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May 20, 2016, 07:16:05 AM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.
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May 20, 2016, 11:41:19 AM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.
You can create it by hand using Bitcoin Core's createrawtransaction RPC.

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May 20, 2016, 05:03:43 PM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.

In Electrum you can setup the fee as you like.

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May 20, 2016, 06:23:13 PM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.
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I don't think there is a way
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May 21, 2016, 11:47:12 PM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.

you can use bitcoin-tx that comes with bitcoin-core to create any custom transaction including one with zero fees. But I don't think the network will accept such transactions. Once I tried pushing such a tx (which contained valid data) using https://blockchain.info/pushtx and it was rejected. While Electrum allows adjusting fees to custom values, it does not allow creating zero fee transactions.
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May 22, 2016, 01:44:21 AM
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There are a lot of wallets that allow you to manually set the transaction fee to zero but that is not recommended beacuse it may take a long time to confirm the trasaction due to it's low priority.

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May 22, 2016, 07:53:11 AM
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While Electrum allows adjusting fees to custom values, it does not allow creating zero fee transactions.

Was this a change in one of their latest releases, because I've done zero fee tx with electrum a while ago when I transferred some bitcoins to a paper wallet!  Huh

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May 22, 2016, 10:36:38 AM
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I'll summarise
Electrum - not possible
Coinb.in - not possible
Bitcoin core - Downloading chain
Any other way?
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May 22, 2016, 01:23:44 PM
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While Electrum allows adjusting fees to custom values, it does not allow creating zero fee transactions.

Was this a change in one of their latest releases, because I've done zero fee tx with electrum a while ago when I transferred some bitcoins to a paper wallet!  Huh

I am using Electrum 2.6.4 on Linux, and when I attempted to make the fee zero, received a message saying this is not allowed. I do not know when this was introduced.
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May 22, 2016, 03:21:39 PM
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While Electrum allows adjusting fees to custom values, it does not allow creating zero fee transactions.

Was this a change in one of their latest releases, because I've done zero fee tx with electrum a while ago when I transferred some bitcoins to a paper wallet!  Huh

I am using Electrum 2.6.4 on Linux, and when I attempted to make the fee zero, received a message saying this is not allowed. I do not know when this was introduced.

Maybe it was this:
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 * increase MIN_RELAY_TX_FEE to avoid dust transactions

You could try with an older version of electrum.

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May 22, 2016, 04:54:52 PM
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you can set up fee transaction to get fast confirmation but i don't know how to make zero fee transaction, i think you can't send without fee transaction in every transaction you made.

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May 22, 2016, 06:34:28 PM
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It's not for a payment.Its for a technical report or analysis.Please suggest a working method or wallet.
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May 22, 2016, 07:46:18 PM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.

It really isn't worth it. I wait once 2 weeks because of to less fee.

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May 23, 2016, 01:42:32 AM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.

I think you can still create the Zero fee transaction with blockchain. Don't know if it is unavailable with the new update
But Zero fee transaction are usually done by scammers to reverse back sent bitcoin because that transaction never confirms

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May 23, 2016, 04:25:15 AM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.

I think you can still create the Zero fee transaction with blockchain. Don't know if it is unavailable with the new update
But Zero fee transaction are usually done by scammers to reverse back sent bitcoin because that transaction never confirms

Why you need them ?

It's the third time I'm writing this,I need it for making a technical report on Bitcoin transaction.
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May 23, 2016, 05:59:51 AM
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If you just for created 0 free, use desktop/cold wallet, like electrum, you can custom the transaction fee.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Priority_transactions
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May 23, 2016, 07:10:22 AM
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You should be careful about trying to send BTC with zero transaction fee, it'll likely take forever for the transaction to complete. Just create a wallet with Coinbase, I've never had to pay any transaction fees when sending BTC  Smiley . Although I think you might have to pay if you're sending extremely small amounts like 20k Sat (I've never tried it personally).
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May 23, 2016, 07:48:31 AM
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You can but the confirmation time will be a lot longer. It is highly not recommended but you can use the Bitcoin Core client.

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May 23, 2016, 09:29:45 AM
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You should be careful about trying to send BTC with zero transaction fee, it'll likely take forever for the transaction to complete. Just create a wallet with Coinbase, I've never had to pay any transaction fees when sending BTC  Smiley . Although I think you might have to pay if you're sending extremely small amounts like 20k Sat (I've never tried it personally).

You can't predict the outcome of a zero fee tx. It depends on coin age and amount, the older and bigger, the better. I've done some of those tx myself and they were all successful, but the coins were older than a year and the amounts were 1 BTC and above!

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May 23, 2016, 09:53:34 AM
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In little part I join this question:

As I know in classic (old) Multibit is impossible to change manually transaction fee, and it was always 10k sat.

Do any other version of MultiBit have option to change manually fee? If so, which is that?
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May 28, 2016, 03:54:53 AM
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None of the method suggested by users here works
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May 28, 2016, 09:44:33 AM
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None of the method suggested by users here works

Try mycellium wallet you can manually set the fee to 0

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May 28, 2016, 09:53:41 AM
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None of the method suggested by users here works

Define "works". As far as I know the first method posted by knightdk works (Manually creating the transaction).

                                                                       
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May 28, 2016, 01:11:13 PM
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try using bitcoin-tx that is included with bitcoin-core

you'll have to do all the calculations before you construct the tx

The following iswhat I learnt by trial and error, I couldn't find any documentation on this

Code:
bitcoin-tx -create in=TX_ID:INDEX outaddr=VALUE:ADDRESS set=prevtxs:'[{"txid":"TX_ID","vout":INDEX,"scriptPubKey":"76a914PUBLIC_KEY_HASH88ac"}]' set=privatekeys:'{"privatekeys":"PRIVATE_KEY"}' sign

The above can be used for a simple transaction which takes a single input and has a single output. The following values should be used as arguments.

TX_ID:INDEX - transaction hash and index of input

VALUE:ADDRESS - amount of BTC to be sent along with bitcoin address

PUBLIC_KEY_HASH - public key hash of bitcoin address from which BTC is being spent

PRIVATE_KEY - private key of bitcoin address from which BTC is being spent

When multiple inputs received by the same address need to be specified, there should be a "in=TX_ID:INDEX" argument that corresponds to each input. It has to be specified again under the prevtxs array. i.e. multiple {"txid":"TX_ID","vout":INDEX,"scriptPubKey":"76a914PUBLIC_KEY_HASH88ac"} arguments corresponding to each input seperated by commas within the square brackets. Multiple outputs can be specified by including "outaddr=VALUE:ADDRESS" corresponding to each output.

The output produced is the raw transaction as a string of hexadecimal characters.
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May 29, 2016, 10:41:56 AM
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Hello, I heard that zero fee transactions will never be successful and the funds will be stuck in the chain, and the funds will never be returned. Is that true? Does spending more fees allows transaction go be executed faster??
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May 29, 2016, 11:08:03 AM
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Hello, I heard that zero fee transactions will never be successful and the funds will be stuck in the chain, and the funds will never be returned. Is that true? Does spending more fees allows transaction go be executed faster??

Zero fees transaction can get confirmed but has low chance and incase the transaction didnt get any confirmation for 2-3days then the memory pool will drop it and the coins will returned to the sending address as if nothing happens. Yes the more fees you paid the higher chance for your transaction to be included in the next block

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May 29, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
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Hello, I heard that zero fee transactions will never be successful and the funds will be stuck in the chain, and the funds will never be returned. Is that true? Does spending more fees allows transaction go be executed faster??

Zero fees transaction can get confirmed but has low chance and incase the transaction didnt get any confirmation for 2-3days then the memory pool will drop it and the coins will returned to the sending address as if nothing happens. Yes the more fees you paid the higher chance for your transaction to be included in the next block


Exactly. I actually have made a zero-fee transaction last week (FYR, the tx ID is b2b9d553583da4dcd20fc04f50427d72e4f46b49e26f13011f0f67ab07f8aed0) and it was included in a block ~9 hours afterward.

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Exactly. I actually have made a zero-fee transaction last week (FYR, the tx ID is b2b9d553583da4dcd20fc04f50427d72e4f46b49e26f13011f0f67ab07f8aed0) and it was included in a block ~9 hours afterward.
Well thats stange, i heard most nodes now have min tx fee relay now set to minimum 0.00001. So u got lucky to your transaction beign included/relayed with 0 fee?
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Create the transaction manually using createrawtransaction.  If the inputs exactly equal the outputs, then there is no fee.  For example, assume you have an input of 0.01 in transaction TXID and you send that 0.01 to address ADDR1:

Code:
myHex = createrawtransaction [{"txid":"TXID", "vout":0}] {"ADDR1":0.01}

Once created, you then need to sign it (you use as input the output from the previous call):

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mySignedHex = signrawtransaction "myHex"

Now, you broadcast that transaction:

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sendrawtransaction "mySignedHex"

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Exactly. I actually have made a zero-fee transaction last week (FYR, the tx ID is b2b9d553583da4dcd20fc04f50427d72e4f46b49e26f13011f0f67ab07f8aed0) and it was included in a block ~9 hours afterward.
Well thats stange, i heard most nodes now have min tx fee relay now set to minimum 0.00001. So u got lucky to your transaction beign included/relayed with 0 fee?

A transaction with over 57,600,000 priority shouldn't need any fee to get relayed by most nodes. But without any fee, getting a confirmation can still take a long time.

                                                                       
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June 13, 2016, 06:46:20 AM
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Create the transaction manually using createrawtransaction.  If the inputs exactly equal the outputs, then there is no fee.  For example, assume you have an input of 0.01 in transaction TXID and you send that 0.01 to address ADDR1:

Code:
myHex = createrawtransaction [{"txid":"TXID", "vout":0}] {"ADDR1":0.01}

Once created, you then need to sign it (you use as input the output from the previous call):

Code:
mySignedHex = signrawtransaction "myHex"

Now, you broadcast that transaction:

Code:
sendrawtransaction "mySignedHex"

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myHex = createrawtransaction [{"txid":"TXID", "vout":0}] {"ADDR1":0.01}
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Any clues?

jonnybravo0311 was giving you a generic example.  He assumed that you had the technical skills to understand the generic example and apply it to your own needs.  If you want someone to give you the exact command that you would need to create a raw transaction, then they are going to need information about the bitcoins that are available in your wallet.

Run this command in the console, and provide the results.  With the information returned from this command, it should be possible to give you an exact command that will build a transaction for you:

Code:
listunspent


As long as you know the information identifying the unspent outputs that you'll build the transaction from, there are a few web sites that will help you to build a raw transaction, it can also be done with Bitcoin Core, and it is also possible to either build one by hand or write your own computer program to do so.
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myHex = createrawtransaction [{"txid":"TXID", "vout":0}] {"ADDR1":0.01}
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Thanks for the help but

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Any clues?

jonnybravo0311 was giving you a generic example.  He assumed that you had the technical skills to understand the generic example and apply it to your own needs.  If you want someone to give you the exact command that you would need to create a raw transaction, then they are going to need information about the bitcoins that are available in your wallet.

Run this command in the console, and provide the results.  With the information returned from this command, it should be possible to give you an exact command that will build a transaction for you:

Code:
listunspent


RPC:


Code:
listunspent




Code:
[
  {
    "txid": "38427a43ac56a660130e86a45ccba448c2030364a512fad83e9e8598dd890e1f",
    "vout": 0,
    "address": "1KnBK6r5AFQgiuMfrAnpUZWRpaio2TQXPP",
    "account": "",
    "scriptPubKey": "76a914cdfd9729cda304610c5463e9740d2606fddad32188ac",
    "amount": 0.00179300,
    "confirmations": 4,
    "spendable": true
  }
]
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June 13, 2016, 07:09:08 AM
Last edit: June 13, 2016, 07:25:49 AM by DannyHamilton
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Try this:

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createrawtransaction [{\"txid\":\"38427a43ac56a660130e86a45ccba448c2030364a512fad83e9e8598dd890e1f\",\"vout\":0}] {\"1CvRg4qu35KfJy8cLEszZvrbDiRghtmvDq\":0.001793}

Your output should look something like this:

01000000 01 1f0e89dd98859e3ed8fa12a5640303c248a4cb5ca4860e1360a656ac437a4238 00000000 00 ffffffff 01 64bc0200 00 000000 19 76 a9 14 82c406aacfa3fc448bea007a55e7d784ba683b37 88 ac 00000000

Note that if you wanted to create such a transaction by hand, you'd need to understand how the matching colors below are related:

createrawtransaction [{"txid":"38427a43ac56a660130e86a45ccba448c2030364a512fad83e9e8598dd890e1f","vout":0}] {"1CvRg4qu35KfJy8cLEszZvrbDiRghtmvDq":0.001793}

01000000 01 1f0e89dd98859e3ed8fa12a5640303c248a4cb5ca4860e1360a656ac437a4238 00000000 00 ffffffff 01 64bc0200 00 000000 19 76 a9 14 82c406aacfa3fc448bea007a55e7d784ba683b37 88 ac 00000000

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I have never done a zero transaction fee transfer. Blockchain.info defines to have a very low transaction fee, also you could get a fee less transaction only on buying bitcoin from traders or exchange's.

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You can do it in the Bitcoin Core client, but I don't recommand it. The transaction will take at least 2 days, and may even "bounce back".

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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.

If you really want to do it, and since I actually don't know any other way of doing this to be honest, you should try using Blockchain.info with the legacy version. AFAIK they still allow it.

But what's the point of a zero fee transaction anymore?
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You can do so with the mSIGNA wallet.
I just started using bitcoin two weeks ago and am using this wallet because of it's high security standard. For every transaction you have to assign the transaction fee manually and it can be zero.
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June 15, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
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Is there a way to create zero fee transaction anymore.The only way I knew was Blockchain.info and it seems they have removed it now.

PS: I need it for technical purpose.

If you really want to do it, and since I actually don't know any other way of doing this to be honest, you should try using Blockchain.info with the legacy version. AFAIK they still allow it.

But what's the point of a zero fee transaction anymore?
I'm pretty sure they still let you create 0 fee transactions on the beta wallet, but the last time I did one on there, it took half a day to confirm it. There really is no point unless you're low on money and need to pay somebody, but have no extra bitcoin to make the transaction fee. It's just too damn slow nowadays to make one of those, and besides, if it doesn't confirm the mempool just sends it back and you've done absolutely nothing.
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Try this:

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createrawtransaction [{\"txid\":\"38427a43ac56a660130e86a45ccba448c2030364a512fad83e9e8598dd890e1f\",\"vout\":0}] {\"1CvRg4qu35KfJy8cLEszZvrbDiRghtmvDq\":0.001793}

Your output should look something like this:

01000000 01 1f0e89dd98859e3ed8fa12a5640303c248a4cb5ca4860e1360a656ac437a4238 00000000 00 ffffffff 01 64bc0200 00 000000 19 76 a9 14 82c406aacfa3fc448bea007a55e7d784ba683b37 88 ac 00000000

Note that if you wanted to create such a transaction by hand, you'd need to understand how the matching colors below are related:

createrawtransaction [{"txid":"38427a43ac56a660130e86a45ccba448c2030364a512fad83e9e8598dd890e1f","vout":0}] {"1CvRg4qu35KfJy8cLEszZvrbDiRghtmvDq":0.001793}

01000000 01 1f0e89dd98859e3ed8fa12a5640303c248a4cb5ca4860e1360a656ac437a4238 00000000 00 ffffffff 01 64bc0200 00 000000 19 76 a9 14 82c406aacfa3fc448bea007a55e7d784ba683b37 88 ac 00000000



Well ok

but after this whenever I'm trying to sign the transaction I get :



signrawtransaction "0100000001bf5fb8dc3884edc6e8c4d1e028624975b5e184deda1bcd6d77b312d1547dd54800000 00000ffffffff011c170200000000001976a914857249351a591cec53e19c9bd8320370b1f4746b 88ac00000000"


{
  "hex": "0100000001bf5fb8dc3884edc6e8c4d1e028624975b5e184deda1bcd6d77b312d1547dd54800000 00000ffffffff011c170200000000001976a914857249351a591cec53e19c9bd8320370b1f4746b 88ac00000000",
  "complete": false,
  "errors": [
    {
      "txid": "48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf",
      "vout": 0,
      "scriptSig": "",
      "sequence": 4294967295,
      "error": "Operation not valid with the current stack size"
    }
  ]
}
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The last result I had is so dissatisfactory
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The last result I had is so dissatisfactory

According to the transaction that you posted, it looks like you are trying to spend a 0.00005775 BTC output that was sent to 15PYSSX8MTrmPsxkdWSZbZfoYL3JPV1BPd

Although I'm not familiar with the specific error you are reporting, "Operation not valid with the current stack size", I do see three possible problems with the transaction you built.

First of all you only funded the transaction using a single 0.00005775 BTC unspent output as an input, but then you tried to create a new 0.00136988 BTC output.  In order to be a valid transaction, the sum of the output values that you create must be less than or equal to the sum of the values of the inputs that you use.  0.00136988 IS NOT less than or equal to  0.00005775. If the sum of the of the output values is less than the sum of the inputs, then the remaining value is a transaction fee for the miners.

Another other potential problem would be if you do not have the private key for 15PYSSX8MTrmPsxkdWSZbZfoYL3JPV1BPd in your wallet.  Without that private key, the wallet software would be unable to sign the transaction. Are you certain that the wallet you are using has the private key for that address?  If the wallet doesn't have the private key, then you can supply the private key in the parameters that you send to signrawtransaction.

And finally, if you haven't yet synchronized your Bitcoin Core wallet with the blockchain, then it won't be able to look up transaction ID 48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf to determine which private key to use for the signature.  In that case, you'll need to supply the "scriptPubKey" in the parameters that you send to signrawtransaction.

Note that if the wallet doesn't have the private key AND you also haven't synchronized the blockchain, then you can still sign the transaction with signrawtransaction as long as you supply BOTH the "scriptPubKey" and the private key, along with the raw transaction in the parameters that you send to signrawtransaction.

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signrawtransaction <hexstring> [{"txid":txid,"vout":n,"scriptPubKey":hex},...] [<privatekey1>,...]

Where:
  • hexstring is the rawtransaction represented in hexadecimal
  • txid is the hash value represented in hexadecimal of the transaction containing the unspent output that you are using to fund the transaction and for which you will be supplying the scriptPubKey (in this case that would be 48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf)
  • n is the index indicating which unspent output from the previous transaction is being used as an input in this transaction (in this case that would be 0)
  • hex is the scriptPubKey value represented in hexadecimal from the unspent output that is being used as an input.
  • privatekey1 is the private key in WIF (wallet import format) that you will use to sign the transaction (in this case that would be the private key associated with address 15PYSSX8MTrmPsxkdWSZbZfoYL3JPV1BPd
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The last result I had is so dissatisfactory

According to the transaction that you posted, it looks like you are trying to spend a 0.00005775 BTC output that was sent to 15PYSSX8MTrmPsxkdWSZbZfoYL3JPV1BPd

Although I'm not familiar with the specific error you are reporting, "Operation not valid with the current stack size", I do see three possible problems with the transaction you built.

First of all you only funded the transaction using a single 0.00005775 BTC unspent output as an input, but then you tried to create a new 0.00136988 BTC output.  In order to be a valid transaction, the sum of the output values that you create must be less than or equal to the sum of the values of the inputs that you use.  0.00136988 IS NOT less than or equal to  0.00005775. If the sum of the of the output values is less than the sum of the inputs, then the remaining value is a transaction fee for the miners.

Another other potential problem would be if you do not have the private key for 15PYSSX8MTrmPsxkdWSZbZfoYL3JPV1BPd in your wallet.  Without that private key, the wallet software would be unable to sign the transaction. Are you certain that the wallet you are using has the private key for that address?  If the wallet doesn't have the private key, then you can supply the private key in the parameters that you send to signrawtransaction.

And finally, if you haven't yet synchronized your Bitcoin Core wallet with the blockchain, then it won't be able to look up transaction ID 48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf to determine which private key to use for the signature.  In that case, you'll need to supply the "scriptPubKey" in the parameters that you send to signrawtransaction.

Note that if the wallet doesn't have the private key AND you also haven't synchronized the blockchain, then you can still sign the transaction with signrawtransaction as long as you supply BOTH the "scriptPubKey" and the private key, along with the raw transaction in the parameters that you send to signrawtransaction.

Usage details:
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signrawtransaction <hexstring> [{"txid":txid,"vout":n,"scriptPubKey":hex},...] [<privatekey1>,...]

Where:
  • hexstring is the rawtransaction represented in hexadecimal
  • txid is the hash value represented in hexadecimal of the transaction containing the unspent output that you are using to fund the transaction and for which you will be supplying the scriptPubKey (in this case that would be 48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf)
  • n is the index indicating which unspent output from the previous transaction is being used as an input in this transaction (in this case that would be 0)
  • hex is the scriptPubKey value represented in hexadecimal from the unspent output that is being used as an input.
  • privatekey1 is the private key in WIF (wallet import format) that you will use to sign the transaction (in this case that would be the private key associated with address 15PYSSX8MTrmPsxkdWSZbZfoYL3JPV1BPd


oh well!
As a matter of fact
I'm trying to spend 0.00136988 sent to the address : 1EZPifMcq31gXsMM8s4RBDy4T5kkAJtTpo If there's a way I con do it or I got the whole spending scenario wrong?
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June 20, 2016, 06:52:39 AM
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You can create zero fee transactions but I doubt how long, if even so, it will be successfully included in a block.
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June 20, 2016, 11:23:02 AM
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oh well!
As a matter of fact
I'm trying to spend 0.00136988 sent to the address : 1EZPifMcq31gXsMM8s4RBDy4T5kkAJtTpo If there's a way I con do it or I got the whole spending scenario wrong?

If you look at the transaction that created the output you are trying to spend, you'll see that it has 2 outputs.  You have to specify which output you want to spend.

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getrawtransaction 48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf 1

{
  "txid": "48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf",
  "size": 373,
  "version": 1,
  "locktime": 0,
  "vin": [
    {
      "txid": "3e7b1a8dbf026d77e62bb896d560dca9b27a576340119fee7d16492d2ace32a4",
      "vout": 0,
      "sequence": 4294967295
    },
    {
      "txid": "af7d3ded1b8ccd2138bf35a7154f389fd90ac5af2beb73f5b8849d2df69bb572",
      "vout": 1,
      "sequence": 4294967295
    }
  ],
  "vout": [
    {
      "value": 0.00005775,
      "n": 0,

      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 3023e5def45112164a3519728cc27f975e6e39e1 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "15PYSSX8MTrmPsxkdWSZbZfoYL3JPV1BPd"
        ]
      }
    },
    {
      "value": 0.00136988,
      "n": 1,

      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 94b9e905ee5bf75f0bb9b90f1383689f5cdc3a7e OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "1EZPifMcq31gXsMM8s4RBDy4T5kkAJtTpo"
        ]
      }
    }
  ],
  "blockhash": "0000000000000000055d59425a4f802b41bc1cbf3437329525ab5d5e6b4687a6",
  "confirmations": 137,
}


If you have the private key for 1EZPifMcq31gXsMM8s4RBDy4T5kkAJtTpo in your wallet, then this should work:

Code:
createrawtransaction [{\"txid\":\"48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf\",\"vout\":1}] {\"1DAbnF1nDhLWkkMKVqKNHRJF39fwfjdrfB\":0.00136988}

Which should result in a transaction that looks like this:
0100000001bf5fb8dc3884edc6e8c4d1e028624975b5e184deda1bcd6d77b312d1547dd54801000 00000ffffffff011c170200000000001976a914857249351a591cec53e19c9bd8320370b1f4746b 88ac00000000

The difference between this transaction and the one you are trying to sign is that this one is spending the output (vout) where n=1, and you were trying to spend the output (vout) where n=0.
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oh well!
As a matter of fact
I'm trying to spend 0.00136988 sent to the address : 1EZPifMcq31gXsMM8s4RBDy4T5kkAJtTpo If there's a way I con do it or I got the whole spending scenario wrong?

If you look at the transaction that created the output you are trying to spend, you'll see that it has 2 outputs.  You have to specify which output you want to spend.

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getrawtransaction 48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf 1

{
  "txid": "48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf",
  "size": 373,
  "version": 1,
  "locktime": 0,
  "vin": [
    {
      "txid": "3e7b1a8dbf026d77e62bb896d560dca9b27a576340119fee7d16492d2ace32a4",
      "vout": 0,
      "sequence": 4294967295
    },
    {
      "txid": "af7d3ded1b8ccd2138bf35a7154f389fd90ac5af2beb73f5b8849d2df69bb572",
      "vout": 1,
      "sequence": 4294967295
    }
  ],
  "vout": [
    {
      "value": 0.00005775,
      "n": 0,

      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 3023e5def45112164a3519728cc27f975e6e39e1 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "15PYSSX8MTrmPsxkdWSZbZfoYL3JPV1BPd"
        ]
      }
    },
    {
      "value": 0.00136988,
      "n": 1,

      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 94b9e905ee5bf75f0bb9b90f1383689f5cdc3a7e OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "1EZPifMcq31gXsMM8s4RBDy4T5kkAJtTpo"
        ]
      }
    }
  ],
  "blockhash": "0000000000000000055d59425a4f802b41bc1cbf3437329525ab5d5e6b4687a6",
  "confirmations": 137,
}


If you have the private key for 1EZPifMcq31gXsMM8s4RBDy4T5kkAJtTpo in your wallet, then this should work:

Code:
createrawtransaction [{\"txid\":\"48d57d54d112b3776dcd1bdade84e1b575496228e0d1c4e8c6ed8438dcb85fbf\",\"vout\":1}] {\"1DAbnF1nDhLWkkMKVqKNHRJF39fwfjdrfB\":0.00136988}

Which should result in a transaction that looks like this:
0100000001bf5fb8dc3884edc6e8c4d1e028624975b5e184deda1bcd6d77b312d1547dd54801000 00000ffffffff011c170200000000001976a914857249351a591cec53e19c9bd8320370b1f4746b 88ac00000000

The difference between this transaction and the one you are trying to sign is that this one is spending the output (vout) where n=1, and you were trying to spend the output (vout) where n=0.


Thank u for the follow up>i was able to sign the transaction but as soon as I tried to broadcast it this happened :
15:29:26

66: mempool min fee not met (code -26)

which in my opinion is asking for the fee which again defies my very urgent motive ie to create zero fee transaction.How to proceed from this step?
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Thank u for the follow up>i was able to sign the transaction but as soon as I tried to broadcast it this happened :
15:29:26

66: mempool min fee not met (code -26)

which in my opinion is asking for the fee which again defies my very urgent motive ie to create zero fee transaction.How to proceed from this step?

So, you have now successfully accomplished what we set out to do: Create a zero fee transaction.

Now it looks like you are trying to find a way to broadcast this transaction.

Unfortunately, because it is expected that most peers will refuse to relay any transaction that doesn't have a sufficient fee, and it is assumed that miners won't bother confirming your transaction if it doesn't have a sufficient fee, the default installation of Bitcoin Core is configured warn you and refuse to broadcast it.

It's not very useful to broadcast a transaction to peers that are simply going to ignore it. Most of the network and miners will never even hear about it.

So, keep in mind that even if you change the configuration on your Bitcoin Core to allow it to broadcast free transactions, all of your connected peers might just ignore the transaction.

With that in mind:

If you have an arrangement with a mining pool to confirm your transactions, you could just send the transaction directly to them (you'll need to contact the pool to find out how they'd like to receive the transaction).

If you really want to try broadcasting your transaction from Bitcoin Core, I believe you can use bitcoin.conf to change some of the fee restriction settings in Bitcoin Core.

You could also try using an API from a service that is willing to broadcast signed transactions for you.  There are a few websites that will do that:

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June 20, 2016, 04:42:06 PM
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Thank u for the follow up>i was able to sign the transaction but as soon as I tried to broadcast it this happened :
15:29:26

66: mempool min fee not met (code -26)

which in my opinion is asking for the fee which again defies my very urgent motive ie to create zero fee transaction.How to proceed from this step?

So, you have now successfully accomplished what we set out to do: Create a zero fee transaction.

Now it looks like you are trying to find a way to broadcast this transaction.

Unfortunately, because it is expected that most peers will refuse to relay any transaction that doesn't have a sufficient fee, and it is assumed that miners won't bother confirming your transaction if it doesn't have a sufficient fee, the default installation of Bitcoin Core is configured warn you and refuse to broadcast it.

It's not very useful to broadcast a transaction to peers that are simply going to ignore it. Most of the network and miners will never even hear about it.

So, keep in mind that even if you change the configuration on your Bitcoin Core to allow it to broadcast free transactions, all of your connected peers might just ignore the transaction.

With that in mind:

If you have an arrangement with a mining pool to confirm your transactions, you could just send the transaction directly to them (you'll need to contact the pool to find out how they'd like to receive the transaction).

If you really want to try broadcasting your transaction from Bitcoin Core, I believe you can use bitcoin.conf to change some of the fee restriction settings in Bitcoin Core.

You could also try using an API from a service that is willing to broadcast signed transactions for you.  There are a few websites that will do that:



Thank u for all the info.
I really appreciate it.
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June 21, 2016, 11:35:45 AM
 #49

where is the zero fee transection i really need itl.
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