Is BTCPOP a scam?

[ALATAY2K16]

BTCPOP became scam? cant entrer since yesterday? I saw it coming too much server movement and changes lately

lol hard for it I'm on pop just now and from your comment shows you don't even come in chat to find out what is going on or you would know the site was getting work done on it and that's why it was running slow. go log in just now and find out :-) even come in chat and say hello to me lol

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[mtnsaa]

I'm not sure if the site is a scam since I've never had the luck to even withdraw my money but it's definitely full of scammers and it's partly due to their security so it's basically the same if you ask me. If you go there to lend money you'll lose it, that's it. Perhaps as an exchange it works better (but why would you use this shady option when there are much more reputable ones).

Two "A" grade borrowers with all their verified details just scammed the very little money I had to test the site (I know, I'm wise and lucky like that).

I'll never come back and I'm sure I'll keep alerting others for as long as I can. Stay away or use other safer options to increase your stash (BTC margin lending on Poloniex or Bitfinex for example).

[silly-boy]

yes this site is a total scam.  They bought ardeva from coinsortium owner illegally . Because coinsortium owes 100's in btc to account holders.  How can you buy an asset from a failed exchange ardeva a verifying website from a btc exchange that failed using ardeva to verify owners?? Ardeva failed once already. there is almost no recourse on investing here dont do it.  They charge .25 btc to open an ipo that is a breeding ground for scam companies to pop up.   Btc pop top asset is ardeva and it already has failed it is useless. Try to get money from someone that takes it with ardeva verification . It has not happened yet.    Casmir is now the owner of btcpop he got it from bartholmew.  As for the laons being backed by collateral, go check loans that are backed an what they are backed by.... crummy stcok at btc pop.  So do you get the  scam yet???   Open ipo and buy shares of other companies other company owners will buy each others shares  then put up those shares for collateral on more loans to buy more stock.   Stay away.

I think I've been scammed by Btcpop. Please can you tell me if you have any updates on them?

[senyorito123]

yes this site is a total scam.  They bought ardeva from coinsortium owner illegally . Because coinsortium owes 100's in btc to account holders.  How can you buy an asset from a failed exchange ardeva a verifying website from a btc exchange that failed using ardeva to verify owners?? Ardeva failed once already. there is almost no recourse on investing here dont do it.  They charge .25 btc to open an ipo that is a breeding ground for scam companies to pop up.   Btc pop top asset is ardeva and it already has failed it is useless. Try to get money from someone that takes it with ardeva verification . It has not happened yet.    Casmir is now the owner of btcpop he got it from bartholmew.  As for the laons being backed by collateral, go check loans that are backed an what they are backed by.... crummy stcok at btc pop.  So do you get the  scam yet???   Open ipo and buy shares of other companies other company owners will buy each others shares  then put up those shares for collateral on more loans to buy more stock.   Stay away.

I think I've been scammed by Btcpop. Please can you tell me if you have any updates on them?

are they are automatic withdrawal from your first withdrawal? But if your withdrawal now are all pending well that the bad sign that btcpop are completely running since that is the habit of hyips and why you invested on their? While its talk everyday that all of hyips are scam and never trust any of those eventhough they promise you big earnings because thats their bait to gather more investor to scammed. so better you move on now op since you already invested on their and that is the part of consequences on investing on them. Dont invest on hyips next time.

[silly-boy]

OK, I been monitoring BTCPOP for the last five days, since crazyivan last post.

BTCPOP are having constant withdrawal problems, and today's posts:

"i am depositing a little so hopefully that will help with some withdrawlas" by MRBONG411

and

"wd's are proccessed from incomming deposits... the manual refills of hot wallet are missing but its sunday..." by casimir1904 (who claims to own 13%+ of BTCPOP)

Why do other members need to deposit so someone else can withdraw?
  Is this because they are doing what Full Tilt Poker did, and use members monies for their own personal use.

Going to quote another member..

BTCPOP is a site that has transactions happening all the time, why do they not have full time support.  Why does the owner of this site treat it like a job?  If you are a owner of a site, you do everything you can, all the time.  You lose sleep, hair, and your life to bring this child (site) to maturity, not a 9 to 5 job.

Having issues over the weekend is absolutely no way to run a company, unless you don't give a sh*t about it, and just trying to scam people out of their money.  IMHO, Lee Bartholomew is untrustworthy with these continuous problems (let alone our Bitcoin), and now am questioning the motives of casimir1904 as he always support Mr. Bartholomew.

Seriously, look at chat yourselves for a day or two, you will see all the issues that are not being address in a timely matter.
[/quote   Ian please contact me ASAP.

[Newcoins2020]

yes this site is a total scam.  They bought ardeva from coinsortium owner illegally . Because coinsortium owes 100's in btc to account holders.  How can you buy an asset from a failed exchange ardeva a verifying website from a btc exchange that failed using ardeva to verify owners?? Ardeva failed once already. there is almost no recourse on investing here dont do it.  They charge .25 btc to open an ipo that is a breeding ground for scam companies to pop up.   Btc pop top asset is ardeva and it already has failed it is useless. Try to get money from someone that takes it with ardeva verification . It has not happened yet.    Casmir is now the owner of btcpop he got it from bartholmew.  As for the laons being backed by collateral, go check loans that are backed an what they are backed by.... crummy stcok at btc pop.  So do you get the  scam yet???   Open ipo and buy shares of other companies other company owners will buy each others shares  then put up those shares for collateral on more loans to buy more stock.   Stay away.

I think I've been scammed by Btcpop. Please can you tell me if you have any updates on them?

That's terrible. I wanted to use them to expand my list of trusted sites but now I will not.
You being scammed is a warning to potential users to stay away from this kind of scam sites.These days there are just too many,

[silly-boy]

yes this site is a total scam.  They bought ardeva from coinsortium owner illegally . Because coinsortium owes 100's in btc to account holders.  How can you buy an asset from a failed exchange ardeva a verifying website from a btc exchange that failed using ardeva to verify owners?? Ardeva failed once already. there is almost no recourse on investing here dont do it.  They charge .25 btc to open an ipo that is a breeding ground for scam companies to pop up.   Btc pop top asset is ardeva and it already has failed it is useless. Try to get money from someone that takes it with ardeva verification . It has not happened yet.    Casmir is now the owner of btcpop he got it from bartholmew.  As for the laons being backed by collateral, go check loans that are backed an what they are backed by.... crummy stcok at btc pop.  So do you get the  scam yet???   Open ipo and buy shares of other companies other company owners will buy each others shares  then put up those shares for collateral on more loans to buy more stock.   Stay away.

I think I've been scammed by Btcpop. Please can you tell me if you have any updates on them?

are they are automatic withdrawal from your first withdrawal? But if your withdrawal now are all pending well that the bad sign that btcpop are completely running since that is the habit of hyips and why you invested on their? While its talk everyday that all of hyips are scam and never trust any of those eventhough they promise you big earnings because thats their bait to gather more investor to scammed. so better you move on now op since you already invested on their and that is the part of consequences on investing on them. Dont invest on hyips next time.

No he is in my building, running god knows how many computers and is telling me he is having money problems and cant pay me the £25k he owes me.....

[noormcs5]

yes this site is a total scam.  They bought ardeva from coinsortium owner illegally . Because coinsortium owes 100's in btc to account holders.  How can you buy an asset from a failed exchange ardeva a verifying website from a btc exchange that failed using ardeva to verify owners?? Ardeva failed once already. there is almost no recourse on investing here dont do it.  They charge .25 btc to open an ipo that is a breeding ground for scam companies to pop up.   Btc pop top asset is ardeva and it already has failed it is useless. Try to get money from someone that takes it with ardeva verification . It has not happened yet.    Casmir is now the owner of btcpop he got it from bartholmew.  As for the laons being backed by collateral, go check loans that are backed an what they are backed by.... crummy stcok at btc pop.  So do you get the  scam yet???   Open ipo and buy shares of other companies other company owners will buy each others shares  then put up those shares for collateral on more loans to buy more stock.   Stay away.

I think I've been scammed by Btcpop. Please can you tell me if you have any updates on them?

That's terrible. I wanted to use them to expand my list of trusted sites but now I will not.
You being scammed is a warning to potential users to stay away from this kind of scam sites.These days there are just too many,

Thats really bad to hear that. Too many sites and too many scams. You know whats make me more sad that in all these bunches of scam sites, if one makes a non-scam site to do a real business, no one trust that too.

[Vaagar]

BTC is a scam. They are trying to lure to deposit some btc to your account and use you to lure investor. I did try open an account, have all verified and request for loan. However, a number of investors which i think is same person with multiple account (maybe casimir) is trying to communicate with me. At firsy, it sound to be they are helping you to get funded and they very concern in very provocative manner that they almost no respect at all. I think i noticed, 3-5 investors is talking to me continously, same topic but defferent 5 accounts. Its like these investors has the same mind, collective of accounts with one mind. To make it short, they are trying to put me collateral by depositing some bitcoin on my account as collateral. Example.. trying to loan 600usd but they want me to fund by loan of 400usd by depositing using bitcoin andnaccording to them they will fund the remaining 200usd to complete the 600usd.

Funny guy... His loan request:

Requested - ฿0.10000000 @ 10.00% - 521.43 APR
Payment Frequency: 7 Loan Term: 14 Days

No history,no colleteral .. so nothing.. nobody know you.. you are form the phillipines and requestet a loan with an insane apr of > 500 % for an amount which is about half the avarage monthly income in the phillipines..

95% chance that you will default.. and than start complaining why you dont get fundet.. try your luck on other lending sides.. the lenders on pop aren´t such stupid to look only @ apr..

Maybe you will find someone here who gives you a loan with this terms xD

With great regards

Vaagar - a btcpop investor who doesnt invest in every risky s**t loan

[cesmak]

@kbor3758 whow, what a nice move to revitalize, and old post when OLD OWNER of the site turn out to be a dishonest, so that seem that pop is still a home of scammers....

on 16 June 2016, pop was bought by a new owner, yes, casimir, but he secured all the BTC deposited on site, and started to develop the site to fix bugs and problems, site is alive and stronger than ever, new verification systems, investors here are very proactive in determining the solidity of borrowers, asking, checking and so on, yes, new borrowers are put under pressure, and x-ray analyzed in every aspect, because there is a big group of investors that don't want to loose money on scammers, so for new borrowers, there is a long way to do, to gain trust, and access to much bigger loans, a lot of "experienced" investors, don't look (as Vaagar stated above), only at APR, but at a whole context of the borrower to understand the solidity, and the ability to repay money, seems to you that 5 lenders attacked you in the same way, like af sockpuppet accounts of only one entity, that's wrong, pop investors are real and are a lot, and all knows well what is the path to become a good borrower, so all asks all the same things.

This is pop, and now with the end of BLC and with Jam in bad water too, is the first solid p2p lending site, and investing platform, with a number of features, that other sites don't have.

Altcoin exchange, company shares, with free market, the use of shares and altcoins as collateral for loans (unique feature), bonds, a forum, a chat, and a strong comunity of people that are there by some years...



Me, investor, (but i don't own pop shares) so no economical interests in the site itself, to defend... but i love to see the truth speaking, not false accusations....

[antdee]

Casimir saved all of us POPers by stepping up, and has all our thanks.

Also, thanks to the investors in POP asking good questions and background checking the mass loan requests, great filtering.

And thank you Cesmak for your lending bot!

[tomahawkeer]

BTCPOP is 100% "NOT" a scam!

I have been a member there for well over a year, I have taken out several loans, and I have paid them all back. I have also invested in several of the IPO / share opportunities there, which is what is mostly used for collateral when asking for loans.

The site was taken over by Cas almost a year ago because the old owner was about to run off with a LOT of peoples money (his name is previously mentioned in this thread). Long story short, BTC Pop is NOT a scam. There are several members there that tend to make up the majority of the investments with a larger amount of people who also invest smaller amounts. Withdraws work, which was NOT the case when the previous was running the site, however they are manual. Cas does them himself, at least BTC withdraws. Alt coin withdraws are automated I believe.

[crviale2000]

Scamers do not lend money. I have 2  loans that I am paying one for 0.05 and one for 0.10. Some days ago I saw a loan of 30 btc without guarantees that was founded. If someone wants to know the truth just go to the site and ask anyone who has obtained a loan if they had any problem in withdrawing the money.

[Casimir1904]

yes this site is a total scam.  They bought ardeva from coinsortium owner illegally . Because coinsortium owes 100's in btc to account holders.  How can you buy an asset from a failed exchange ardeva a verifying website from a btc exchange that failed using ardeva to verify owners?? Ardeva failed once already. there is almost no recourse on investing here dont do it.  They charge .25 btc to open an ipo that is a breeding ground for scam companies to pop up.   Btc pop top asset is ardeva and it already has failed it is useless. Try to get money from someone that takes it with ardeva verification . It has not happened yet.    Casmir is now the owner of btcpop he got it from bartholmew.  As for the laons being backed by collateral, go check loans that are backed an what they are backed by.... crummy stcok at btc pop.  So do you get the  scam yet???   Open ipo and buy shares of other companies other company owners will buy each others shares  then put up those shares for collateral on more loans to buy more stock.   Stay away.

I think I've been scammed by Btcpop. Please can you tell me if you have any updates on them?

That's terrible. I wanted to use them to expand my list of trusted sites but now I will not.
You being scammed is a warning to potential users to stay away from this kind of scam sites.These days there are just too many,

Thats really bad to hear that. Too many sites and too many scams. You know whats make me more sad that in all these bunches of scam sites, if one makes a non-scam site to do a real business, no one trust that too.

As bad as false Scam accusations.
People keep falling for scams and the real business suffers from it.

Posted on the BTCPop Forums on the day I became owner:
Posted 19-06-2016 20:26:47

New coldwallet of BTCPOP: https://blockchain.info/address/1PPADLQsQoWfn4i24uNQxC8kYbA3PtzwWJ

Signed Message: New BTCPOP Coldwallet - Casimir1904
Signature: GyA8sWhLGjFBxfocROQ99/HlV73eGdELb2KGKoFUrbNfibryXq2rCUp0uPtmi4TMWHHiK61pnmSPRr0kz/O5LzU=
Address used for signing: 1PPADLQsQoWfn4i24uNQxC8kYbA3PtzwWJ

Since I own BTCPop a lot money left the site and as you can see not a single Satoshi of the Coldwallet was used.
The previous owner "lost" all coins and users was waiting for weeks and some even for months to get their coins.
I even helped them to get money out before owning pop with taking Vouchers from them and sending Bitcoins from my wallet.
Only that way I Cashed out more than 400 BTC.

Number of Pop members doubled. Loan volume is increasing. Defaults are decreasing even with increasing BTC price.
Bugs get fixed.
Worst problems was solved 5 Days after take over.

[Bees Brothers]

Enjoyed the site when I first started using it (except for investing in L33), loved it more after Casimir took over.  And it gets better every day.

[Borgminer]

btcpop is ok .  their admin is a douche .  old owner did run away with a lot of btc .  site all around is good

[Casimir1904]

btcpop is ok .  their admin is a douche .  old owner did run away with a lot of btc .  site all around is good

Your account on btcpop wont be unlocked.
You say on Getline that pop has stolen lot coins of users. Where exactly did that happen?
Lee stolen/lost all coins. I covered all user balances with my own money and currently the cold wallet holds nearly 3x the amount of what users are holding on POP.

You're spreading lies, You're accusing me to scam with Lee.
You're acting like a child all the time, attacking and insulting users all the time on pop and then you complain about getting banned.
You was searching for more than a year for a reason to not pay your defaulted loans.
You can still repay your loans. Your loans are in liquidation, all coins in your account will be used to do part payments on your loans.
You have your deposit address, you can prove to others that you sent coins if they claim you're not paying. No trust needed to me or whoever.

And yes i know you've a lot reasons to not trust me.
I was a Investor in your Jam loans and Pop loans, i warned you about ponzi sites and I helped you a lot with advising.
You called me more than once Hitler and Nazi ( For Libertarian views and warning you about ponzis ).
You accuse me for scamming when I've put a lot money in POP to safe POP.
You accuse me for scamming with Lee where i've lost more than a Million USD to Lee.
You tell me what I should do and not do.
You don't care about others where you've stolen money from.

Yes you have all reason to not trust me.

I wish you a nice live and nice dreams, may your actions do all the good to you, you deserve.

[Borgminer]

false . you have been an investor in my past loans .  you have given some small advice on sites when i was just getting into bitcoin .  but where you are wrong is about jam and pop . I dont care how many coins you have .  you are dishonest person who spread lies . i have kept my loan updated on what is going on by telling people what is going on . you send your admin team to harass me and troll me .  you arent the only one with coins .  other people have coins . you arent my friend .  i have friends who understand my situation .  you might of saved me from losing one or 2 bitcoins . but i would of save you hundreds .  I called lee on his scam . and you mocked me .   You denied me access to pay my loan on pop when i have stated to my investors offline and on pop when ill be making payments . The people who have invested understood they just wanted me to pay it back .  though it has been a small amount it has been going down which i have said it will pick up .  You made it worse.   not only that but my loan was fully covered with collateral. I informed btcpop that i couldnt pay my loan to please sell my collateral to pay off the loan. I have also even asked to consoldate my loans on pop and to use my collaterol as payment and loan would of been locked in POP  .  Answer was no we have to wait for your to default ?    I defaulted .  Lee and Dom had a falling out . instead of freezing the bbs shares to get the issues resolved  between lee and dom  they let the shares tank. now keep in mind I asked for my collaterol to be sold long before this happened .   So they waited and let my shares become worthless .    Then I had hash power on POP as well .  They dump sold it to 10 percent of what is was actilly worth.   Shortly after all the fiscal Cas then somehow owns pop . And wouldnt do anything to work with me . 

[Borgminer]

SHould people trust pop ? no   admins and mods their are very shady . Should people use the platform ? yes the way it is implement is great .  You can bash me all you want casmir .  I keep people informed and do what I can to repay my debt . you make it hard to pay my debt .

[antdee]

So you bought BBS and MINEb shares, collateral locked them in your loan, shares turned out to be worthless and its Casimir's fault.

Yes, casimir, with his signed cold wallet balance covering three times all POP users balances, is 'very shady'.

POP hasn't made it harder to pay your debts, all you have to do is deposit to your address, liquidation script will do the rest.