General Panama Papers Discussion

[Evildrum]

Panama Papers prompt new UK tax evasion offences: top 10 concerns for professionals and corporateshttp://www.latham.london/2016/05/panama-papers-prompt-new-uk-tax-evasion-offences-top-10-concerns-for-professionals-and-corporates/
Panama Papers Fallout in Armenia

A high-profile government figure has stepped down over offshore scandal and others may follow him.
https://iwpr.net/global-voices/panama-papers-fallout-armenia

Panama Papers continued to swirl around both John Key and the Overseas Investment Office
https://atlasmonitor.wordpress.com/2016/05/04/panama-papers-continued-to-swirl-around-both-john-key-and-the-overseas-investment-office/

@DimensionZ

Revealed: Emma Watson named in latest Panama Papers leak
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/revealed-emma-watson-named-in-latest-panama-papers-leak/

I hate how this is being dragged out,some one needs to get the unredacted version out for the masses.

[vero]

what a problem with panama paper, I think there is no problem with people enrolled in panama paper because it's not a crime.

[Evildrum]

what a problem with panama paper, I think there is no problem with people enrolled in panama paper because it's not a crime.

Two opposing thoughts you got going there.
These papers point to corruption around the world, its not the legality of having a offshore tax haven, its where the money came from that a lot of these people hid for various reasons.

[countryfree]

This shows that the losers who don't have an offshore bank account are ready to do everything to ruin the successful people who have one.
Tax heavens were invented because most countries are hell! I love BTC because it will enable the middle class to afford all the advantages of a tax heaven without the high cost.

[Pab]

what a problem with panama paper, I think there is no problem with people enrolled in panama paper because it's not a crime.

For some people  no problem,information about Clintons have been hide,no available to public
corruption,money laundering etc is not problem,it s norm in modern world,so what is about

[Enotche]

what a problem with panama paper, I think there is no problem with people enrolled in panama paper because it's not a crime.

Yes, to keep their savings in offshore is not a crime, but if the money extracted in an honest way.
I'm from Russia, we have impoverished the population, a deteriorating economy, but the authorities kept getting richer and richer. And recent investigations Panamanian documents revealed corruption and illegal transactions of enrichment due to stealing of the country.
In Russia it produces a large amount of minerals, which by law belong to the people, but in fact they grabbed a bunch of thugs from the government. (1.5% of the population own 50% of national wealth).

Are allocated a lot of money on the construction, repair and upgrading of cities, and so on, but in fact none of this, do not repair anything, do not create money stolen and shipped offshore.

[mindrust]

Those papers are a joke. Nobody gives a crap about those leaked documents at all. Have the US taken action against people/companies which evade paying taxes yet? As far as i know the answer is no. The other countries in the rest of the world also don't care.

The States wants his own tax-free state, so they are trying to scare companies/people with offshore bank accounts in somewhere else.

I would've done the same btw, paying taxes is not cool. Not cool at all. You have no idea how not cool that shit is.

[Evildrum]

Those papers are a joke. Nobody gives a crap about those leaked documents at all. Have the US taken action against people/companies which evade paying taxes yet? As far as i know the answer is no. The other countries in the rest of the world also don't care.

The States wants his own tax-free state, so they are trying to scare companies/people with offshore bank accounts in somewhere else.

I would've done the same btw, paying taxes is not cool. Not cool at all. You have no idea how not cool that shit is.

You know the evidence has shown so far a lot of corruption and its just the tipping point?
The view you have on taxes should not cloud your perception of the issue painting it as a American attempt to control.

If no one gave a crap as you said we would not see such a shockwave through the world as people are forced into account or resign from their positions,you bring a very odd perspective to this discussion that really does not seem based on fact at all.
If you read this thread and the links you would know you are out to lunch.

[pereira4]

This shows that the losers who don't have an offshore bank account are ready to do everything to ruin the successful people who have one.
Tax heavens were invented because most countries are hell! I love BTC because it will enable the middle class to afford all the advantages of a tax heaven without the high cost.

The people that can't afford having a tax heavens aren't losers, they are just fucked by the system, I doubt you have enough money to get away with a tax heaven account and so do I. Most people are stuck in this loophole where you can't make enough money and if you start making you get fucked by taxes. Most people with offshore accounts are people with tons of connections that come from decades of family tradition. Then we have the big boys like Google and Apple paying next to nothing legally while the rest of people are forced to pay higher taxes. So there is to options: you either put a global tax for everyone so it's fair, or (since this is not very realistic) you use something like Bitcoin to defend against this scam against the working class or the small businessman.

Of course, you will always end up being forced to pay tax if you want to buy real state or a car or something like that anyway.

[Kprawn]

What I like about these Panama papers is this... A lot of people said, BITCOIN IS USED FOR MONEY LAUNDERING .... and now they see how legal companies and banks are being used to launder

money for the rich and influential ... The scale on which money laundering are done with Bitcoin, in comparison to other legal methods are truly pathetic... it should not even be mentioned, because

it's MUCH smaller. The media and the shills just wanted to taint Bitcoins reputation, by highlighting a small percentage of money laundering been done, and then blowing it out of proportion. 

[countryfree]

This shows that the losers who don't have an offshore bank account are ready to do everything to ruin the successful people who have one.
Tax heavens were invented because most countries are hell! I love BTC because it will enable the middle class to afford all the advantages of a tax heaven without the high cost.

The people that can't afford having a tax heavens aren't losers, they are just fucked by the system, I doubt you have enough money to get away with a tax heaven account and so do I. Most people are stuck in this loophole where you can't make enough money and if you start making you get fucked by taxes. Most people with offshore accounts are people with tons of connections that come from decades of family tradition. Then we have the big boys like Google and Apple paying next to nothing legally while the rest of people are forced to pay higher taxes. So there is to options: you either put a global tax for everyone so it's fair, or (since this is not very realistic) you use something like Bitcoin to defend against this scam against the working class or the small businessman.

Of course, you will always end up being forced to pay tax if you want to buy real state or a car or something like that anyway.

Yes, nice addition. Very often, people end as losers without having any other choice. You have to really want it to escape tax and mediocrity, but I've done it. I would have stayed in my native country, I would have ended as a loser. No doubt. But I escaped, and it doesn't cost much to open and have an offshore bank account if you're smart.