Bitcoin to End Government and Change the World

[Ultrafinery]

But financial institutions and banks are now creating their own blockchains so I guess government wont end.

I guess the end of governments is every person's individual matter. I choose not to be governed and thus to me governments no longer exist. If enough people did it, that would become a cold hard reality.

really? Who collects your bins, provides your local police force, paves the streets and runs any streetlamps? Or who pays the people who do those things?

You are governed whether you delude yourself into thinking otherwise or not.

Wait...you don't pay for your garbage service?

What happens when you have a problem with your service? You can't just change garbage collection companies?

I don't (directly) pay for my garbage service. Zero choice re. who collects it, also had zero problems. I also currently have no choice re. my water, sewage, and power providers. Everything seems to be working OK tho.

[meh32123]

But financial institutions and banks are now creating their own blockchains so I guess government wont end.

I guess the end of governments is every person's individual matter. I choose not to be governed and thus to me governments no longer exist. If enough people did it, that would become a cold hard reality.

really? Who collects your bins, provides your local police force, paves the streets and runs any streetlamps? Or who pays the people who do those things?

You are governed whether you delude yourself into thinking otherwise or not.

Wait...you don't pay for your garbage service?

What happens when you have a problem with your service? You can't just change garbage collection companies?

I don't (directly) pay for my garbage service. Zero choice re. who collects it, also had zero problems. I also currently have no choice re. my water, sewage, and power providers. Everything seems to be working OK tho.

If something fails, you can probably fill out a form, which you can drop in a box, and then the form will go to a desk. Thats it I think

[Yakamoto]

The issue that I've always had with these videos is that they say "They're creating a one world government for 'X' and this is 'X'" and other conspiracies abound within this shell.

Simply put, they have 0 reasons to make a world government. The top of the top would only meet resistance if they tried to form a single world government, an action that would be seen by many around the world as a power grab or other dubious action, and would likely see decreased revenue because of this. If the top opt to rather keep the status quo, they can make assloads of money without resistance, aside from what we see now.

[Hyena]

The issue that I've always had with these videos is that they say "They're creating a one world government for 'X' and this is 'X'" and other conspiracies abound within this shell.

Simply put, they have 0 reasons to make a world government. The top of the top would only meet resistance if they tried to form a single world government, an action that would be seen by many around the world as a power grab or other dubious action, and would likely see decreased revenue because of this. If the top opt to rather keep the status quo, they can make assloads of money without resistance, aside from what we see now.

it's not about money. but you have been brainwashed very well by them as you clearly think money is the number one thing everyone should be after

[erikalui]

Government is now becoming a joke. They have increased taxes to an extent that the bills have become lesser than the tax charged and it does need to end but it will never end. Government is just a name behind people who control the economy and charge people for things they don't even get. I feel there will come a time when banks will create their own crypto currency instead and kill bitcoins.

[Yakamoto]

The issue that I've always had with these videos is that they say "They're creating a one world government for 'X' and this is 'X'" and other conspiracies abound within this shell.

Simply put, they have 0 reasons to make a world government. The top of the top would only meet resistance if they tried to form a single world government, an action that would be seen by many around the world as a power grab or other dubious action, and would likely see decreased revenue because of this. If the top opt to rather keep the status quo, they can make assloads of money without resistance, aside from what we see now.

it's not about money. but you have been brainwashed very well by them as you clearly think money is the number one thing everyone should be after

I don't think money is something everyone should be going after, I'm just saying they're making enough that they can buy whoever and whatever they want and wouldn't need a world government because they could buy it from the shadows. A world government would make it obvious, at least with multiple countries they maintain some obscurity.

People who want money can go and get money, and it is those people who the elite buy and use them as a proxy.

I'm also not sure how a single statement means money is the one thing I think everyone should be going after, but whatever.

[Hyena]

I don't think money is something everyone should be going after, I'm just saying they're making enough that they can buy whoever and whatever they want and wouldn't need a world government because they could buy it from the shadows. A world government would make it obvious, at least with multiple countries they maintain some obscurity.

People who want money can go and get money, and it is those people who the elite buy and use them as a proxy.

I'm also not sure how a single statement means money is the one thing I think everyone should be going after, but whatever.

well that's the thing about online debates, you will be misinterpreted, a lot, on purpose. as for the money, as I said, it's not about the money, it is about establishing the Luciferian Doctrine all over the world. And no, it doesn't make any sense to me neither but who said it had to make sense?

[Elwar]

But financial institutions and banks are now creating their own blockchains so I guess government wont end.

I guess the end of governments is every person's individual matter. I choose not to be governed and thus to me governments no longer exist. If enough people did it, that would become a cold hard reality.

really? Who collects your bins, provides your local police force, paves the streets and runs any streetlamps? Or who pays the people who do those things?

You are governed whether you delude yourself into thinking otherwise or not.

Wait...you don't pay for your garbage service?

What happens when you have a problem with your service? You can't just change garbage collection companies?

I don't (directly) pay for my garbage service. Zero choice re. who collects it, also had zero problems. I also currently have no choice re. my water, sewage, and power providers. Everything seems to be working OK tho.

My garbage, water, sewage and power are all private companies.

So...the idea that by not relying on government those things go away is a failed assumption.

There are also private roads and private police forces. I even had a private fire department when I lived in Georgia. One of the highest rated fire departments in the state.

I actually did have a problem once with my garbage service. So I cancelled their service and called a new company. Meanwhile the next county over that had a public garbage service was having a big controversy over their garbage service not picking up garbage, people had to complain to the government, the unions got involved, there were protests and hearings. Idiotic.

[NeuroticFish]

My garbage, water, sewage and power are all private companies.

So...the idea that by not relying on government those things go away is a failed assumption.

There are also private roads and private police forces. I even had a private fire department when I lived in Georgia. One of the highest rated fire departments in the state.

I actually did have a problem once with my garbage service. So I cancelled their service and called a new company. Meanwhile the next county over that had a public garbage service was having a big controversy over their garbage service not picking up garbage, people had to complain to the government, the unions got involved, there were protests and hearings. Idiotic.

Private companies are fine until the point they make a monopoly.
In my country the gas prices are kinda same everywhere and whatever changes, they only go up.


Although I am 100% certain that the current way the governments are is wrong (all they care about is to get elected and steal our money), there must be some sort of government that can provide the tools to force private companies to play fair.

[Hyena]

My garbage, water, sewage and power are all private companies.

So...the idea that by not relying on government those things go away is a failed assumption.

There are also private roads and private police forces. I even had a private fire department when I lived in Georgia. One of the highest rated fire departments in the state.

I actually did have a problem once with my garbage service. So I cancelled their service and called a new company. Meanwhile the next county over that had a public garbage service was having a big controversy over their garbage service not picking up garbage, people had to complain to the government, the unions got involved, there were protests and hearings. Idiotic.

Private companies are fine until the point they make a monopoly.
In my country the gas prices are kinda same everywhere and whatever changes, they only go up.


Although I am 100% certain that the current way the governments are is wrong (all they care about is to get elected and steal our money), there must be some sort of government that can provide the tools to force private companies to play fair.

I also favour the existence of a government but a very minimalistic one indeed. Perhaps monopolies are one of the few issues the governments should take care of. And representational democracy is a failed experiment that should be thrown out the window right away. A form of weighted direct democracy would be much better. A citizen in the government would be something like a shareholder in a company.

[Elwar]

Private companies are fine until the point they make a monopoly.
In my country the gas prices are kinda same everywhere and whatever changes, they only go up.


Although I am 100% certain that the current way the governments are is wrong (all they care about is to get elected and steal our money), there must be some sort of government that can provide the tools to force private companies to play fair.

I agree. But it is usually governments that create a monopoly. Monopolies cannot exist in a free market.

When the Bell patent on the telephone expired thousands of phone companies popped up. The government ended up giving monopoly power to the Bell phone companies for local and AT&T for long distance for over 50 years (that 50 years where we had the same dial telephones). Imagine how advanced our phone technology would have been long ago had the government not given them that monopoly.

[NeuroticFish]

But it is usually governments that create a monopoly.

Very true.

Monopolies cannot exist in a free market.

I think they can. Each company has some quantity limits. If you cannot sell more, sell more expensive and discuss with the neighbor company that could be the competition to keep up the price and don't interfere with you so both will earn more with less effort.

[Hyena]

But it is usually governments that create a monopoly.

Very true.

Monopolies cannot exist in a free market.

I think they can. Each company has some quantity limits. If you cannot sell more, sell more expensive and discuss with the neighbor company that could be the competition to keep up the price and don't interfere with you so both will earn more with less effort.

The real problem is patents. Patents should not exist, at all, ever. If multiple people come to the same idea at once then patents are not at all fair, so the idea of patents is broken in its core.

[Elwar]

Look at the early days of Bitcoin exchanges.

MtGox had a virtual monopoly for a long time because they had first mover status. They thrived because they were first and benefited from it.

Small exchanges started popping up offering things that MtGox was not offering. But they still were not able to do as well as Gox. Some came and went while Gox continued on.

Then MtGox started getting shitty and people realized that they needed to start trying these other exchanges. The other exchanges, fortunately, matured as MtGox finally crashed and burned.

Imagine if MtGox had gained a patent on the "Bitcoin Exchange" process. We would have all been screwed.

[Hyena]

Imagine if MtGox had gained a patent on the "Bitcoin Exchange" process. We would have all been screwed.

And mtgox would have been bailed out by the government(s) on the expense of people because surely mtgox would have been too big to fail.

[Ultrafinery]

But financial institutions and banks are now creating their own blockchains so I guess government wont end.

I guess the end of governments is every person's individual matter. I choose not to be governed and thus to me governments no longer exist. If enough people did it, that would become a cold hard reality.

really? Who collects your bins, provides your local police force, paves the streets and runs any streetlamps? Or who pays the people who do those things?

You are governed whether you delude yourself into thinking otherwise or not.

Wait...you don't pay for your garbage service?

What happens when you have a problem with your service? You can't just change garbage collection companies?

I don't (directly) pay for my garbage service. Zero choice re. who collects it, also had zero problems. I also currently have no choice re. my water, sewage, and power providers. Everything seems to be working OK tho.

If something fails, you can probably fill out a form, which you can drop in a box, and then the form will go to a desk. Thats it I think

Probably.
Though in my entire lifetime, across all the countries I have ever lived in, nothing has ever happened to make me want to fill out that form.

[Ultrafinery]

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My garbage, water, sewage and power are all private companies.

Your water and sewage are private companies? Something smells. Where do you live/name of companies?
Unless, of course, you got a septic tank and a well.

So...the idea that by not relying on government those things go away is a failed assumption.

Has anyone ever suggested that it's metaphysically impossible to have those things without a government?
London, for instance, used to do just fine without public water and sewage ...scratch that, it did just fine just fine until Thames turned into an open sewer (because no jackboots with their environmental regulations, lol), Cholera epidemics broke out, and, after The Great Stink of 1858, people decided that maybe letting everyone poop wherever they want to -- in the street, in the Thames -- was just too much freedoms. In come city sewage.

Perhaps you might peruse a few history books? Learn how come we got them gubermint institutions and intrusive regulations we gots today? Might take some of your edge off.

There are also private roads

Yes, there are. They're called "driveways." You lay a road on your property, and it's a private road.

and private police forces.

In Somalia, yes.

I even had a private fire department when I lived in Georgia. One of the highest rated fire departments in the state.

Really? Which one is it? Link? Because every time I search for privatized fire departments, I keep getting stuff like this http://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/13/nyregion/experiment-in-private-fire-protection-fails-for-a-westchester-village.html?pagewanted=all

I actually did have a problem once with my garbage service. So I cancelled their service and called a new company. Meanwhile the next county over that had a public garbage service was having a big controversy over their garbage service not picking up garbage, people had to complain to the government, the unions got involved, there were protests and hearings. Idiotic.

Where was this again? Name of the company and the one you switched to?
I mean sure, I've lived in BVI for a bit and garbage collection was private, as was sewage (septic tanks, of a sort), and water (collect rain into a sistern below the house where the basement usually is, call water truck if you run out), as was power (one private company with bigass diesel generator/intermittent service and no competition, your own diesel generator as alternative), as were most of the roads (AFAIK, had to pay a guy with a CAT to clear/level mine after a storm).

This worked fine, but shit don't scale.  Laying multiple parallel sewer lines and building multiple sewage processing plants is simply idiotic. As is having to call a guy with a backhoe to disconnect you from TastySew sewer line and lay some pipe to hook you up to Exclusive Sewage Services every time TastySew raises its prices. Ditto for multiple water mains.
Do I really need to explain this stuff?

[maku]

Good video, definitely they are talking about some vital problems and bitcoin could be a cure for some of them for sure.
But what pains me is some comments under that video on YouTube:

david atherton1 day ago
Isn't Bitcoin OPEN SOURCE?? Are you aware of what that means?? Good work, but yikes!, I'll pass on BC.

People are still living in the dark and have no idea how bitcoin works, what open source is and why bitcoin is secure, in fact more secure that FIAT ever was.

[Hyena]

Do I really need to explain this stuff?

You think that city = country? So a problem of a particular city should be solved on the governmen level? BS. Your comparison is weak. Each city should have their own small government for dealing with such problems but there is no need for a one giant government.

[Elwar]

My sewer company is Ni Florida. http://www.niamerica.com/
Water company is Hudson Water Works. http://hudsonwaterworks.org/
Electric company is Withlacoochee River Electric Cooperative. https://www.wrec.net/
I believe the fire department I used in Georgia was Martinez Fire Dept. http://www.yellowpages.com/augusta-ga/mip/martinez-fire-dept-468251683?lid=468251683

Private police force in Detroit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqlVL26jrCA


Private highways:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_highways_in_the_United_States