AntMiner S9 rampant speculation thread, have to be quick though

[philipma1957]

According to the Poloniex Trolltalk apparently the S9 is already released but only to the Chinese market.

Then the Chinese site of bitmaintech should have a link

[elokk]

According to the Poloniex Trolltalk apparently the S9 is already released but only to the Chinese market.

   ::)Hopefully you don't believe everything you read in the trollbox

Just kidding

[Sierra8561]

Another s7 model is out.
ANTMINER S7 BATCH 18 with 2 fans - Shipped out from June 2nd. https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201605290908457178P0E046905D2

[adaseb]

Another s7 model is out.
ANTMINER S7 BATCH 18 with 2 fans - Shipped out from June 2nd. https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201605290908457178P0E046905D2

They priced it almost as the last batch probably because BTC went up slightly. They are trying to get every single dollar they can.

[edonkey]

Another s7 model is out.
ANTMINER S7 BATCH 18 with 2 fans - Shipped out from June 2nd. https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201605290908457178P0E046905D2

They priced it almost as the last batch probably because BTC went up slightly. They are trying to get every single dollar they can.

Yup. Bitmain is consistent where it comes to profit...

I have a very bad feeling about the S9. Based on recent releases, it will certainly be overpriced. And as the dominant force in mining hardware, everyone and his mother is going to buy S9s so the difficulty is going to skyrocket. It will be the S7 all over again, only worse because of the halving.

With the overpriced S7 the only saving grace was that BTC doubled in price. Assuming a similarly overpriced S9 that also creams the difficulty like crazy, then this time BTC will have to quadruple due to the halving just to keep up.

Yes, Bitcoin has been going up a lot recently and that's good. But if your mining profit is absolutely dependent on the price going up dramatically, then why buy overpriced hardware and fund Bitmain's further dominance?

It's a bummer, but unless things go differently this time I'm probably out of the Bitcoin mining game. I'll just keep what I've been doing, namely buying BTC over time (using Bitwage because I'm lazy) and hanging on to old Scrypt ASICs just to keep my hand in.

Not that my behavior matters. For every one of me there are plenty of others who are desperate to own magic money making machines, against all odds or sense.

[philipma1957]

Another s7 model is out.
ANTMINER S7 BATCH 18 with 2 fans - Shipped out from June 2nd. https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201605290908457178P0E046905D2

They priced it almost as the last batch probably because BTC went up slightly. They are trying to get every single dollar they can.

Yup. Bitmain is consistent where it comes to profit...

I have a very bad feeling about the S9. Based on recent releases, it will certainly be overpriced. And as the dominant force in mining hardware, everyone and his mother is going to buy S9s so the difficulty is going to skyrocket. It will be the S7 all over again, only worse because of the halving.

With the overpriced S7 the only saving grace was that BTC doubled in price. Assuming a similarly overpriced S9 that also creams the difficulty like crazy, then this time BTC will have to quadruple due to the halving just to keep up.

Yes, Bitcoin has been going up a lot recently and that's good. But if your mining profit is absolutely dependent on the price going up dramatically, then why buy overpriced hardware and fund Bitmain's further dominance?

It's a bummer, but unless things go differently this time I'm probably out of the Bitcoin mining game. I'll just keep what I've been doing, namely buying BTC over time (using Bitwage because I'm lazy) and hanging on to old Scrypt ASICs just to keep my hand in.

Not that my behavior matters. For every one of me there are plenty of others who are desperate to own magic money making machines, against all odds or sense.

It is not what it used to be. The margins were better for,the little guy.

I am a little guy but the solar array does give me cheap power.

Just not as much as I want.


Yeah I see,one,or,two,s-9s in the,future of the array.  But I may not rush to,buy,them.

Not much,fun,to,be,a miner,of btc.

ETH coin may keep things going for,a  while I wonder if it will keep going for a few months or for a year or more.

[Efficiency V]

All these new S7 Batchs for sale... makes me wonder if they are just trying to sell off their used S7 machines that they were mining with as they replace their own farms with the the new S9 miners.  "refurb" the used S7, clean them up, maybe make a few slight cost effective modifications here and there .. and sell it as a "new batch" just to get rid of the S7 they were mining with?

I mean, what has really changed in these last two batches? went back two fans? anything else?

[RappelzReborn]

I am a little guy but the solar array does give me cheap power.

I wont hijack this thread but i'm very interested on specs you re using for your solar array as i'm starting to seriously ponder about it. Is there any topic you can point me @ or willingly to share your experience?
~RR

[delicin33]

All these new S7 Batchs for sale... makes me wonder if they are just trying to sell off their used S7 machines that they were mining with as they replace their own farms with the the new S9 miners.  "refurb" the used S7, clean them up, maybe make a few slight cost effective modifications here and there .. and sell it as a "new batch" just to get rid of the S7 they were mining with?

I mean, what has really changed in these last two batches? went back two fans? anything else?

there are 6000 units of used/ refurb S7 -single fan on sales @ their CN site for 0.833 BTC
https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160519101458311rI3i5GoH067A

[QuintLeo]

Well, dang.

 S9 release in early July looks fairly likely now.

[philipma1957]

I am a little guy but the solar array does give me cheap power.

I wont hijack this thread but i'm very interested on specs you re using for your solar array as i'm starting to seriously ponder about it. Is there any topic you can point me @ or willingly to share your experience?
~RR

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1369207.0


forum member       buysolar     built it   so he has much more knowledge of it then me.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=95512



Back to thread  so they have 6000 units of s-7 to sell  that is 28.3 ph.  What is btc at the moment  535 usd I think.

  They will have a lot of trouble selling it.  that is 445 usd  for a unit

[adaseb]

Why is it the same price as the new unit with 2 fans?

[Biodom]

Why is it the same price as the new unit with 2 fans?

I think it is just a conversion error.
They have local BTC price of 3685 at Huobi, so 2900 CNY is 0.787 BTC, not 0.848

[flip21]

No longer S9 Speculation .... https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=0002016052907243375530DcJIoK0654

16nm - 14THs - 1375w - $2100

[ATCkit]

Bitmain's thread for the S9:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.0

[philipma1957]

I ordered one  a few minutes ago.

[Finksy]

I would be willing to guess we are looking at 0.09W/GHs ATW efficiency, 14TH/s and around $1900.

Do I win the cookie? under-shot by $200, but that was before the price hike of BTC.

[Sierra8561]

I ordered one  a few minutes ago.

I've got a few coming.

[Bitsaurus]

I don't see how this can be profitable unless Bitcoin fiat price continues on it's upward trajectory.  This is not the gift that was the S3.

[Next BillG]

I don't see how this can be profitable unless Bitcoin fiat price continues on it's upward trajectory.  This is not the gift that was the S3.

I put it in a calculator, if your electricity price is $0.2, the electricity cost is $6.7, the revenue is 18.3, the profit is 11.6. So difficult to ROI after halving.