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March 05, 2013, 02:12:27 PM
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What people don't realise is that you can always just walk out of the whole system and ignore it.

Going off the grid is a nice idea, but it doesn't really work if you also want to live in a civil society.

The local police only keep the criminals off your back if you keep paying them the local taxes. 

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March 05, 2013, 02:14:47 PM
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I read in sequence, thank you for trying to answer.

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I haven't got the time to teach you how to read a thread in sequence...

I have time to teach you to not unjustly paint Libertarianism in a bad light.
You want "sequence", OK let's start at the top:

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In a simple world of libertarian ideals...

That is already a load of BS. (i.e A typical mindless smear against free markets)
A world of libertarian ideals does not need to be simple. Do you agree?

All the best ideas are simple, just not too simple! Wink



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March 05, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
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A socialist will claim that it is perfect socialism because of it's peer to peer existence.


Socialism is not a voluntary system just because it contains some of the same letters in the same order as "society". It requires state force to operate.

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March 05, 2013, 07:31:39 PM
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A socialist will claim that it is perfect socialism because of it's peer to peer existence.


Socialism is not a voluntary system just because it contains some of the same letters in the same order as "society". It requires state force to operate.

This is a common misconception.  Not to get into some big argument or anything like that but Marx wrote about the "withering away of the state".  I'm no socialist, but I'm just trying to be fair and claim that anyone of any political ideology can justify their use for bitcoin.

Another thing you would read from Marx is the big time "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" quote.  The bitcoin p2p network is exactly this, as are torrents.  Each downloads and transacts as they please, and offer whatever bandwidth they can to help others transact.

Simply claiming that this is an invention for libertarians is a road to nowhere, seeing that not everyone is a libertarian.
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March 05, 2013, 07:41:56 PM
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A socialist will claim that it is perfect socialism because of it's peer to peer existence.


Socialism is not a voluntary system just because it contains some of the same letters in the same order as "society". It requires state force to operate.

This is a common misconception.  Not to get into some big argument or anything like that but Marx wrote about the "withering away of the state".  I'm no socialist, but I'm just trying to be fair and claim that anyone of any political ideology can justify their use for bitcoin.

Another thing you would read from Marx is the big time "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" quote.  The bitcoin p2p network is exactly this, as are torrents.  Each downloads and transacts as they please, and offer whatever bandwidth they can to help others transact.

Simply claiming that this is an invention for libertarians is a road to nowhere, seeing that not everyone is a libertarian.
Well, that's certainly an interesting interpretation of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need." It makes sense, but I doubt that's how Marx originally intended it. I've said it before, and I'll probably say it again later: Socialism works fine, among friends and family. In larger groups, where most of them are strangers, it either ceases being socialism, or it ceases being voluntary.

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