a Big Wow.
Sorry to hear the real Satoshi could have been murdered by the CIA/NSA, but your story is possible.


























...but he is there between a rock and a hard place.

[QuestionAuthority]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

easily paid off to say what is needed

LOL. Gavin has lots of coins. He actually had so much he managed to give away 10,000 BTC via the faucet he set up back in the day to promote bitcoin (which was dispensing 1BTC a go).

Yeah, it was pretty sweet. I still got more than 20 of Gavin's coins. I guess gavy baby never really thought Bitcoin would amount to much or he wouldn't have been so reckless. I've never really understood why anyone cares who made Bitcoin. I don't know the person that made my microwave but that's not going to stop me from using it or understanding that it works.

[albert11]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

He sold his soul to the devil, like rihanna and beyonce

[AGD]

Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin,  this guy was a worshipped God, now,  he's an outlaw??

He sold his soul to the devil, like rihanna and beyonce

Wouldn't you do the same if you had a barrel of a gun in your mouth?

[AGD]

I somewhere read this idea of Gavin started to be inconsistent as a cry for help or to send a secret message to community. This idea is not so bad, not so bad indeed.

If you had two guys conspiring to do something illegal and one of them got busted by the police and flipped to catch the other one. How could he warn his buddy, knowing that the police will hear every word and read every line? Right, he could tell inconsistent stuff - not too much to catch attention, but enough to send a secret warning. This would bring in a new and interesting meta level.

[Cryddit]

Hogwash. 

A.  Gavin has no idea who the original Satoshi is and couldn't have flipped him.

B.  Satoshi knows Gavin has no idea who Satoshi is and has no fear of being flipped.

C.  Gavin has no leverage over Satoshi and couldn't get him to do shit if he didn't want to.

E.  Satoshi's Opsec was flawless, but one flaw is all it takes.  It is very difficult to maintain flawless opsec, and very dangerous to risk further action or communication which might break it, especially now when the situation is under much more intense scrutiny than ever before.  Satoshi has no compelling reason to take that risk.  No message Gavin could possibly send would result in Satoshi's risking his opsec to become vulnerable.

D.  Getting to Gavin is therefore completely useless to Los Federales if their goal is getting to Satoshi.

[Karartma1]

the message he released was:
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=


what are you missing?.. well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hflr3/craig_wrights_signature_is_worthless/

here it is explained better

Find first transaction by Satoshi in 2009 :
https://blockchain.info/tx/828ef3b079f9c23829c56fe86e85b4a69d9e06e5b54ea597eef5fb3ffef509fe?show_adv=true

Convert inputscript from hex:
3045022100c12a7d54972f26d14cb311339b5122f8c187417dde1e8efb6841f55c34220ae002206 6632c5cd4161efa3a2837764eee9eb84975dd54c2de2865e9752585c53e7cce

to base64
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=

(thats it, you done pretty much the only thing that craig done (remember no private key was used with what u just done. nor SHA, nor ECDSA)

this is a 7 year old signature of the transaction encrypted using the private key for: 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S 7 years ago
emphasis: the data is the transaction data(not a personal message).. that is 7 years old!! and publicly available

if he was to sign a message today! the signature, even when signed with the same private key would be completely different
emphasis: signing "my name is bob" would result in a different signature than "My Name Is Bob" even when both messages are signed with the same private key.

so if you see him display:
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=

he is not signing anything new. he is just literally copying and pasting a 7 year old message(tx) that was signed 7years ago

Good. This was the only thing I needed to cut off all these bullshit around this new story. My question is always why now and why this way?
That is not clear to me right now. Thanks anyway