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May 24, 2016, 07:20:22 AM
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Spoetnik and Roach are Bitcoin maximalists and you can use this info to....determine how threatened they feel by any altcoin. If they praise or ignore the coin, then it is no threat. If they attack the coin, they feel threatened by it--you can see their level of fear raise or lower by the coin's popularity in threads or the growth of marketcap. While I feel that roach's attacks are more technically sound, they do move towards emotional appeals as the threat level increases. Spoetnik's attacks are usually of a prodding/provoking nature and are generally of a low quality to noise ratio--classic trolling.

If anyone could create a spoetnik/roach fear index based on the correlation of their positive, negative and combined post output, I'd be interested. Seems they put most of their effort into ETH and XMR currently.

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Is XMR a threat to bitcoin? No don't think so

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May 24, 2016, 07:32:48 AM
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They're a couple of baw sacks with the same intelligence and humour. Good to pin this thread as a warning to others of their motivations behind their FUD.

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May 24, 2016, 07:38:22 AM
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Spoetnik's posts are actually quite fun to read. I don't think he feels threatened by any coin.
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May 24, 2016, 07:53:43 AM
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Is XMR a threat to bitcoin? No don't think so

it must be. XMR is just a known by everybody as its the first to introduce the untraceable protocol.
XMR just didn't reached those who might be interested but once bitcoin will lose its value due to eth and DAO, XMR might gradually come to scene and can potential be used by shady guys  Grin to which bitcoin also started.

Spoetnik and Roach ravings can be a good indicator for traders  Grin



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May 24, 2016, 09:37:10 AM
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They're a couple of baw sacks with the same intelligence and humour. Good to pin this thread as a warning to others of their motivations behind their FUD.

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May 24, 2016, 03:16:00 PM
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Spoetnik's posts are actually quite fun to read. I don't think he feels threatened by any coin.

Thank you and i hope at least *some* of them are.
I hope to say something interesting sadly i get long winded and verbose though sorry guys Wink

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i have dealt with you lots before for a loooong time and ALWAYS about Monero.
You don't post about anything here except Monero defense.. usually crying Troll / FUD.
So no surprise here we go yet again.

I think people would know me as the guy who is constantly pushing Crypto
to step back and look at the bigger picture.. AKA: The context of the entire situation.
So in reality i don't care so much about any one coin for or against.

I also don't even have any coins because i simply gave them away to a developer.

But we ALL agree Bitcoin is king.
It is the benchmark which we ALL compare Altcoins to.. this is not exclusive to Roach & i.

You missed the part here where we seen thousands of coins made that have definitely contributed to staining Bitcoin.
A nasty vulgar scammy Altcoin scene does nothing for any aspect of Crypto.
It gives all of it a bad reputation.
Yet you all seem to think you can plant a rose in sea of shit then pretend your not surrounded by crap.
When you make ANOTHER coin and another attempt at the ANON "gimmick"
Then yes you do in fact deserve to be criticized..
Did Monero solve a problem and improve on Bitcoin ?
I personally think NO ..i think it was a step in reverse.

So by all means share your opinions.. just quit crying Troll and making up foolish FUD agenda's.
I grow tired off being told i am a paid FUD'er because i hold Dash coins or something.
When all i have tried to do is take each coin on an objective over-view style stance.

Little Miss "Fungability" here spews nothing but Failed pitiful Monero defense attacks
when ever dirt gets posted about Monero and that says lots about you and your motivations not mine shill.
Like generalizethis.. did you put in your first post here the only reason you made this topic
is because your a Monero shill and us two guys have criticized your shit coin Monero ?
Nope.. you avoided mentioning that in an attempt to skew things and portray us as a monster.
Do you think Monero is immune to criticism ?

In case people are wondering i have had a loooong history of putting this Monero shill in his place.
We have gone back & forth 100+ times and ALWAYS over Monero.
He sees something i said about it then runs around bad mouthing me etc.
Funny how he did not mention that at all in his first post here.. i suppose he forgot huh ?

He never has won any debate on anything and i honestly think he is pretty dumb.
He does not have the tools needed to defend Monero and always just ends up digging a hole making things worse.

So yeah let's have a big stickied warning saying ohh well anyone who criticizes Monero is a "Troll"
Sadly you shills can not self moderate the whole entire internet and people's private thoughts..
over your "Anon" coin LOL
Kind of funny the people who push the ANON bullshit the hardest are Crypto's biggest proponents of censorship  Roll Eyes

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May 24, 2016, 03:23:53 PM
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i don't know why people are trying so hard to say an altcoin is a threat to bitcoin or an altcoin is going to replace bitcoin!

that is so stupid in my opinion!

because an altcoin even if it is good and can get enough attention to become big (as big as bitcoin) there is no reason why it can not exist with bitcoin at the same time, why should be any replacing anyways?!!

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So now I'm "anti-monero" just because I told people in the Monero thread thread that trying to pump an altcoin during the Bitcoin halving is about the dumbest idea possible?  All alts are going down for Bitcoin halving, especially since the Bologniex casino trades as an index now.  It will just be a sea of red.  Save your chance to raise the market cap when the market winds are actually behind you instead of pissing into a 100km headwind.  

Every altcoiner has two choices:  try to shill against BTC praying that some of it's market cap will go to your altcoin, or just allow Bitcoin to have another bubble which would likely bring in far more money and adoption for altcoins than just shilling against BTC.  You're probably playing the wrong hand.

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May 24, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
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r0ach is on ignore because of all the worthless posts, speotnik at least posts neat walls of text for entertainment purposes. how can you measure everything by the same yardstick?
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May 24, 2016, 04:40:22 PM
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What's a maximalist?  Never heard that term before.  Opposite of minimalist?

I've had Spoetnik on ignore for the last year.  He and gleb gamow were spamming one of the threads about Cryptsy, and it was just ridiculous.  Roach I don't mind.  His posts are inflammatory but I wouldn't exactly call it trolling.

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We all contribute to this community in our unique ways. As much as you guys dog roach, he's a good guy in my opinion. Same with Spoetnik. I'm not saying this is the case, I only reserve ignore for those that don't contribute anything meaningful. To censor someone just because I don't agree with their opinions seems, well, shortsighted. I would be remiss to limit rational discussion in this place, there is so little of it, it is a gift when it presents itself.

Separate your emotions from your money. There is no poor discourse if it leads to greater understanding in the end.

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We all contribute to this community in our unique ways. As much as you guys dog roach, he's a good guy in my opinion. Same with Spoetnik. I'm not saying this is the case, I only reserve ignore for those that don't contribute anything meaningful. To censor someone just because I don't agree with their opinions seems, well, shortsighted. I would be remiss to limit rational discussion in this place, there is so little of it, it is a gift when it presents itself.

Good post. Anyway sadly the r0ach thinks that you're worthless if you've ever even traded an ICO coin. Don't know if you can call that a good guy. I see your point though

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Good post. Anyway sadly the r0ach thinks that you're worthless if you've ever even traded an ICO coin.

We've reached peak IPO scam and it's time for them to all die because none of those PoS, recursive systems even fit the category of decentralized currency in the first place.  They're selling the equivalent of stocks of a centralized company illegally while claiming it's a decentralized currency.  They're flat out scams.  Come from Beyond is the one that started the Cambrian explosion of IPO scams with NXT.  It's no coincidence he's back again promoting even more IPO scams for centralized currencies now.

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May 24, 2016, 05:27:58 PM
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We have reached peak IPO scam and it's time for them to all die because none of those PoS recursive systems even fit the category of decentralized currency in the first place.  They're selling the equivalent of stocks of a centralized company illegaly while claiming it's a decentralized currency.  They are flat out scams.  Come from Beyond is the one that started the Cambrian explosion of IPO scams with NXT.  It's no coincidence he's back again promoting even more IPO scams for centralized currencies now.

Of course, you are aware that "scam" = "innovative technology" on these boards? Not "scam" = "coin roach didn't invest into" as you think.
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May 24, 2016, 05:28:57 PM
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Good post. Anyway sadly the r0ach thinks that you're worthless if you've ever even traded an ICO coin.

We have reached peak IPO scam and it's time for them to all die because none of those PoS recursive systems even fit the category of decentralized currency in the first place.

Deep down you know they (the Innovators) will never die. That's why your frustration can not be cured.

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May 24, 2016, 05:30:55 PM
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We have reached peak IPO scam and it's time for them to all die because none of those PoS recursive systems even fit the category of decentralized currency in the first place.  They're selling the equivalent of stocks of a centralized company illegaly while claiming it's a decentralized currency.  They are flat out scams.  Come from Beyond is the one that started the Cambrian explosion of IPO scams with NXT.  It's no coincidence he's back again promoting even more IPO scams for centralized currencies now.

Of course, you are aware that "scam" = "innovative technology"

Come from Beyond issuing IPO scams for centralized currencies is not innovative, I'm sorry to inform you.

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May 24, 2016, 05:32:07 PM
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We have reached peak IPO scam and it's time for them to all die because none of those PoS recursive systems even fit the category of decentralized currency in the first place.  They're selling the equivalent of stocks of a centralized company illegaly while claiming it's a decentralized currency.  They are flat out scams.  Come from Beyond is the one that started the Cambrian explosion of IPO scams with NXT.  It's no coincidence he's back again promoting even more IPO scams for centralized currencies now.

Of course, you are aware that "scam" = "innovative technology"

Come from Beyond issuing IPO scams for centralized currencies is not innovative, I'm sorry to inform you.

Deep down you know they (the Innovators) will never die. That's why your frustration can not be cured.

Ethereum is bigger than you could ever be and you know that. Real animals eat cockroaches as a snack.

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May 24, 2016, 05:32:45 PM
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Come from Beyond issuing IPO scams for centralized currencies is not innovative, I'm sorry to inform you.

I expected your reply to be funnier. Looks like you are tired, I'm stopping teasing you for today.

PS: I got that you were talking about Bitcoin.
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May 24, 2016, 05:35:24 PM
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Good post. Anyway sadly the r0ach thinks that you're worthless if you've ever even traded an ICO coin.

We have reached peak IPO scam and it's time for them to all die because none of those PoS recursive systems even fit the category of decentralized currency in the first place.  They're selling the equivalent of stocks of a centralized company illegaly while claiming it's a decentralized currency.  They are flat out scams.  Come from Beyond is the one that started the Cambrian explosion of IPO scams with NXT.  It's no coincidence he's back again promoting even more IPO scams for centralized currencies now.
Many of these supergeeks were likely bullied when they were coming up through school and some of them in this space have a vendetta complex to exact financial punishment on others to get their revenge from yesteryear. The shills that help them pull off their heist are just as bad. That said, I don't have issues w/ people trading altcoins but to just know what they're getting themselves into.
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