Exceptionally Large Ethereum Blockchain Size

[bathrobehero]

Somewhat Ethereum blockchain size surpasses that of Bitcoin. This will be a serious issue in the future that needs to be addressed.

Why would it be an issue? HDD storage is dirt cheap and it will be even more so with HAMR (heat-assisted magnetic recording) coming in the next few years and even SSD storage price isn't anything crazy anymore.

[64dimensions]

Dudes,

If you are mining on that PC, you could have multiple DAG files.  

On my machine the DAG containing folder has grown to 20 Gb.

I've pruned it back to 5 - 10 Gb.

how you prune it with etheruem?

Dudes,

If you are mining on that PC, you could have multiple DAG files.  

On my machine the DAG containing folder has grown to 20 Gb.

I've pruned it back to 5 - 10 Gb.

You can use Claymore's miner which eliminates the need for dag file creation as the process is done less in than 5 seconds via your GPU instead of your CPU cache and memory.

not for nvidia, clymore is only for amd

Ayers,

I just do a brute force delete of all the DAG files in the folder and rebuild.

[o00o]

Please refrain from deviating off-topic.

[rocketron]

theres something wrong there, delete the whole blockchain dir and sync with the command --fast

you should be under 12gb.

[o00o]

Here's another question which may potentially resolve my problem:how would I go about changing Mist's default blockchain directory? 

[benthach]

I came to notice that my hard drive which is dedicated to blockchains reached maximum capacity and after a little investigation, I discovered that my "blocks" folder in my Ethereum directory weighs 74.5 GB (80,050,787,860 bytes) for 840,984 Files which seems extremely odd.  There's also an "extra" & "state" folder which additionally weigh ~3.5 GB and ~13GB respectively.  Cryptominingblog created a post a few hours ago stating that Ethereum's directory is about 16 GB so this only adds to my confusion.

I invoke the following command to launch eth via a batfile [start eth -d Q:\the.MlNE\Ethereum] within Mist's subdirectories followed by Mist a few seconds later which is of the latest build.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

this is just junk wallet, imagine if you host it bloatchain, it's going to be HUGE piece of crap
yes, ethocreampie going centralized

[o00o]

I came to notice that my hard drive which is dedicated to blockchains reached maximum capacity and after a little investigation, I discovered that my "blocks" folder in my Ethereum directory weighs 74.5 GB (80,050,787,860 bytes) for 840,984 Files which seems extremely odd.  There's also an "extra" & "state" folder which additionally weigh ~3.5 GB and ~13GB respectively.  Cryptominingblog created a post a few hours ago stating that Ethereum's directory is about 16 GB so this only adds to my confusion.

I invoke the following command to launch eth via a batfile [start eth -d Q:\the.MlNE\Ethereum] within Mist's subdirectories followed by Mist a few seconds later which is of the latest build.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

this is just junk wallet, imagine if you host it bloatchain, it's going to be HUGE piece of crap
yes, ethocreampie going centralized

You're either smoking really good shlt and or using a really bad translator but then again, stupidity has no limits.

[Bemerand]

Dudes,

If you are mining on that PC, you could have multiple DAG files.  

On my machine the DAG containing folder has grown to 20 Gb.

I've pruned it back to 5 - 10 Gb.

You can use Claymore's miner which eliminates the need for dag file creation as the process is done less in than 5 seconds via your GPU instead of your CPU cache and memory.

The Ethminer forked by Gnoil with version 1.1 also use the on card generation of the DAG, there is no need for the harddrive storage.

[shadabahmed]

theres something wrong there, delete the whole blockchain dir and sync with the command --fast

you should be under 12gb.

how can i use this command --fast?

and which version of ETH i will download?

sorry for this noob question, i am totally newbie in cryptoworld

[Spoetnik]

Wow, that's already messed up in itself. But it's even crazier when you consider Ethereum's launch wasn't even 10 months ago. Dash was released over 2 years ago and its blockchain is only 1.8 GB as of this writing. Just sayin'.

Guess distributing a glorified calculator all over the world is taking its toll. Nonetheless ETH is gonna have a future on one datacenter or the other...

Math is not your strong suite huh ? ..or doing research on the "coins" you invest in  

[ETH] Ethereum = Scam posted July 23, 2014, 08:24:48 AM

and yeah yeah.. Microsoft, IBM and "Big Banks are "using" Ethereum 

..better buy buy buy moar cheap coinz nom nom nom

[bbc.reporter]

Somewhat Ethereum blockchain size surpasses that of Bitcoin. This will be a serious issue in the future that needs to be addressed.

Why would it be an issue? HDD storage is dirt cheap and it will be even more so with HAMR (heat-assisted magnetic recording) coming in the next few years and even SSD storage price isn't anything crazy anymore.

I keep hearing this kind of justification on how a bloated blockchain should not be a problem because hard drives are now cheap. But really now that hardly means that Ethereum is efficient. It has not been a long time since it went online and we see how a bloated blockchain will be a problem in 5 years time.

[Spoetnik]

Agreed ..that guys comment on HDD space stuck in my craw too.
Weak excuse !

Seems to be an anomaly for the OP here..

Even still it sounds like the chain is already getting large for the short time it's been out.
To me this is a problem for adoption.

You want average users to adopt a coin right ?
Well the larger the block-chain size the more of a problem it will be.
And i see web-wallets as a massive security issue / vulnerability and in my time in Crypto i have never used 1 once ..nor would i.

Crypto has a long way to go still to over-come barriers to adoption.

[bbc.reporter]

@Spoetnik. I also noticed that they do not have a light wallet available. Why have 3rd party developers not created one? Is it possible to create one for Ethereum?

[Spoetnik]

@Spoetnik. I also noticed that they do not have a light wallet available. Why have 3rd party developers not created one? Is it possible to create one for Ethereum?

Light ? Like Multibit for Bitcoin ?
I always loved that wallet even though having to get the Java runtime is a paid in the ass.
The concept of having most of it all hosted online except the private secure parts locally is brilliant.
A Multibit user will never have to download the whole entire block chain.

I think that is the concept you were talking about.
So yeah it would behoove the Ethereum guys to have a wallet like that.
Ends up being a combo of online hosted wallet and local wallet.. best of both worlds.

[erk]

I keep hearing this kind of justification on how a bloated blockchain should not be a problem because hard drives are now cheap. But really now that hardly means that Ethereum is efficient. It has not been a long time since it went online and we see how a bloated blockchain will be a problem in 5 years time.

How big is the ETH block chain now? Last time I looked it was well over 100GB.
That means it will pass BTC in a matter of months, whereas ETC block chain only seems to be about 1/5th. of the size of ETH.

[Whtwabbit]

How big is Eth blockhain now? trying search on google for its size with no luck, etherscan.oi has all the charts minus a blockchain growth one

[easynote]

How big is Eth blockhain now? trying search on google for its size with no luck, etherscan.oi has all the charts minus a blockchain growth one

I just know that it takes a while to download the whole thing, it feels like it takes longer than it would to download Bitcoin's Blockchain....
I'm not complaining though because there's things like Myetherwallet (unsafe wallet).