Is The DAO going to be "Dead on Arrival" ?

[r0ach]

Srsly, who are you trying to fool?

What?  That saying in a comparison of Bitshares vs NXT, that Bitshares was better, yet both turned out to be useless? LOL.  You were hyping up NXT, now you seem to call Come from Beyond a scammer.  I used to believe proof of stake might have some value, but the more I learned about how all the elements of cryptocurrency come together, I now know it's useless while you STILL haven't figured out PoS is useless.  There's a reason Nick Szabo of the Eth scam said he wishes Eth would stay on proof of work.

Vitalik has some far leftist, communist leanings and believes capitalism will eventually cease to exist, which is probably why he's against proof of work and pro-PoS, because proof of work only works in capitalist systems:

Don't forget Vitalik is a radical socialist that claims Bitcoin is a "transition technology" because capitalism itself will go away due to being inherently inefficient.  Here's a 4 minute Kool-aid drinking video of him overjoyed at the idea of being imprisoned inside an authoritarian state as his smart car pod drives him around while being deducted micropayments to be allowed freedom of travel.

https://youtu.be/i5VVmTI9F9s?t=168

He is a communist technocrat, listen to the video!

[DecentralizeEconomics]

Srsly, who are you trying to fool?

What?  That saying in a comparison of Bitshares vs NXT, that Bitshares was better, yet both turned out to be useless? LOL.  You were hyping up NXT, now you seem to call Come from Beyond a scammer.  I used to believe proof of stake might have some value, but the more I learned about how all the elements of cryptocurrency come together, I now know it's useless while you STILL haven't figured out PoS is useless.

There is a huge difference between NXT's PoS and the Larimers' DPoS centralizing, fraudulent voting scheme.  Not to mention the fact that you'd be hard-pressed to find a sentence that came out of the Larimers' mouths that wasn't a lie.  They changed the "plan" so many times I lost count, and it was always to their financial advantage.

I've never said that Come-from-Beyond was a scammer.  I said that he picked a total moron and international communist, David Sonstebo, as CEO of his joint venture, IOTA.  I wouldn't trust David to run the Curly-Q machine at the local Dairy Queen.

I don't think PoS is useless.  I agree it may have some flaws, but so does PoW.  What you want is a perfect system and that doesn't exist.

[tokeweed]

Srsly, who are you trying to fool? 

What?  That saying in a comparison of Bitshares vs NXT, that Bitshares was better, yet both turned out to be useless? LOL.  You were hyping up NXT, now you seem to call Come from Beyond a scammer.  I used to believe proof of stake might have some value, but the more I learned about how all the elements of cryptocurrency come together, I now know it's useless while you STILL haven't figured out PoS is useless.

There is a huge difference between NXT's PoS and the Larimers' DPoS centralizing, fraudulent voting scheme.  Not to mention the fact that you'd be hard-pressed to find a sentence that came out of the Larimers' mouths that wasn't a lie.  They changed the "plan" so many times I lost count, and it was always to their financial advantage.

I've never said that Come-from-Beyond is a scammer.  I said that he picked a total moron and international communist, David Sonstebo, as CEO of his joint venture, IOTA.  I wouldn't trust David to run the Curly-Q machine at the local Dairy Queen.

I don't think PoS is useless.  I agree it may have some flaws, but so does PoW.  What you want is a perfect system and that doesn't exist.

It's not even about which platform is better anymore.  IT'S ABOUT ROACH BEING A LYING PIECE OF BALLSACK!

[tokeweed]

QFT!  Everyone read.

^ Don't listen to that Roach guy.  He's just a sore whining BTS supporter, who sold his stake at a loss.  Not to mention blindly following the Larimers and giving them away his BTS soul for the sake of Bitshares.   Where is Bitshares headed now?  Bitshares has stagnated while Ethereum is flourishing.  And now comes in here and whines and bitches and tells people to stay away from Ethereum?  He should have stayed away from Bitshares and the Larimers.  Instead we see a guy who sucks at trading whining like a little girl.  Haha.

It's always the biggest Larimer supporters who become their greatest critics.

Haha.  DE check out what Roach said...

For the 100th time, this thread is about Eth and the DAO.  When you seem this desperate to change the subject away from what the thread is about, something is wrong.  I have absolutely nothing to do with Bitshares.  The only involvement I've ever had is buying some at 1400 satoshi before the price went to 3500 satoshi. The only thing I own is BTC.  I, and everyone else in this thread, has zero interest in Bitshares.  Now back to the subject of the DAO and Eth.

WHAT A BIG F**KING LIAR!

Now he claims to have made money by trading BTS when in fact he is sore as sh*t because he and his community got conned by the Larimers.  Jeeezzusss.  Lying sack of sh*t.

I TRIED TO TELL 'EM!  YOU KNOW I TRIED TO TELL 'EM!  IF I SAID IT ONCE, I SAID IT A THOUSAND TIMES!

It's always the biggest Larimer supporters who become their greatest critics.

The Eth shills do nothing but flat out lie to try and con people out of money.  The best part is, he claims I'm a "bts supporter", except in 1st page of this thread, you can easily see my comment below.

This is exactly what I said days ago, that Bitshares already proved the DAO is a horrible idea lol.

Srsly, who are you trying to fool?  Anybody can look back at your post history and tell that you were the NUMERO UNO Bitshares shill hyping the Larimer's / Chicom's scam.  You're right that Bitshares was a "horrible idea".  Anyone with a functioning brain knew that back when you were promoting it.  It was so obvious, you'd have to be brain dead not to realize the con the Larimer Gang was pulling on everyone.  Heck, they even tried to sell their Testnet coins, and Little Larimer Jr wrote up a blog post trying to convince their sheeple why it was a good idea to buy them.  The only reason you supported the Larimers back then was because you were trying to make money at the expense of helping the Larimers perpetrate their scam on the innocent.  You are such a lying sellout it isn't even funny.  It serves you right that the Larimers robbed you blind.  The Larimers are the sleaziest people to have slithered through this forum.  They are some of the biggest liars, cheaters, and thieves that I've seen in a long time.  You're right up their with them in my opinion for supporting them when you obviously knew what they were doing was wrong and against the ideology of free, decentralized crypto.

How am I an "Eth shill"?  The only thing I support right now is the Synereo social network and tech stack, because I believe in free speech.  Just because Synereo and Ethereum are working together on blockchain tech doesn't make me an "Eth shill".  You're the one who tried to con people out of money when you were in cahoots with the Larimer Gang and the Chicoms.

[r0ach]

It's not even about which platform is better anymore.  IT'S ABOUT ROACH BEING A LYING PIECE OF BALLSACK!

Keep trying to change the subject away from this DAO and Eth scam.  Already posted the proof that you lied claiming I'm "so mad at Eth because I lost money from bitshares", when I posted evidence that was a flat out lie and never lost a dime.  So back to the subject of this thread, who do you think the SEC investigation into the DAO and Eth will uncover as the Eth manipulator?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1475328.0

[tokeweed]

It's not even about which platform is better anymore.  IT'S ABOUT ROACH BEING A LYING PIECE OF BALLSACK!

Keep trying to change the subject away from this DAO and Eth scam.  Already posted the proof that you lied claiming I'm "so mad at Eth because I lost money from bitshares", when I posted evidence that was a flat out lie and never lost a dime.  So back to the subject of this thread, who do you think the SEC investigation into the DAO and Eth will they uncover as the Eth manipulator?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1475328.0

SEC investigation?  Bring it on!  That's only FUD and you know it.  

Oh..  How does the Larimers d**ks taste?  It's worth it I hope cos they owned you hard!

[DecentralizeEconomics]

Vitalik has some far leftist, communist leanings and believes capitalism will eventually cease to exist, which is probably why he's against proof of work and pro-PoS, because proof of work only works in capitalist systems:

Don't forget Vitalik is a radical socialist that claims Bitcoin is a "transition technology" because capitalism itself will go away due to being inherently inefficient.  Here's a 4 minute Kool-aid drinking video of him overjoyed at the idea of being imprisoned inside an authoritarian state as his smart car pod drives him around while being deducted micropayments to be allowed freedom of travel.

https://youtu.be/i5VVmTI9F9s?t=168

He is a communist technocrat, listen to the video!

You're certainly one to be pointing out "commies" after your association with the Larimers and their Chicom backers.  I'm sure you know from your association with them how much the communists hate freedom of speech.  Was there one thread that the Larimers didn't moderate?

What sense does it make accusing Vitalik of being a "communist" when he is actively working with the Synereo team in developing a decentralized, free speech social network?

[r0ach]

Vitalik has some far leftist, communist leanings and believes capitalism will eventually cease to exist, which is probably why he's against proof of work and pro-PoS, because proof of work only works in capitalist systems:

Don't forget Vitalik is a radical socialist that claims Bitcoin is a "transition technology" because capitalism itself will go away due to being inherently inefficient.  Here's a 4 minute Kool-aid drinking video of him overjoyed at the idea of being imprisoned inside an authoritarian state as his smart car pod drives him around while being deducted micropayments to be allowed freedom of travel.

https://youtu.be/i5VVmTI9F9s?t=168

He is a communist technocrat, listen to the video!

You're certainly one to be pointing out "commies" after your association with the Larimers and their Chicom backers.  I'm sure you know from your association with them how much the communists hate freedom of speech.  Was there one thread that the Larimers didn't moderate?

What sense does it make accusing Vitalik of being a "communist" when he is actively working with the Synereo team in developing a decentralized, free speech social network?

Talk about selective criticism.  You're calling everyone communists and there's Vitalik coming out of the closet as a communist technocrat and you're endorsing him.

[Denker]

What goes up must come down.
Scams come and scams go.
And then we start again from the beginning.
Therefore nothing new to see here.

[stoat]

Vitalik has some far leftist, communist leanings and believes capitalism will eventually cease to exist, which is probably why he's against proof of work and pro-PoS, because proof of work only works in capitalist systems:

Don't forget Vitalik is a radical socialist that claims Bitcoin is a "transition technology" because capitalism itself will go away due to being inherently inefficient.  Here's a 4 minute Kool-aid drinking video of him overjoyed at the idea of being imprisoned inside an authoritarian state as his smart car pod drives him around while being deducted micropayments to be allowed freedom of travel.

https://youtu.be/i5VVmTI9F9s?t=168

He is a communist technocrat, listen to the video!

You're certainly one to be pointing out "commies" after your association with the Larimers and their Chicom backers.  I'm sure you know from your association with them how much the communists hate freedom of speech.  Was there one thread that the Larimers didn't moderate?

What sense does it make accusing Vitalik of being a "communist" when he is actively working with the Synereo team in developing a decentralized, free speech social network?

Talk about selective criticism.  You're calling everyone communists and there's Vitalik coming out of the closet as a communist technocrat and you're endorsing him.

I personally, dont have anything against the far left.

[r0ach]

I personally, dont have anything against the far left.

Nice crowd you got there:

[x13]

Most of the early investors do not want to hold the ICO stake for long. They are wanting fast profits. Most will sell immediately after the new coin has hit the exchanges. So, I agree with you. It is not a substainable investment.

I think a lot of "gimme cash upfront" projects will fail this year

[stoat]

I personally, dont have anything against the far left.

Nice crowd you got there:

i'd rather hang around with those guys than an idiot like you

[tokeweed]

I personally, dont have anything against the far left.

Nice crowd you got there:

Oh look the communists from Bitshares DE was talking about.

[TrueAnon]

LOL this thread went sideways fast

[tokeweed]

LOL this thread went sideways fast

Yes, because...

QFT!  Everyone read.

^ Don't listen to that Roach guy.  He's just a sore whining BTS supporter, who sold his stake at a loss.  Not to mention blindly following the Larimers and giving them away his BTS soul for the sake of Bitshares.   Where is Bitshares headed now?  Bitshares has stagnated while Ethereum is flourishing.  And now comes in here and whines and bitches and tells people to stay away from Ethereum?  He should have stayed away from Bitshares and the Larimers.  Instead we see a guy who sucks at trading whining like a little girl.  Haha.

It's always the biggest Larimer supporters who become their greatest critics.

Haha.  DE check out what Roach said...

For the 100th time, this thread is about Eth and the DAO.  When you seem this desperate to change the subject away from what the thread is about, something is wrong.  I have absolutely nothing to do with Bitshares.  The only involvement I've ever had is buying some at 1400 satoshi before the price went to 3500 satoshi. The only thing I own is BTC.  I, and everyone else in this thread, has zero interest in Bitshares.  Now back to the subject of the DAO and Eth.

WHAT A BIG F**KING LIAR!

Now he claims to have made money by trading BTS when in fact he is sore as sh*t because he and his community got conned by the Larimers.  Jeeezzusss.  Lying sack of sh*t.

I TRIED TO TELL 'EM!  YOU KNOW I TRIED TO TELL 'EM!  IF I SAID IT ONCE, I SAID IT A THOUSAND TIMES!

It's always the biggest Larimer supporters who become their greatest critics.

The Eth shills do nothing but flat out lie to try and con people out of money.  The best part is, he claims I'm a "bts supporter", except in 1st page of this thread, you can easily see my comment below.

This is exactly what I said days ago, that Bitshares already proved the DAO is a horrible idea lol.

Srsly, who are you trying to fool?  Anybody can look back at your post history and tell that you were the NUMERO UNO Bitshares shill hyping the Larimer's / Chicom's scam.  You're right that Bitshares was a "horrible idea".  Anyone with a functioning brain knew that back when you were promoting it.  It was so obvious, you'd have to be brain dead not to realize the con the Larimer Gang was pulling on everyone.  Heck, they even tried to sell their Testnet coins, and Little Larimer Jr wrote up a blog post trying to convince their sheeple why it was a good idea to buy them.  The only reason you supported the Larimers back then was because you were trying to make money at the expense of helping the Larimers perpetrate their scam on the innocent.  You are such a lying sellout it isn't even funny.  It serves you right that the Larimers robbed you blind.  The Larimers are the sleaziest people to have slithered through this forum.  They are some of the biggest liars, cheaters, and thieves that I've seen in a long time.  You're right up their with them in my opinion for supporting them when you obviously knew what they were doing was wrong and against the ideology of free, decentralized crypto.

How am I an "Eth shill"?  The only thing I support right now is the Synereo social network and tech stack, because I believe in free speech.  Just because Synereo and Ethereum are working together on blockchain tech doesn't make me an "Eth shill".  You're the one who tried to con people out of money when you were in cahoots with the Larimer Gang and the Chicoms.

[TrueAnon]

What goes up must come down.
Scams come and scams go.
And then we start again from the beginning.
Therefore nothing new to see here.

So true.

I just wish the devs of such ICO's were as forthcoming and "real" as teh WBB dev!!

[ToScA-]

what is dao exactly, just a decentralized platform, like freenet or stuff like that? or it has to do witht he pos of ethereum?

I don't get it either. Can someone succinctly explain what the hell DAO is, and its relationship to Eth? 

[doc12]

what is dao exactly, just a decentralized platform, like freenet or stuff like that? or it has to do witht he pos of ethereum?

I don't get it either. Can someone succinctly explain what the hell DAO is, and its relationship to Eth? 

The biggest pump n dump in history off cryptos 

Its like a investment fund, which will invest in crypto-companys. Decicions are set by voting (weighted by your DAO share).   

[GreenBits]

Most of the early investors do not want to hold the ICO stake for long. They are wanting fast profits. Most will sell immediately after the new coin has hit the exchanges. So, I agree with you. It is not a substainable investment.

I think a lot of "gimme cash upfront" projects will fail this year

Yezzir. Not being pessimistic, but I feel a lot of folks are only along for the first part of this ride. Look at the ETSY ipo for example. The early vc taking profit ruined the price, it took a while to recover. ETSY is an established company with a viable product that has proven value. This DAO is a great concept, but rather ambigous for such a large valuation.

LOL this thread went sideways fast

Yes, yes the fuck it did. Put down the hatchet guys. I don't know what roach was talking about with the bts shit, I'm not sure what a bts is to be honest, nor could I give a fuck. but he's an alright guy atm, a bit paranoid but not too much so, and he's at least trying to raise some valid concerns with this. Not picking sides, not making enemies either, but let's keep the past in the past and focus on this possible train wreck lumbering towards us