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March 01, 2013, 08:47:31 PM Last edit: January 30, 2014, 08:44:18 PM by Cognitive Cryptography |
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Greetings! After extensive weeks of private alpha testing and a few days of further alpha testing with a few selected applicants, we have finally launched our VPN! It is located at http://vpn.ccrypto.org/We take PayPal, and Bitcoin, and have plans starting from €2/0.0025BTC a month, WITHOUT having to buy 12 months at a time. We do not log any of your browsing, and you can even review our code on GitHub. If you have any questions, especially how to install the VPN, consult our help section. If this fails, you can join us on IRC, #ccrypto on freenode, though we may be asleep. You can also message this account. Update: We now offer a free 3 days trial! just ask here, by email or on IRC to get one.We also recently fixed multiple issues and have a new affiliate program! http://ccrypto.org/vpn-home.png
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March 01, 2013, 09:16:45 PM |
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I was one of the beta testers, +1 from me, works great
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March 01, 2013, 09:23:28 PM Last edit: March 02, 2013, 12:34:03 PM by Cubox |
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Yeah,
As a beta tester, I confirm that the service work. Bandwidth tests was amazing, not slow at all! The website gives you a .tlbk file, for Mac. Just what I need. I'm happy with it!
Andy "Cubox" Pilate
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March 02, 2013, 03:04:58 AM |
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The payment was done through Mt Gox, and the service is quite awesome. I'm pretty sure that the speeds were limited on my side too - +1 to Ccrypto VPN.
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March 02, 2013, 04:29:13 AM |
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Setting up the VPN was really easy. Just create an account (you don't even need an email), pay for it, download the configuration files, and you're done. I tested using paypal as payment, and it went through fine with no hiccups.
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March 02, 2013, 06:46:29 AM |
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I'll buy a subscription later, this service looks great.
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March 02, 2013, 11:27:20 AM |
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Fixed a bug in our payment system asking for 0.2 btc when €2 worth of btc is actually around 0.075 btc.
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March 02, 2013, 12:39:33 PM |
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I now see you don't keep any logs and usage cannot be traced back to you.
Is it not possible this could be LE trying to snoop on us all? I know this is over-the-top slightly but if they controlled a few VPNs then they could follow exactly what you did, even though you thought you were anonymous? Im merely interested and not accusing in the slightest!
If the feedback coming in remains good, Ill consider joining too.
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March 02, 2013, 02:29:59 PM |
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I now see you don't keep any logs and usage cannot be traced back to you.
Is it not possible this could be LE trying to snoop on us all? I know this is over-the-top slightly but if they controlled a few VPNs then they could follow exactly what you did, even though you thought you were anonymous? Im merely interested and not accusing in the slightest!
If the feedback coming in remains good, Ill consider joining too.
Interesting thought. The way we see it, is, arn't you snooped on all the time anyway? Google logs all your usage data and possibly Google drive files, and Facebook has been proven to track your data even outside of their site. I'm sure most of us regularly use Google and Facebook, so wouldn't it be much easier for the LE to buy your data from them and others? Both Google and Facebook have not been known to sell data, but what makes them any more trustworthy than us? Because they are a big corporation? If anything, that makes them more open to secret deals, or rouge employees who have access to the data. Countless corporations have done it in the past, and there are many places you can go to, to find extensive information on a person. Cognitive Cryptography is run by 2 people, only 1 of which has access to HaiPeng, our VPN server; and by extension any "logs" we may keep. Everything I do that concerns the company is disclosed on irc, and the same with JackSparrow. If he went rouge, I would be the first to report. Using our VPN is, given, risky because although we say we don't log your data, we always could. But we are no less risky than any other VPN. And plus, its more risky using Facebook and Google because they are GUARANTEED to log your data. Google now has free internet, there is no reason why they won't log all of your browsing data from that. There are even companies that store all tweets on twitter ever made, and even keep deleted tweets. There is software available to keep your own twitter logs for large scale crown analysis. Twitter has millions upon millions of daily users, CCVPN has no hope of achieving anywhere near a million. Why spend your time and money setting up a VPN company when you can access twitter logs for free(from, I dare say, a large amount of less technically, and by extension, privacy inclined users, who probably disclose a lot more about themselves than the average Bitcoin user?)? Citations (in order of being mentioned): http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-evil-side-of-google-exploring-googles-user-data-collectionhttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#section_1http://m.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/feb/16/mobile-phone-internet-advertisinghttp://readwrite.com/2012/04/26/here-are-20-companies-who-sell-your-data-how-to-stop-themhttp://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/alternatives-to-twapper-keeper/Interesting links: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-to-stop-facebook-from-tracking-you-2012-9?op=1startpage.com - startpage logs all Google search data, then let's you search it. You get the same search results as Google, but without the logs. Phew, that took me over an hour. HectorBarbossa.
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March 02, 2013, 06:55:17 PM |
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I now see you don't keep any logs and usage cannot be traced back to you.
Is it not possible this could be LE trying to snoop on us all? I know this is over-the-top slightly but if they controlled a few VPNs then they could follow exactly what you did, even though you thought you were anonymous? Im merely interested and not accusing in the slightest!
If the feedback coming in remains good, Ill consider joining too.
Interesting thought. The way we see it, is, arn't you snooped on all the time anyway? Google logs all your usage data and possibly Google drive files, and Facebook has been proven to track your data even outside of their site. I'm sure most of us regularly use Google and Facebook, so wouldn't it be much easier for the LE to buy your data from them and others? Both Google and Facebook have not been known to sell data, but what makes them any more trustworthy than us? Because they are a big corporation? If anything, that makes them more open to secret deals, or rouge employees who have access to the data. Countless corporations have done it in the past, and there are many places you can go to, to find extensive information on a person. Cognitive Cryptography is run by 2 people, only 1 of which has access to HaiPeng, our VPN server; and by extension any "logs" we may keep. Everything I do that concerns the company is disclosed on irc, and the same with JackSparrow. If he went rouge, I would be the first to report. Using our VPN is, given, risky because although we say we don't log your data, we always could. But we are no less risky than any other VPN. And plus, its more risky using Facebook and Google because they are GUARANTEED to log your data. Google now has free internet, there is no reason why they won't log all of your browsing data from that. There are even companies that store all tweets on twitter ever made, and even keep deleted tweets. There is software available to keep your own twitter logs for large scale crown analysis. Twitter has millions upon millions of daily users, CCVPN has no hope of achieving anywhere near a million. Why spend your time and money setting up a VPN company when you can access twitter logs for free(from, I dare say, a large amount of less technically, and by extension, privacy inclined users, who probably disclose a lot more about themselves than the average Bitcoin user?)? Citations (in order of being mentioned): http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-evil-side-of-google-exploring-googles-user-data-collectionhttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#section_1http://m.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/feb/16/mobile-phone-internet-advertisinghttp://readwrite.com/2012/04/26/here-are-20-companies-who-sell-your-data-how-to-stop-themhttp://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/alternatives-to-twapper-keeper/Interesting links: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-to-stop-facebook-from-tracking-you-2012-9?op=1startpage.com - startpage logs all Google search data, then let's you search it. You get the same search results as Google, but without the logs. Phew, that took me over an hour. HectorBarbossa. Yes, you have good points about google, facebook and twitter but I doubt anyone who wants to stay anonymous (and you do advertise yourselves clearly as being a highly anonymous service) going to be logging into social media sites using a VPN. That sort of defeats the purpose IMO of staying anonymous lol. The only way to really secure yourself from any VPN from knowing your connections is to do: Tor ----> VPN ------> Tor (VM) But yes it is an interesting thought, especially considering VPNs are doing a lot of damage concerning copyright infringement, such as torrent downloading. So I personally would tend to trust the older VPNs as: 1. They have stood the test of time 2. I think it unlikely a VPN being around for a long time is rogue or LE. I wish you all the best with your new business though.
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March 03, 2013, 04:11:55 PM |
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Hi bluedye, actually, you're right: We can't prove we do not log anything. But anyway, neither can your ISP, or the owners of every routers you use. We do log things, for technical purpose only, and this is not stored and will never be used or sold for anything, because our customers pay for their anonymity and a secure tunnel. If you really want absolute anonymity, do not use our VPN. Do not use a VPN. Maybe don't even use the Internet. The only way to really secure yourself from any VPN from knowing your connections is to do:
Tor ----> VPN ------> Tor (VM)
Tor is one the best solution to be completely anonymous on the Internet, and a VPN with Tor is completely useless. 1. They have stood the test of time 2. I think it unlikely a VPN being around for a long time is rogue or LE.
I wish you all the best with your new business though.
HideMyAss has been around for a long time, trusted by many people, ... Look at that: http://blog.hidemyass.com/2011/09/23/lulzsec-fiasco/How could they protect privacy if they do not allow *everything* ? They can't. Everyone, sign up and ask us on IRC if you want a free week to try it. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) - the captain JackSparrow.
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March 03, 2013, 04:47:29 PM |
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Trial period was too short for me to test security, but I was able to test speeds (fast! limited by my end, not theirs) and the external IP address, which changed while using the service. I was also able to set up the VPN on my Android phone.
The service was smooth, and the MtGox checkout worked well.
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March 03, 2013, 04:49:52 PM |
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Hidemyass is far from being secure. If you need absolute security choose some Russian double VPN
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March 03, 2013, 04:56:07 PM |
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Where are your servers located and in which country do the operators of this service reside in? Because the .com domain is under the US jurisdiction...
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March 03, 2013, 04:58:47 PM |
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How fast is the vpn? EDIT: Oh i see now
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Why are you just staring at this? Just send it! 1MHZjADM41ttjbPUiTPYWGYGm45XLf8ZeS
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March 03, 2013, 05:10:58 PM |
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Where are your servers located and in which country do the operators of this service reside in? Because the .com domain is under the US jurisdiction...
We have one server in France, we will get more as we have more users. Nothing is stored on the VPN server, user data and website are on another server at different ISP. The VPN can still work without the .com domain, even without DNS if we have problems with that. - JackSparrow
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March 03, 2013, 05:16:13 PM |
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Where are your servers located and in which country do the operators of this service reside in? Because the .com domain is under the US jurisdiction...
the worst US courts can do is shut the domain down
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March 03, 2013, 06:53:35 PM |
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Where are your servers located and in which country do the operators of this service reside in? Because the .com domain is under the US jurisdiction...
the worst US courts can do is shut the domain down In case of a serious breach of law can't they prosecute the owners of the domain and ask to hand their clients' data if the owners of Cognitive Cryptography live in US? EDIT: OK, I see, they would have to contact the Malaysian govt. first.
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March 03, 2013, 07:33:01 PM |
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Where are your servers located and in which country do the operators of this service reside in? Because the .com domain is under the US jurisdiction...
the worst US courts can do is shut the domain down In case of a serious breach of law can't they prosecute the owners of the domain and ask to hand their clients' data if the owners of Cognitive Cryptography live in US? EDIT: OK, I see, they would have to contact the Malaysian govt. first. What data ? Usernames ? MtGox transaction ids ? We only store safe things, that would not even be a problem. - JackSparrow
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