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May 11, 2016, 05:53:47 PM
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Welcome to the RollinCoin raffle. Usually a raffle ticket costs you money and you just have to hope that you are picked as the winner. This raffle is different! Instead of buying a raffle ticket all you have to do is place a minimum bet of 0.05 BTC bet on our GREEN betting line.

1st prize: 1BTC
2nd prize: 0.5BTC
3rd prize: 0.25BTC

min participants: 10

What are you waiting for? Go to http://rollincoin.com, place 1 (or more) 0.05 BTC bets on the GREEN betting line and post your tx ID here!

This raffle ends on May 25th, 23:59 GMT.

Thanks and good luck!

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May 11, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
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If you have any doubts or issues regarding this raffle . Feel free to contact me or rollincoin.com .
And Sir I think you have made a mistake , it should be
1st prize - 0.5 btc
2nd prize - 0.25  btc
3rd prize - 0.1 btc
Please correct it.

Note: I am MOD , I am here only to help players.

Regards
Absy
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May 11, 2016, 06:31:46 PM
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Oh, nice new raffle.
I want win 0.5btc!
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May 12, 2016, 02:34:04 AM
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Since you are still a new site, could you escrow the whole prize? other question, how would you draw the raffle's winners? It should be clear when you make a raffle, because players will always care about the drawing system whether it is provably fair or not.

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May 12, 2016, 02:43:15 AM
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Caxn you lower the minimum bet? I think 0.05 btc is very big.
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May 12, 2016, 03:14:38 AM
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Caxn you lower the minimum bet? I think 0.05 btc is very big.

No sir, because good prize
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May 12, 2016, 03:19:50 AM
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Since you are still a new site, could you escrow the whole prize? other question, how would you draw the raffle's winners? It should be clear when you make a raffle, because players will always care about the drawing system whether it is provably fair or not.


we will use service
https://www.random.org/

our game with provably fair.

Thanks!
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May 12, 2016, 03:49:37 AM
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Since you are still a new site, could you escrow the whole prize? other question, how would you draw the raffle's winners? It should be clear when you make a raffle, because players will always care about the drawing system whether it is provably fair or not.


we will use service
https://www.random.org/

our game with provably fair.

Thanks!

Random.org is not provably fair enough in case to draw a raffle like this imho. Because it can be use as many as you want till you get "expected" winner number. Not mention you will do it but you need to use better way in order to draw the winner. Maybe using hash like other raffles. Just my opinion

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May 12, 2016, 03:55:33 AM
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this offer is nice giving new opportunity to win free bitcoin while playing the game goodluck to those bettors that knows how the game works this is another way to win aside from the game itself just needed to play with minimum of .05btc then you can play the raffle good job owner.

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May 12, 2016, 06:59:42 AM
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Just some friendly advice. When starting a promotion it's better to come up with something original. Now you blantantly copy/pasted the LuckyBit promotion.
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Just some friendly advice. When starting a promotion it's better to come up with something original. Now you blantantly copy/pasted the LuckyBit promotion.

thanks for advice sir!
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i was willing to participate in your contest but then i saw red trust.
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May 12, 2016, 11:56:15 AM
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i was willing to participate in your contest but then i saw red trust.

Careful, OP is a proven and known SCAMMER, see:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.0

There is a virtual certainty that he will not pay you what you are owed - see his main thread for several people asking for what is rightfully theirs.

I expect this site to close any moment now, and OP to delete his profile only to start some other scam. It is sad, really.
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May 12, 2016, 01:05:13 PM
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NOTICE. STOLEN CONTENT. POSSIBLE FRAUD ALERT

This "promotion" is a clear and blatant theft of the LuckyBit Rose Gold Wallet Raffle - even the text has been stolen. This user is sending PMs to any user that participates in a LuckyBit promotion, advertising this. PM advertisements are a violation of Bitcoin Talk's terms of service and this thread has been reported to the administration.

Participate in this promotion at your own risk. This user and site has engaged in questionable behavior including unsolicited advertising, impersonation, and customer scalping.

Crypto is dead, its community is a series of bad jokes.
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May 12, 2016, 01:10:40 PM
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Since when people at bitcointalk started having such low level of intelligence ? If you take a second out to read the negative feedback by NlNico it says,

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Site is a scam.

1) Their provably fair implementation does not prove any fairness.
2) Even though their implementation sucks already, they still managed to cheat it extra, by changing a hash to a losing hash. See reference.

Reference Link : - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.0

It would be stupid of you play here.
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Since when people at bitcointalk started having such low level of intelligence ? If you take a second out to read the negative feedback by NlNico it says,

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Site is a scam.

1) Their provably fair implementation does not prove any fairness.
2) Even though their implementation sucks already, they still managed to cheat it extra, by changing a hash to a losing hash. See reference.

Reference Link : - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.0

It would be stupid of you play here.

ho don't remove your post about scam, God will punish you! because we no scam and not cheat! Think about it!
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May 12, 2016, 01:26:39 PM
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Since when people at bitcointalk started having such low level of intelligence ? If you take a second out to read the negative feedback by NlNico it says,

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Site is a scam.

1) Their provably fair implementation does not prove any fairness.
2) Even though their implementation sucks already, they still managed to cheat it extra, by changing a hash to a losing hash. See reference.

Reference Link : - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.0

It would be stupid of you play here.

ho don't remove your post about scam, God will punish you! because we no scam and not cheat! Think about it!
Since when people at bitcointalk started having such low level of intelligence ? If you take a second out to read the negative feedback by NlNico it says,

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Site is a scam.

1) Their provably fair implementation does not prove any fairness.
2) Even though their implementation sucks already, they still managed to cheat it extra, by changing a hash to a losing hash. See reference.

Reference Link : - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.0

It would be stupid of you play here.

ho don't remove your post about scam, God will punish you! because we no scam and not cheat! Think about it!

Really? It has been proved everywhere else that you changed the hash  and you cheated them  You just let your supporters down and its good that it was found out early . RIP rollincoin.

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This post does not represent LuckyBit and is the personal opinion of stingleword.

Are you fucking kidding me?!!!!!

Since all of us over at LB are laughing about this situation, I went to the trouble to investigate the RollinCoin Provably Fair system myself. I have got to say that this is 100% useless and you would get a better game if you sat behind the computer with a coin and flipped it yourself.

1. There is absolutely no explanation of how it works. The user is left to figure it out himself. Hardly "provable"!
2. After some wrangling, we determined that the formula is MD5(("win"|"lose")+":SecretKey="+secretKey) to generate the hash.
3. The secret key has no bearing on the game result - as far as I can tell, it does nothing.
4. The user's TXID doesn't affect the game result, either - there is literally no data with which to duplicate the result.
5. The results of a game are not provably fair, are not verifiable and the method by which the results are derived is not transparent.

6. Therefore, I conclude that not only is this game not Provably Fair, it is NOT FAIR AT ALL.

The previous post does not represent LuckyBit and is the personal opinion of stingleword. Sometimes this is required when he posts about things that might be work-related, but when not operating in a work capacity.

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This post does not represent LuckyBit and is the personal opinion of stingleword.

Are you fucking kidding me?!!!!!

Since all of us over at LB are laughing about this situation, I went to the trouble to investigate the RollinCoin Provably Fair system myself. I have got to say that this is 100% useless and you would get a better game if you sat behind the computer with a coin and flipped it yourself.

1. There is absolutely no explanation of how it works. The user is left to figure it out himself. Hardly "provable"!
2. After some wrangling, we determined that the formula is MD5(("win"|"lose")+":SecretKey="+secretKey) to generate the hash.
3. The secret key has no bearing on the game result - as far as I can tell, it does nothing.
4. The user's TXID doesn't affect the game result, either - there is literally no data with which to duplicate the result.
5. The results of a game are not provably fair, are not verifiable and the method by which the results are derived is not transparent.

6. Therefore, I conclude that not only is this game not Provably Fair, it is NOT FAIR AT ALL.

The previous post does not represent LuckyBit and is the personal opinion of stingleword. Sometimes this is required when he posts about things that might be work-related, but when not operating in a work capacity.


Hello,

I investigate this provably fair too.

this really provably fair system, because md5 hash pre generated before bet.
so working with md5 hash lot of casinos in the world https://igames365.com/provably-fair  and more
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Thus you can easely verify that the game has been provably fair. Simply copy and paste the “secret string” into any online MD5 checker (e.g. Online MD5. http://onlinemd5.com/


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May 12, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
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This post does not represent LuckyBit and is the personal opinion of stingleword.

Are you fucking kidding me?!!!!!

Since all of us over at LB are laughing about this situation, I went to the trouble to investigate the RollinCoin Provably Fair system myself. I have got to say that this is 100% useless and you would get a better game if you sat behind the computer with a coin and flipped it yourself.

1. There is absolutely no explanation of how it works. The user is left to figure it out himself. Hardly "provable"!
2. After some wrangling, we determined that the formula is MD5(("win"|"lose")+":SecretKey="+secretKey) to generate the hash.
3. The secret key has no bearing on the game result - as far as I can tell, it does nothing.
4. The user's TXID doesn't affect the game result, either - there is literally no data with which to duplicate the result.
5. The results of a game are not provably fair, are not verifiable and the method by which the results are derived is not transparent.

6. Therefore, I conclude that not only is this game not Provably Fair, it is NOT FAIR AT ALL.

The previous post does not represent LuckyBit and is the personal opinion of stingleword. Sometimes this is required when he posts about things that might be work-related, but when not operating in a work capacity.


Hello,

I investigate this provably fair too.

this really provably fair system, because md5 hash pre generated before bet.
so working with md5 hash lot of casinos in the world https://igames365.com/provably-fair  and more

Thus you can easely verify that the game has been provably fair. Simply copy and paste the “secret string” into any online MD5 checker (e.g. Online MD5. http://onlinemd5.com/



Provably fair requires that it be provable. But I can't prove anything because the hash of my game isn't presented to me before I play - and when I do play, I don't have a guarantee that the hash presented will be the hash played against (we have proof-of-alteration on the books).

Furthermore, MD5 is very weak and could be bruteforced. Judging from the recent bet list, someone has already defeated the system.

Crypto is dead, its community is a series of bad jokes.
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