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May 13, 2016, 11:11:35 AM
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What happened: finishedgrey took a loan of 0.02 BTC to be repaid 0.023 when Yobit's send button get fixed as shown here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455355.msg14729924#msg14729924

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554170

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455355.msg14729924#msg14729924
Amount Scammed: 0.023
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/4d07a89d128000ad81ed3067029670a17ec2264e48ab3681b842546cde626237
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Additional Notes: Many trusted users assured me the Yobit's send button is working fine since days on a topic I opened asking about the matter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1467839 , I contacted the member finishedgrey about his loan and he did not answer any of my PMs



I have 2 accounts he kept as collateral with me, I believe they are mine now and I am free to do what pleases me with them
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May 13, 2016, 11:14:10 AM
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for how long is he not responding now?

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May 13, 2016, 11:16:22 AM
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I have 2 accounts he kept as collateral with me, I believe they are mine now and I am free to do what pleases me with them[/b]


Yes you have 2 account, but till this accounts have red flag ther worth nothing! So be sure that trusted users remove they red first!

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May 13, 2016, 11:18:12 AM
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you know there's a different scam accusation open agains this user?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1462239.0

It's claimed he has sold 2 member accounts to a user for 0.02BTC, but after receiving payment, he didn't send the details.
It just strikes me as odd that he gave you 2 member accounts as collateral for a 0.02BTC loan and then defaulted... Makes me wonder if he just had 2 accounts and then used them both as sellable goods and collateral.

In that case he gave them as collateral to you on the 2nd:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=soli1e&s=9#.VzW4TcvtlBd

An in the meantime sold those accounts  to a second user on the same day:
http://i.imgur.com/jpOaDsw.png

No proof here, just assumptions Wink
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May 13, 2016, 11:21:47 AM
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for how long is he not responding now?

He has not been responding since May 9, as you can see from the PM I sent him



I know he has been online and active and never bothered to reply I even tried here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1468418.msg14816104#msg14816104

He goes around buying accounts for cheap and then sells them in the form of loans for profit, like he has been here looking for a cheap member account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1459971.msg14824459#msg14824459 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1468413.msg14824113#msg14824113

I want to warn others from dealing with him.

you know there's a different scam accusation open agains this user?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1462239.0

It's claimed he has sold 2 member accounts to a user for 0.02BTC, but after receiving payment, he didn't send the details.
It just strikes me as odd that he gave you 2 member accounts as collateral for a 0.02BTC loan and then defaulted... Makes me wonder if he just had 2 accounts and then used them both as sellable goods and collateral.

In that case he gave them as collateral to you on the 2nd:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=soli1e&s=9#.VzW4TcvtlBd

An in the meantime sold those accounts  to a second user on the same day:
http://i.imgur.com/jpOaDsw.png

No proof here, just assumptions Wink

Yes, sadly that scam accusation came a few days after he took the loan from me.
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May 17, 2016, 09:26:15 AM
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Is anyone from DT going to add to his trust after this scam accusation or am I the only one ?
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May 17, 2016, 09:53:33 AM
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Is anyone from DT going to add to his trust after this scam accusation or am I the only one ?
Its not technically a scam .You gave loan to a defaulter who not only defaulted the loan but sold the collateral to the third party.Taking accounts as collateral is never safe without signed messages or its just not what a sensible lender would do.Maybe message someone from the DT to bring this to their attention ? Mostly they would ignore as by taking accounts as collateral doesn't make you less than a scammer.You know,everyone hates account farming here.

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May 17, 2016, 01:21:20 PM
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Is anyone from DT going to add to his trust after this scam accusation or am I the only one ?
Its not technically a scam .You gave loan to a defaulter who not only defaulted the loan but sold the collateral to the third party.Taking accounts as collateral is never safe without signed messages or its just not what a sensible lender would do.Maybe message someone from the DT to bring this to their attention ? Mostly they would ignore as by taking accounts as collateral doesn't make you less than a scammer.You know,everyone hates account farming here.
Defaulting on a loan gets red trust by DT usually.  It doesn't have to be an intentional scam.

OP, be prepared for this sort of bullshit if you're going to be in the lending business.   You're going to be owning lots of accounts.

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May 17, 2016, 04:12:21 PM
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Is anyone from DT going to add to his trust after this scam accusation or am I the only one ?
Its not technically a scam .You gave loan to a defaulter who not only defaulted the loan but sold the collateral to the third party.Taking accounts as collateral is never safe without signed messages or its just not what a sensible lender would do.Maybe message someone from the DT to bring this to their attention ? Mostly they would ignore as by taking accounts as collateral doesn't make you less than a scammer.You know,everyone hates account farming here.
Defaulting on a loan gets red trust by DT usually.  It doesn't have to be an intentional scam.

OP, be prepared for this sort of bullshit if you're going to be in the lending business.   You're going to be owning lots of accounts.

I already own 3 accounts from defaulted loans, now me and some other lenders are making loans with account as collateral a bit harder, I am a beginner and made the mistake of thinking Member rank accounts are dear to their owners.
Why I say what finishedgrey did is a scam is because he was taking the loan with the intention to default (which I discovered a bit too late) and he is not answering any of my PMs, proving this was his plan to "sell" me the 2 accounts he put as collateral.
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