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February 26, 2013, 02:35:15 PM |
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I'm sorry to open this thread but it looks like no one is worried about this. What's really happening? Can we have an ufficial word?
Only ~5% of the units works properly?
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February 26, 2013, 02:52:02 PM |
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I'm sorry to open this thread but it looks like no one is worried about this. What's really happening? Can we have an ufficial word?
Only ~5% of the units works properly?
No, not by TOMORROW. Tomorrow is the 27. They promised to ship all 300 units by the 28th, which is the day after. Thus, they can ship 145 units tomorrow and 145 units the day after. /sarcasm
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February 26, 2013, 02:57:10 PM |
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I'm sorry to open this thread but it looks like no one is worried about this. What's really happening? Can we have an official word?
Only ~5% of the units works properly?
Its not that people aren't concerned (worried), its that we need to wait and let a deadline actually come before filing your complaints. See when someone says "X Date" then it usually means "X date" not 5 days before or 2 weeks before. For some reason people can not seem to handle that. What I hope is really happening is that they are building units everyday and shipping them. Likely a whole mess of them were held up in customs and they are working that out. Don't forget there is customs in your country too. Yifu was really clear about their plan and when communications would come out. You will need to just wait this one out.
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February 27, 2013, 01:40:49 AM |
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You will need to just wait this one out. But that's two more days away, and some of us are jonesin'. Can't wait for for tomorrow's one-more-day update.
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February 27, 2013, 01:53:02 AM |
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I'm sorry to open this thread but it looks like no one is worried about this. What's really happening? Can we have an official word?
Only ~5% of the units works properly?
Its not that people aren't concerned (worried), its that we need to wait and let a deadline actually come before filing your complaints. See when someone says "X Date" then it usually means "X date" not 5 days before or 2 weeks before. For some reason people can not seem to handle that. What I hope is really happening is that they are building units everyday and shipping them. Likely a whole mess of them were held up in customs and they are working that out. Don't forget there is customs in your country too. Yifu was really clear about their plan and when communications would come out. You will need to just wait this one out. Generally customs only comes into play for the receiving country, not the shipper. For it to take this long they didn't ship them individually. They chose to ship them freight or cargo and then reship. That's the only explanation. Assuming they actually shipped them. A handful of people on china claim to have them. And they one guy who ordered several only received one machine and confimed that anyone else who ordered several also only received a single unit.
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February 27, 2013, 02:06:26 AM |
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exporting stuff is also concerning the customs in your country. especially cryptography..
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February 27, 2013, 02:17:24 AM |
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To give some reference: I just ordered one case of industrial material from china using chinese EMS service, order date 22nd FEB, and I received it today morning (Europe), that's 5 days include weekend ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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February 27, 2013, 02:29:24 AM |
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Generally customs only comes into play for the receiving country, not the shipper. For it to take this long they didn't ship them individually. They chose to ship them freight or cargo and then reship. That's the only explanation. Assuming they actually shipped them. A handful of people on china claim to have them. And they one guy who ordered several only received one machine and confirmed that anyone else who ordered several also only received a single unit.
What you can export, in what quantities and to where is something for which each country has its own regulations - things can and do get held up in customs in their country of origin (even using a customs broker doesn't guarantee this won't happen, especially with products being exported for the first time). They already said prior to CNY that they had shipped 53 units in one batch and were waiting to learn whether those units had made it out of China before CNY. It would be silly to ship more units by the same route/method before knowing the fate of those 53. Yifu has made very clear in past posts that they are hoping for people to become Avalon re-sellers, which could make the shipping process much easier for future batches. I agree that Yifu needs to provide an update on this, but comparisons to other products for which the customs issues were solved long ago are pretty meaningless (hell, even things which should have no customs issues whatsoever randomly get held up, no matter which carrier you use).
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All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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February 27, 2013, 02:31:14 AM |
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@OP, I don't know. I hope so, just so that BFL suckers can start mining at an even higher difficulty. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 27, 2013, 04:36:30 AM |
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@OP, I don't know. I hope so, just so that BFL suckers can start mining at an even higher difficulty. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.klingon-empire.org%2Fphotopost%2Fdata%2F500%2FSith_Lord_00.jpg&t=665&c=X7LE1AzwYfuFRw) Your hatred is strong. Come to the Dark Side....
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February 27, 2013, 02:19:40 PM |
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Generally customs only comes into play for the receiving country, not the shipper. For it to take this long they didn't ship them individually. They chose to ship them freight or cargo and then reship. That's the only explanation. Assuming they actually shipped them. A handful of people on china claim to have them. And they one guy who ordered several only received one machine and confirmed that anyone else who ordered several also only received a single unit.
What you can export, in what quantities and to where is something for which each country has its own regulations - things can and do get held up in customs in their country of origin (even using a customs broker doesn't guarantee this won't happen, especially with products being exported for the first time). They already said prior to CNY that they had shipped 53 units in one batch and were waiting to learn whether those units had made it out of China before CNY. It would be silly to ship more units by the same route/method before knowing the fate of those 53. Yifu has made very clear in past posts that they are hoping for people to become Avalon re-sellers, which could make the shipping process much easier for future batches. I agree that Yifu needs to provide an update on this, but comparisons to other products for which the customs issues were solved long ago are pretty meaningless (hell, even things which should have no customs issues whatsoever randomly get held up, no matter which carrier you use). Yes except there are people in china who have ordered 10, who have only received one unit.
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February 27, 2013, 06:27:12 PM |
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Somewhere there was a post that claimed Avalon only had a few working units. It's seeming more plausible now. Anyone have a link to that post?
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February 27, 2013, 06:30:14 PM |
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Somewhere there was a post that claimed Avalon only had a few working units. It's seeming more plausible now. Anyone have a link to that post?
Avalon proved to have a few (<10) working units, here is some help: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/working-avalon-asic-confirmed/The problem is that they don't have the other 290 and since that they don't say what's happening to them, i presume it to be something bad.
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February 27, 2013, 06:38:11 PM |
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YIFU said avalons will arrive in ~2weeks. So just wait 2 weeks
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February 27, 2013, 06:41:16 PM |
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YIFU said avalons will arrive in ~2weeks. So just wait 2 weeks
lol, wat? where?
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February 27, 2013, 06:46:53 PM |
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YIFU said avalons will arrive in ~2weeks. So just wait 2 weeks
He said that 45 days ago, 2 weeks later 1 single unit arrived.
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February 27, 2013, 06:47:48 PM |
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YIFU said avalons will arrive in ~2weeks. So just wait 2 weeks
He said that 45 days ago, 2 weeks later 1 single unit arrived. Lets not forget about Chinese New Year.
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February 27, 2013, 07:02:16 PM |
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YIFU said avalons will arrive in ~2weeks. So just wait 2 weeks
He said that 45 days ago, 2 weeks later 1 single unit arrived. Lets not forget about Chinese New Year. I don't believe the CNY story about not being able to ship half of the batch before that. As someone already pointed out, some of their Chinese customers received only 1 unit even if they ordered more. This only works out if they have production problems. An update on these problems would be great.
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February 27, 2013, 07:19:25 PM |
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YIFU said avalons will arrive in ~2weeks. So just wait 2 weeks
He said that 45 days ago, 2 weeks later 1 single unit arrived. Lets not forget about Chinese New Year. I don't believe the CNY story about not being able to ship half of the batch before that. As someone already pointed out, some of their Chinese customers received only 1 unit even if they ordered more. This only works out if they have production problems. An update on these problems would be great. Beliefs and facts are different. He has up until March 5th for all Batch #1 to ship. I suggest we just wait it out then hold his feet to the fire for answers once that deadlines passes.
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February 27, 2013, 07:34:20 PM |
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Where are the units coming from China ?
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