Craig & Satoshi. A sly attempt to get gavin's will done.

[spazzdla]

Craig gets public to believe he is Satoshi,

"Satoshi" backs Gavin's Ideas getting them into the block chain.

[RealBitcoin]

Could this be another attempt to sabotage bitcoin?

Was this done by the bitcoin classic people? I dont like the amount of lies and hoaxes that come into bitcoin and attempt to sabotage the reputation of it.

Bunch of liars and scammers...

[Capitascism]

It is interesting how people react so fast with sell orders. Why people investing in bitcoin if they are not sure what they are doing and every lilly shitty tweet can disturb their business decisions? But i will buy again..Thanks for stupidity.

[Lauda]

There are several theories as why Gavin has made that statement:
1) He's delusional.
2) He has been hacked.
3) Craig supports big blocks.
He already lost commit access due to confirming a false story, i.e. helping Craig manipulate the population.

[alyssa85]

It is interesting how people react so fast with sell orders. Why people investing in bitcoin if they are not sure what they are doing and every lilly shitty tweet can disturb their business decisions? But i will buy again..Thanks for stupidity.

Traders want to protect themselves first and foremost. Bad news always gets sold, and they can always buy back later if necessary. Whereas being a hero and hodling can be expensive.

[RealBitcoin]

There are several theories as why Gavin has made that statement:
1) He's delusional.
2) He has been hacked.
3) Craig supports big blocks.
He already lost commit access due to confirming a false story, i.e. helping Craig manipulate the population.

Also there is a manipulation campaign going on right now as we speak.

I have observed many sockpuppet accounts in the Speculator board and now in the Bitcoin Discussion board as well.

Tons of sockpuppet newbie accounts popping up and saying things like "Hahaha bitcoin ponzi scheme is just about to collapse"

Also its very strange that just now that this FUD story is out, the sockpuppets have multiplied.

It might very well be a pump and dump scam going on as, as the price just dropped a little bit as a result.

I`m not sure if Gavin or Craig is complicit in this pump and dump, but you being a moderator might want to warn the other moderators too and want to be very sharp on this, because it looks too orchestrated to be just a simple coincidence.

[DimensionZ]

Is it possible that Gavin Andresen has been paid off to confirm a fake story? Or an even crazier idea - what if Gavin and Craig devised this fake stunt story together and Craig volunteered to be the public face of the Satoshi impostor and help Gavin propose new Bitcoin core design decisions? I think there is a whole lot more than meets the eye in this.

[Quartx]

To me Craig and Gavin are both utter bullshits... The so called blog post craig wrote isn't prov of being satoshi at all, just telling non savvy it users how signature works.. The easiest way to prove he is satoshi is by moving the freaking coins, be it the whole block 1 to 9 or just 0.000001. He mentioned that it is held by a trust so not touchable. Just move to another address held by the same trust would prove the same too. As long as the coins are moved it is good proof.

[Carlton Banks]

He already lost commit access due to confirming a false story, i.e. helping Craig manipulate the population.

And bear in mind that the media outlets who supplied the blanket coverage for this latest story deserve some blame for the manipulation, as they all have their regular name-checked experts, Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn, to check Craig's working. And apparently not one of these numerous "reputable" media outlets could find someone reliable, including the Hearndresen ameobi? Seems kinda ridiculous after the way in which the implausibility of Wright's claims were previously dismissed (and which the same kind of media outlets also reported on)

[LiteCoinGuy]

There are several theories as why Gavin has made that statement:
1) He's delusional.
2) He has been hacked.
3) Craig supports big blocks.
He already lost commit access due to confirming a false story, i.e. helping Craig manipulate the population.

hopefully he will say something in the next 48 hours.

[Lauda]

Tons of sockpuppet newbie accounts popping up and saying things like "Hahaha bitcoin ponzi scheme is just about to collapse"

Actually, I have already come to a conclusion that this is organized. Even though I can't attain any evidence (who knows who is behind the spambot), I do nuke a lot of them regularily. I wanted to keep quiet, but since you have already mentioned it, I might fill in. Not long ago the pattern (for a short amount of time) was something about "new coins coming to market and dump-ing" (I can't recall exact phrase); now the spammer is stating that "Craig will dump and crash the market". This is definitely not a coincidence (as it tends to happen with other negative news as well).

And bear in mind that the media outlets who supplied the blanket coverage for this latest story deserve some blame for the manipulation, as they all have their regular name-checked experts, Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn, to check Craig's working.

It is quite rare that some news-site or blog remains skeptical about this (IIRC the CNN article about it questions the claim rather than spreading the false information further).

hopefully he will say something in the next 48 hours.

That is too long.

[alyssa85]

Is it possible that Gavin Andresen has been paid off to confirm a fake story?

No. He was such an early bitcoiner that he has loads of coins and doesn't need to be paid off. He also invented the faucet and gave away thousands of bitcoins in the early days. Gavin doesn't need the money.

[Slark]

Is it possible that Gavin Andresen has been paid off to confirm a fake story?

No. He was such an early bitcoiner that he has loads of coins and doesn't need to be paid off. He also invented the faucet and gave away thousands of bitcoins in the early days. Gavin doesn't need the money.

Some people are not doing things for money. They do it to ensure their dominant position and force their point of view - and I think Gavin is like that.

[practicaldreamer]

There are several theories as why Gavin has made that statement:
1) He's delusional.
2) He has been hacked.
3) Craig supports big blocks.

4) he has been made a party to proofs that the wider public hasn't (hasn't because Craig Wright would really prefer for you to remain sceptical about his provenance)

[pogress]

Tons of sockpuppet newbie accounts popping up and saying things like "Hahaha bitcoin ponzi scheme is just about to collapse"

Also its very strange that just now that this FUD story is out, the sockpuppets have multiplied.

Always good indicator its really right time to buy more Bitcoins on such dips.


Anyway, are there any facts Gavin confirmed Craig Wright is Satoshi except these conditions which have not met at all (especially signing earliest coinbase Bitcoin address from block 0), or this thread is just typical anti Gavin FUD thread on bitcointalk from blockstreamers?

I’d want to see:
A message signed with the same PGP key Satoshi used back in 2010. (…but his computer could have been hacked)
A message signed with keys from early Bitcoin blocks (…but his wallet could have been stolen).
Email or private forum posts he sent to me in 2010 (… but email could have been hacked).
A conversation about technical stuff, ideally via email, so I can see if it feels like the same person I communicated with in 2010.  

[RodeoX]

Or just that Gavin thinks it is Satoshi. Of course he does not know either, but someone is.
All that has to happen is for Craig to cryptographically sign something the right way.

[yayayo]

I was thinking the same the very second I read that Gavin got an exclusive private verification session. While we still have to wait for the final result of the current drama, I'm pretty sure that Gavin is finally done as a leading developer of Bitcoin Core. And that is good news for all of us: No more bootlicking attempts with the establishment, no more attacks on decentralization.

The price will now tank a bit, but in the long term this is great and will lead to a better atmosphere in the development community.

ya.ya.yo!

[SebastianJu]

Tons of sockpuppet newbie accounts popping up and saying things like "Hahaha bitcoin ponzi scheme is just about to collapse"

Actually, I have already come to a conclusion that this is organized. Even though I can't attain any evidence (who knows who is behind the spambot), I do nuke a lot of them regularily. I wanted to keep quiet, but since you have already mentioned it, I might fill in. Not long ago the pattern (for a short amount of time) was something about "new coins coming to market and dump-ing" (I can't recall exact phrase); now the spammer is stating that "Craig will dump and crash the market". This is definitely not a coincidence (as it tends to happen with other negative news as well).

It probably is planned, otherwise Gavin was tricked or that person is really satoshi.

But I don't think it was planned by traders. I think there are a couple of people that try to manipulate the price the way you described. But they usually jump on any event. That's probably why they are so active now.

[btcusury]

Isn't it kinda nice to see Gavin self-destruct?

Is there anyone who still thinks we aren't witnessing coordinated covert attacks against Bitcoin?

[Kprawn]

I personally think he {Gavin} just got fooled by Craig, and now he turns this around by saying his account was hacked. There is no doubt in my mind that there are something bigger going on in the

background, but I cannot see Gavin being stupid enough to be part of that... He might just have made a mistake, and feels to sheepish to acknowledge that in public. I also say some stupid things,

when I had a few rounds at my local Pub... like now.