Miningsweden.se no Payouts since 2016-05-14 - SCAM

[Hausi]

haha he wants to frighten you, how cute.

if he makes your data public, you can get way more money from him

[crazyivan]

Wait, wait. So he does not pay and if you report him, he ll post all your personal info online and you will the one who s guilty?

Damn, LTCgear, all over again.


People, sorry for your loss.

[Hausi]

Wait, wait. So he does not pay and if you report him, he ll post all your personal info online and you will the one who s guilty?

Damn, LTCgear, all over again.


People, sorry for your loss.

i wasnt into that LTCgear thing, can you sum this up for me in a few sentences ? thanks

[GoldenHamster]

First he is not frighten me. He is just stupid.
And right, he will get a Penalty for threatening.

According to him the Police will find a lots of miner.
What was he doing today?
I hope mining. Of course in his pocket.

I just asked him to delete my account after he sent me half a dozen of s7. ( which could also be 5)
Thats all. I am not angry with him. It is just Business.

And if he is not doing so maybe the Police is.

And scamming from a Country like Sweden is really really stupid.

[GoldenHamster]

and Folks, why to let People always go away like that.
I have Kids to feed. I never expect a fortune from Tommy.
Just paying what can be hashed. Thats all.
With VIP contracts you are owner of Computer Hardware.
Paypal should refund within half an year of buying it.

Swedish Chamber of Commerce you find under Google in your homecountry.
I am living in Switzerland. And they are very friendly.

Information about announcing fraud you find under:
https://polisen.se/
choose your language

but I did not find the online form.
So I have to call them but still hope Tommy are making some deals with me or maybe us.

[sbtctalk]

I asked Tommy MiningSweden for refund according my VIP contracts in money or Miner or I will inform the Swedish Authorities about his business behavior what I did (bcse I did not get an answer) in my homecountry and they immediately found the company and suggested me to open a fraud case as soon as possible with the Police in Sweden and gave me the necessary information and I explained to Tommy how the story is going on and he repeated on my email (seems to be a wonder) as follows:

 
---- "Tommy - MiningSweden.se" <tommy@miningsweden.se> schrieb:
> Hello Tom,
>
> Well if you do something like that the police will find a lot of miners
> and also see all the papers and business so it will not make any difrens
> more then that I then need to close down all operation even to try to
> continue paying out the users at least to the halving, also having a
> plan to see if I can get the other income bas to cover even payouts
> after the halving but I don't know how it will look for it then.
>
> BUT if you want to do this it is up to you, as a thank you if you do it
> I will post all your personal information with adress, phone number and
> email soo ALL users that you have made loose the rest of their payouts
> that they will have can thank you for fucking it up for them more then
> it is.
>
> My ambition is to payout all the payouts as I have stated.
>
> And Magnus has nothing to do with this, he just helped send the miners
> to you.
>
> And by the way, it is people like you that has made me close down since
> you are not worth the energy.
>
> So please, don't mess this up for all the other users.
>
> And about your information 7000 clients is a bit incorrect, well we have
> 7000+ registered users but only around 10-15% of them are customers and
> most of them have bought share for 10-30 usd.
>
> So get your fact right first before you start screaming.
>
> Make your withdraws from the system and I will pay them as we go but if
> I get a call from the police with your name on the report.
>
> ---
> Tommy
> www.miningsweden.se
>
> 2016-05-26 16:44 skrev Tom Fricker:
> > Hi Magnus
> >
> > I did not receive any proposal yet from your part.
> >
> > So I received following information from Swedish Chamber of Commerce.
> >
> > 1.       They are aware of you company.
> >
> > 2.       Around 7000 clients may be an amount of several milions uss.
> >
> > 3.       The advised me to open a fraud case on polisen.se
> >
> > Therefore I expect you by today a proposal as in my email yesterday.
> >
> > Otherwise I will open a fraud case tomorrow online on polisen.se
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Thomas

So he had to shut down because me (and probably some others) but has a lot of miners which the police will find.

So if Tommy will not refund with miners maybe the police will do.

If anyone will have my address feel free to ask and I publish her.

And regarding the s5 Miners.
He wanted me to give Hash. I refused, informed Paypal and after that I send me 1 S5 Miner and 1 S7 Miner.

So feel free to ask about address of mine if you really believe this person will pay bitcoin later or fight to get at least some S7 miners as compensation.

Hi GoldenHamster, I am a victim of MS as well. I am astonished to see the attitude that MS behaved towards you. You may want to read my encounter in previous postings.

[sbtctalk]

Wait, wait. So he does not pay and if you report him, he ll post all your personal info online and you will the one who s guilty?

Damn, LTCgear, all over again.


People, sorry for your loss.

Please share the story of LTC gear. I am unaware of it too.

[GoldenHamster]

I received following answer of Tommy from MiningSweden.se:

Hello Tom,

well since all I´m sending you will end up in forums we might also include the correct information.

You hade 5 S5 miners at MiningSweden that we hosted for you. When they went down I always gave you more hash rate to your own pool as compensation. Also if a miner broke down that was not usable anymore I gave you a new miner to continue the mining. This I would not have needed to do but I did it anyway to surve you as a customer and to give back as much as possible.
When we closed down the hosting for everyone your contracts where coming to an end and I told you several times that it would not be profitable to mine with the old S5 miners that you hade and that you would wast your money buying new contracts for them.
I never offered you Cloud mining hash for them as you state on the forum.

Also I could have sent you the 5 old S5 miners but instead I offered you
1 old S5 and one S7 miner that is much more economical to mine with for you now.

And in your demands against me you want me to send you a dussin of S7 miners or ells you will go to the police and threatens me with a lot of things.
Your S7 account has 4000 GH of mining capacity so I don't see the connection to a dussin (12 x 4700GH = 56400 GH) of miners.

Aldo since I looked at your account I also found that for some reason your account hadn't got the S5 mining shares deducted from it so thanks for reminding me about your account and now I have cleared out 1500 S5 mining shares that everyone else has been missing for a month.

So I don't see the relevance in your demands against MiningSweden, we have always tried to do our best and pay back as much as possible and also serving your hosted miners to a much greater extent then needed from our point of view.

Bitcoin mining is not a goldmine, even KNC closed down their business yesterday and they where much much bigger then MS. It is hard fore everyone in Mining at the moment and the higher difficulty is killing all mining business as you soon will see the rest of the mining services will also be having problems since no one has a magic formula against this.

What I tried to say to you is that we will try to clear out all the remaining payouts until the halving and to be able to do this we need to get another income basis started and we are working on that.
Also as I have stated the VIP share are still active and if we get the new income running it will also generate VIP payouts for years to come to the users.

You have 550 VIP shares in total, that is 0,005% of the total VIP shares. And I will do my best to get things going again and generate other bitcoin income to MS but If all my energy have to go fighting against threats and demands like this all the time I can close down the company and file for bankruptcy and then everyones investments are totally gone, the VIP share are worthless and I don't have to clear out the payouts that I intend to do over time.

What I tried to tell you is that if I have to close down on this reason the other investors will want to know who did this.

So I´m trying to say stay cool, wait for the payouts and be a part of a change in MS that can generate income on the VIP share for coming years.
But not in Mining since it is dead.

I hope you understand and also accept that you have actually had a nice income from the Mining share you have got even if you maybe not have made a total ROI on them but the VIP shares are still around.

If you need to publish this, please do so in a complete version even if some users on the forums will not read what I say.

I still believe that you are a good guy that can see the big picture that we have been trying our best for the users and also trying to do as much as possible for you and on your hosting of the miners you hade at us.

---
with regards

Tommy
www.miningsweden.se


So, my decision is that I will not involve Police or authorities.
I hope others will follow this opinion.
Probably he is smarter than expected.

But still my feeling is mixed because never ever in my life somebody was concerned about my income like Tommy.

[Hausi]

Got a full refund from PayPal for all the purchases



One answer from paypal:

Wir haben unsere Untersuchung Ihres Falls abgeschlossen und eine
Entscheidung zu Ihren Gunsten getroffen.

Wir konnten $54,60 USD zurückerlangen. Dieser Betrag wird Ihrem
PayPal-Konto gutgeschrieben. Es kann bis zu fünf Werktage dauern, bis der
Betrag in Ihrer Kontoübersicht ausgewiesen wird.

Wenn Ihnen der Verkäufer noch einen weiteren Betrag schuldet, werden wir
alle Anstrengungen unternehmen, um den Restbetrag vom Verkäufer
zurückzuerlangen.


Seien Sie darüber hinaus versichert, dass wir entsprechende Maßnahmen gegen
den Verkäufer ergreifen werden, wenn das PayPal-Konto des Verkäufers für
die Rückzahlung des Ihnen geschuldeten Betrags nicht ausreichend gedeckt
ist; dazu zählt z.B. eine Beschränkung der Kontozugriffsrechte für den
Verkäufer.

rough translation:

We finished our researches with your case and the decision fellt in your favor.

We managed to get $54,60 back. The sum will be credited to your paypal account. This may takes up to 5 days.

If the Seller owe you more Money, we will try our best to get it from him.

You can be sure, that we will take appropriate actions agains the Seller, if the Seller has not enough funds on his account. as example: Limitation of Account Access Rights

[LLec]

another scam mining sites, go to the hell!
I hope more user stop to use this stupid site!!!

@Hausi please post a translation! here it's an international board!

Got a full refund from PayPal for all the purchases



One answer from paypal:

Wir haben unsere Untersuchung Ihres Falls abgeschlossen und eine
Entscheidung zu Ihren Gunsten getroffen.

Wir konnten $54,60 USD zurückerlangen. Dieser Betrag wird Ihrem
PayPal-Konto gutgeschrieben. Es kann bis zu fünf Werktage dauern, bis der
Betrag in Ihrer Kontoübersicht ausgewiesen wird.

Wenn Ihnen der Verkäufer noch einen weiteren Betrag schuldet, werden wir
alle Anstrengungen unternehmen, um den Restbetrag vom Verkäufer
zurückzuerlangen.


Seien Sie darüber hinaus versichert, dass wir entsprechende Maßnahmen gegen
den Verkäufer ergreifen werden, wenn das PayPal-Konto des Verkäufers für
die Rückzahlung des Ihnen geschuldeten Betrags nicht ausreichend gedeckt
ist; dazu zählt z.B. eine Beschränkung der Kontozugriffsrechte für den
Verkäufer.

[Hausi]

another scam mining sites, go to the hell!
I hope more user stop to use this stupid site!!!

@Hausi please post a translation! here it's an international board!

translation added

Just for you to know:
The article in the refund was claimed to paypal as "a service". (not hardware)
In my opinion this was right, i bought 12 months of service and he scammed me after weeks...
Thanks paypal

[sbtctalk]

another scam mining sites, go to the hell!
I hope more user stop to use this stupid site!!!

@Hausi please post a translation! here it's an international board!

translation added

Just for you to know:
The article in the refund was claimed to paypal as "a service". (not hardware)
In my opinion this was right, i bought 12 months of service and he scammed me after weeks...
Thanks paypal

You were successful in your Paypal claims. Congrats. I wasn't so lucky -- Paypal rejected my claims. Perhaps I didn't do it properly. I have already written off the amount and took it as a lesson learnt.

[crazyivan]

another scam mining sites, go to the hell!
I hope more user stop to use this stupid site!!!

@Hausi please post a translation! here it's an international board!

translation added

Just for you to know:
The article in the refund was claimed to paypal as "a service". (not hardware)
In my opinion this was right, i bought 12 months of service and he scammed me after weeks...
Thanks paypal

Very strange. This is the first time I see Paypal actually doing refund for crypto-related services. Great to hear it s actually possible. I thought they hated crypto and therefore punishing anyone investing into crypto businesses.

[Newcoins2020]

Wow this is ging to be a drama. The first time i saw miningsweden advertisements on the old gaw miners forum i knew it would end up bad.. and yes it did end up.. bad.

People should understand, when you have cloud mining, ANY cloud mining there is a middle man which means you always lose...

[sbtctalk]

It is strange Tommy only interacts and tries to resolve matters with GoldenHamster over the matter.

Is it because GH threathened legal actions?

Tommy knows i cannot do anything due to jurisdiction issues.

[GoldenHamster]

Hi (Cloud) Miners

I also got refund from PayPal of uss 559 uss.
Still open Balance of 3900 uss.
VIP Shares means you're invested in the Company what means in the Hardware.

Regarding the correspondences with me and Tommy:
I bought 5 SMiners. He shot them down and did not want to sent them to me.
So I involved PayPal and immediately (after big shouting) he sent 1 s5 and 1 s7 bearing the cost of sendîng.

So, he promised to make payouts before halving. He promise to Profit for years (with our contracts???)

He sold out on his Website all S9 contracts.

So if there is no payout I ask for my VIP right to receive the Hardware. Otherwise there will be legal action.

Also I am very confused about the involving of badbitcoing.org with simple statment: Sadly, Mining Sweden is closing the Mining Farm. They had all the time advertisement of miningsweden.se
And than month later Genesis Mining. Also they suggested free Satoshi of Zebra and Bitcoin. Both of this Website regularly produced trojans download. I informed them about, without reaction.

So, let me ask you what you will do in case of no payouts after halving and keeping Tommy Boys Promis of years of Profit?

He must have Miners which will be running s7 of s9.

[sbtctalk]

Hi (Cloud) Miners

I also got refund from PayPal of uss 559 uss.
Still open Balance of 3900 uss.
VIP Shares means you're invested in the Company what means in the Hardware.

Regarding the correspondences with me and Tommy:
I bought 5 SMiners. He shot them down and did not want to sent them to me.
So I involved PayPal and immediately (after big shouting) he sent 1 s5 and 1 s7 bearing the cost of sendîng.

So, he promised to make payouts before halving. He promise to Profit for years (with our contracts???)

He sold out on his Website all S9 contracts.

So if there is no payout I ask for my VIP right to receive the Hardware. Otherwise there will be legal action.

Also I am very confused about the involving of badbitcoing.org with simple statment: Sadly, Mining Sweden is closing the Mining Farm. They had all the time advertisement of miningsweden.se
And than month later Genesis Mining. Also they suggested free Satoshi of Zebra and Bitcoin. Both of this Website regularly produced trojans download. I informed them about, without reaction.

So, let me ask you what you will do in case of no payouts after halving and keeping Tommy Boys Promis of years of Profit?

He must have Miners which will be running s7 of s9.

How much have you "invested" with Tommy in total?

[turdminer]

i wonder what their excuse is now that BTC is $750...should be able to turn shit back on and pay people out.

[Hausi]

i wonder what their excuse is now that BTC is $750...should be able to turn shit back on and pay people out.

the shit was never turned offline, just mined in tommys pocket
i dont think anyone will see any btc

[BCRG]

hi
read just your posts.
Gave a lot of money to miningsweden - and i hoped to long it would not be scam.

I opened a request to paypal.