BITMAIN!! Make a 200-400 Watt miner!!

[sidehack]

I like how quickly the "build rigs for home miners please" thread shifted to "just give up and mine altcoins instead".

[philipma1957]

I like how quickly the "build rigs for home miners please" thread shifted to "just give up and mine altcoins instead".

yeah  well  this is what people did  to mine since no asic builder was willing to sell it to them.

No chips for a guy like you ..  No lower watt miner. prebuilt  nothing of note for more then 18 months.


The demand for a lower power miner was ignored .

[sidehack]

Right, but the solution to "I want a 400W bitcoin miner" isn't "mine something that's not bitcoin instead", assuming the goal is to mine bitcoins. And I don't accept "mine altcoins and trade them for bitcoins" as a valid answer because, for the most part, any given altcoin exists as a flash in the pan and every dollar made from one came from someone losing that dollar when the brief and entirely expected bust is over. Ethereum might actually stick around, but for every coin that lasts there are what, 200 that briefly spike, make profits for the cheaters with exceptionally good timing, and then go under?

I might have to take some time and read up on ethereum, but nothing's yet convinced me to like proof-of-stake and a couple other things I've heard.

But I do like the idea of a sub-500W miner like what we used to have before the industrial circlejerks took over.

[toptek]

Right, but the solution to "I want a 400W bitcoin miner" isn't "mine something that's not bitcoin instead", assuming the goal is to mine bitcoins. And I don't accept "mine altcoins and trade them for bitcoins" as a valid answer because, for the most part, any given altcoin exists as a flash in the pan and every dollar made from one came from someone losing that dollar when the brief and entirely expected bust is over. Ethereum might actually stick around, but for every coin that lasts there are what, 200 that briefly spike, make profits for the cheaters with exceptionally good timing, and then go under?

I might have to take some time and read up on ethereum, but nothing's yet convinced me to like proof-of-stake and a couple other things I've heard.

But I do like the idea of a sub-500W miner like what we used to have before the industrial circlejerks took over.

you should read about it, they are pushing it hard it maybe here for ever or till whatever im building a 2 card rig that can handle 6 which I'll take it to, parts should be here next week i'll mine other coins if eth takes a big dump.
 and still hope you get chips or some one.....

[ZedZedNova]

I like how quickly the "build rigs for home miners please" thread shifted to "just give up and mine altcoins instead".

yeah  well  this is what people did  to mine since no asic builder was willing to sell it to them.

No chips for a guy like you ..  No lower watt miner. prebuilt  nothing of note for more then 18 months.


The demand for a lower power miner was ignored .

The ASIC producers went to where the money is. That's capitalism, and the home/low-budget miners don't have enough capital.

That said, based on my experience with the Compac stick miner, if sidekick manages to get his hands on enough new generation chips to produce a batch of sub-500 watt miners, I'd be interested in one.

Cheers,

- zed

[Brewins]

I like how quickly the "build rigs for home miners please" thread shifted to "just give up and mine altcoins instead".

yeah  well  this is what people did  to mine since no asic builder was willing to sell it to them.

No chips for a guy like you ..  No lower watt miner. prebuilt  nothing of note for more then 18 months.


The demand for a lower power miner was ignored .

The ASIC producers went to where the money is. That's capitalism, and the home/low-budget miners don't have enough capital.

That said, based on my experience with the Compac stick miner, if sidekick manages to get his hands on enough new generation chips to produce a batch of sub-500 watt miners, I'd be interested in one.

Cheers,

- zed

So would half the people that read the hardware threads.  I am sure something will pop up, at least I hope so.

[abeandund]

It's all a shell game.  I think ethereum is legit and has a purpose but from what I understand it is a platform to collaborate not really a currency.  The ethereum is meant to be the means of paying each other within the platform then the individuals could exchange into what ever had value to them. I'm not sure if i'll ever have a use for it, but when I read into it I thought to myself, this was kind of what sidehack was asking for when he put a call out for some coding help his proto type miners.  I believe the platform was meant for software developement and actually crowd fund in the same place.  I'm sure there is more to it, but I doubt it could survive without bitcoin, since that was the main way to obtain eth, before it was minable and bitcoin is what gives it value today.  If it does make the switch to proof of stake and become unminable next year it may stand on its own, but then its real value will be within the platform itself and to those who use it.  Kind of like how we hobby miners either, hold bitcoin as investment, reinvest bitcoin into hardware, buy things with bitcoin, or exchange bitcoin ino another currency to pay bills.

Back on topic, I sure would like some low power miners, because I don't have spare 220 lines laying around to launch a multiple S7s, but I do have lots of circuits to throw a 500 watt miner on around and connect to wifi or hard wire via usb lines to computer.

[QuintLeo]

Given folks have built their own miners from ASIC from major manufacturers, it could be that Bitfury and Bitmain are planning to leave that "small market" to the "small fry manufacturers" in the future.

[Amph]

Just don't spend a ton building ETH rigs from new parts, it is very iffy if you'll manage to ROI if you try that at this point.

 (Unless, like me, you were planning to build the rigs anyway for other usage and are just mining ETH short-term with them to help defray part of the cost).

or don't build the rig for etheruem only? build it for the future altcoin mining, like i've said etheruem is not the end of mining

it's just the beginning like doge litecoin and all the other with big profit


apart from this...i would love a small miner, with a small wattage like 500max, just to mine bitcoin directly, but they would charge for it much more in comparison with the big perhaps at the launch....

[philipma1957]

Just don't spend a ton building ETH rigs from new parts, it is very iffy if you'll manage to ROI if you try that at this point.

 (Unless, like me, you were planning to build the rigs anyway for other usage and are just mining ETH short-term with them to help defray part of the cost).

or don't build the rig for etheruem only? build it for the future altcoin mining, like i've said etheruem is not the end of mining

it's just the beginning like doge litecoin and all the other with big profit


apart from this...i would love a small miner, with a small wattage like 500max, just to mine bitcoin directly, but they would charge for it much more in comparison with the big perhaps at the launch....

Yeah I know pcs can mine other coins.

They can have long warranties 1 or more years.

I have five built at the moment .

I almost paid two of them off.
I could sell one. At a discount. This would get me closer to r.o.i.

[vapourminer]

200-400 watt miner would be nice.

i have around a 1200 watt "budget" for summer mining, and i prefer to spread it out. currently 5 compacs lotto mining, and a few gpus on eth. that leaves around 400-500 watts that im reserving for sidehack projects.

[QuintLeo]

BTW - that "S7 lite" thing Bitmain came out came fairly close to your demand.
Bit more power usage than the S5, but not all that different - I could have swapped it in place one-for-one with my S5s easy enough, though what I'd do with those Enermax PS it comes with I have no clue - I'd have prefered it NOT have a power supply and LOSE the cost and shipping weight of those things.

[spazzdla]

BTW - that "S7 lite" thing Bitmain came out came fairly close to your demand.
Bit more power usage than the S5, but not all that different - I could have swapped it in place one-for-one with my S5s easy enough, though what I'd do with those Enermax PS it comes with I have no clue - I'd have prefered it NOT have a power supply and LOSE the cost and shipping weight of those things.

Still a lot of power I would much rather on the 200 watt end. So 700 is pretty hefty.

[VirosaGITS]

BTW - that "S7 lite" thing Bitmain came out came fairly close to your demand.
Bit more power usage than the S5, but not all that different - I could have swapped it in place one-for-one with my S5s easy enough, though what I'd do with those Enermax PS it comes with I have no clue - I'd have prefered it NOT have a power supply and LOSE the cost and shipping weight of those things.

Still a lot of power I would much rather on the 200 watt end. So 700 is pretty hefty.

There is nothing current gen that fit that description. You'd have to undervolt S7 blades and custom cool it.

[adamvp]

I would like to see something quiet... It may use 1kW or so but let it be QUIET!

[QuintLeo]

EACH BOARD of an S7 (or S9 now) eats close to 500 watts.

 The probability of Bitmain making a 400W or less miner at this point is .... I won't say zero, they could in theory do a long-overdue update to the U3 - but essentially zero.

 Just isn't worth it to them to re-engineer their boards to cut them down to 2 strings just for a few folks that want a small miner.


 In theory, they COULD put out a 1-board "quietish" miner - but I dunno if THAT would be worth it to them.


 1KW is NOT going to be quiet, that's a LOT of heat to dissipate.



 3'd party folks are another story - if any of the manufacturers will actually get a significant number of chips sold to a non-hugh-farm type operation.