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June 01, 2016, 06:38:03 AM |
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I was tricked. I expected a coin with basic features working smoothly
there were rockets and lamborghinis posted all over advertising this.
I was expecting Caviar but I got a McDonalds hamburger. You see why I'm allowed to feel upset.
thanks for your valuable explanations though.
You wasn't tricked. You were not investing. You made a gift to Max (according to his own words) and got Lisk in return.
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arcanaaerobics
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June 01, 2016, 09:45:38 AM |
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I was tricked. I expected a coin with basic features working smoothly
there were rockets and lamborghinis posted all over advertising this.
I was expecting Caviar but I got a McDonalds hamburger. You see why I'm allowed to feel upset.
thanks for your valuable explanations though.
You wasn't tricked. You were not investing. You made a gift to Max (according to his own words) and got Lisk in return. Many were tricked and bought the hype, who do you think were selling at the first minutes of Lisk launch for 0.028 BTC/Lisk when the majority were unable to access their Lisk webwallets ? A blockchain unable to sustain the small volume of its current userbase, how will it do if more people join in ? no Windows, Mac, Android, iOS wallet clients ? a 101 delegate nodes and the developpers say to not trust any non official nodes, then why make delegate nodes from the beginning ?
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June 01, 2016, 10:06:24 AM |
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A good write up from a neutral standpoint is needed here to show the public what happened and what's really happening. Anyone in the know on what's going on? It would be nice to have the facts out there. Thanks.
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June 01, 2016, 10:38:31 AM |
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Their network is fine, however some of the publicly accessible web wallets are stuck. This comes as no surprise, the Crypti client they cloned wasn't really stable to begin with, the CPU and disk utilization was high with a fully synced blockchain and other minor issues. I am not surprised the Lisk client gets stuck too, they need to polish it more. Ethereum I heard is a resource hog too. Happiness is a moving target.
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Shrikez
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June 01, 2016, 10:41:43 AM |
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I am referring to my comment upthread and replying to the troll calling me butthurt:
I have no skin in this. I don't own any ETH, LSK, Waves, DAO or any other of the recent tsunami of ICO ponzis and I wont. Making money is nice, acting according to ones beliefs is better. You guys do what you want, it's a free world.
For reasons I will not disclose I am in close contact with many different blockchain issues on a daily basis. My statement stands, the LSK daemon and network require some serious work.
Let me close by saying that this applies to the overwhelming majority of altcoins daemons and coin developers would do well to spend more time on creating stable software instead of Powerpoint, Adobe illustrator and social media.
/steps off soapbox
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tokeweed
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June 01, 2016, 10:50:00 AM |
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I am referring to my comment upthread and replying to the troll calling me butthurt:
I have no skin in this. I don't own any ETH, LSK, Waves, DAO or any other of the recent tsunami of ICO ponzis and I wont. Making money is nice, acting according to ones beliefs is better. You guys do what you want, it's a free world.
For reasons I will not disclose I am in close contact with many different blockchain issues on a daily basis. My statement stands, the LSK daemon and network require some serious work.
Let me close by saying that this applies to the overwhelming majority of altcoins daemons and coin developers would do well to spend more time on creating stable software instead of Powerpoint, Adobe illustrator and social media.
/steps off soapbox
There seems to be new blocks constantly. https://explorer.lisk.io/Can you please point out which blocks had problems confirming?
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Shrikez
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June 01, 2016, 11:03:54 AM |
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I am referring to my comment upthread and replying to the troll calling me butthurt:
I have no skin in this. I don't own any ETH, LSK, Waves, DAO or any other of the recent tsunami of ICO ponzis and I wont. Making money is nice, acting according to ones beliefs is better. You guys do what you want, it's a free world.
For reasons I will not disclose I am in close contact with many different blockchain issues on a daily basis. My statement stands, the LSK daemon and network require some serious work.
Let me close by saying that this applies to the overwhelming majority of altcoins daemons and coin developers would do well to spend more time on creating stable software instead of Powerpoint, Adobe illustrator and social media.
/steps off soapbox
There seems to be new blocks constantly. https://explorer.lisk.io/Can you please point out which blocks had problems confirming? My observations are mainly related to the wallet software/daemon. Apologies for my imprecise phrasing, the network seems relatively stable now. Again, I don't have a beef with LSK in particular except for my disagreement with what it stands for, as do many other projects.
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tokeweed
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June 01, 2016, 11:18:48 AM |
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I am referring to my comment upthread and replying to the troll calling me butthurt:
I have no skin in this. I don't own any ETH, LSK, Waves, DAO or any other of the recent tsunami of ICO ponzis and I wont. Making money is nice, acting according to ones beliefs is better. You guys do what you want, it's a free world.
For reasons I will not disclose I am in close contact with many different blockchain issues on a daily basis. My statement stands, the LSK daemon and network require some serious work.
Let me close by saying that this applies to the overwhelming majority of altcoins daemons and coin developers would do well to spend more time on creating stable software instead of Powerpoint, Adobe illustrator and social media.
/steps off soapbox
There seems to be new blocks constantly. https://explorer.lisk.io/Can you please point out which blocks had problems confirming? My observations are mainly related to the wallet software/daemon. Apologies for my imprecise phrasing, the network seems relatively stable now. Again, I don't have a beef with LSK in particular except for my disagreement with what it stands for, as do many other projects.Oh ok... Thanks for clarifying. I understand where you're coming from and I respect it.
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June 01, 2016, 11:25:16 AM |
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I was tricked. I expected a coin with basic features working smoothly
there were rockets and lamborghinis posted all over advertising this.
I was expecting Caviar but I got a McDonalds hamburger. You see why I'm allowed to feel upset.
thanks for your valuable explanations though.
I feel ya dude, agreed
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bitfish
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June 01, 2016, 05:19:33 PM |
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I was tricked. I expected a coin with basic features working smoothly
there were rockets and lamborghinis posted all over advertising this.
I was expecting Caviar but I got a McDonalds hamburger. You see why I'm allowed to feel upset.
thanks for your valuable explanations though.
You wasn't tricked. You were not investing. You made a gift to Max (according to his own words) and got Lisk in return. Many were tricked and bought the hype, who do you think were selling at the first minutes of Lisk launch for 0.028 BTC/Lisk when the majority were unable to access their Lisk webwallets ? A blockchain unable to sustain the small volume of its current userbase, how will it do if more people join in ? no Windows, Mac, Android, iOS wallet clients ? a 101 delegate nodes and the developpers say to not trust any non official nodes, then why make delegate nodes from the beginning ? You have been buying the hype but you haven't been buying into a decent crypto system. There were lots of intelligible postings which were warning against squandering money for a hyped up vapor product. But lots of folks were buying into those nice Lambo pics. Instead of looking under the hood of a system with 2 "developers" and a founder who had abandoned 2 projects before. This is a learning by doing experience. You are allowed making mistakes but you shouldn't repeat the same mistake in the future. Else you might deserve your future losses...
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June 01, 2016, 05:31:06 PM |
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Nice thread...Ethereum scammers with sockpuppet accounts like Minecache are mad nobody is buying their IPO scamcoin, so they blame this other IPO scamcoin Lisk LOL.
what's happening to your crap monero? it got dump hard recently. Nice 300 BTC buy wall for "crap monero." Feel free to short "crap monero" if you want. I'd love to get some low bids filled.
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June 01, 2016, 06:33:32 PM |
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A good write up from a neutral standpoint is needed here to show the public what happened and what's really happening. Anyone in the know on what's going on? It would be nice to have the facts out there. Thanks.
Not much of a write up needed. Basically anyone hodling LISK is getting raped by the devs of an undeveloped network. All bag hodlers need to sell asap.
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June 01, 2016, 06:36:26 PM |
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A good write up from a neutral standpoint is needed here to show the public what happened and what's really happening. Anyone in the know on what's going on? It would be nice to have the facts out there. Thanks.
Not much of a write up needed. Basically anyone hodling LISK is getting raped by the devs of an undeveloped network. All bag hodlers need to sell asap. Looks like their project is abandon and i think waves is the next lisk.. waves now is nearly the same as ethereum.. what do you think for waves?
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Decided to end it with zer0 profit.
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June 01, 2016, 06:43:06 PM |
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A good write up from a neutral standpoint is needed here to show the public what happened and what's really happening. Anyone in the know on what's going on? It would be nice to have the facts out there. Thanks.
Not much of a write up needed. Basically anyone hodling LISK is getting raped by the devs of an undeveloped network. All bag hodlers need to sell asap. Looks like their project is abandon and i think waves is the next lisk.. waves now is nearly the same as ethereum.. what do you think for waves? Waves doesn't fair much better I'm sorry to report. Think about Ethereum and its network effect. Then think about Ethereum and all the great devs and development supporting it. Ethereum is the future. It is what Bitcoin was meant to be. But we've all seen it before with MySpace and Facebook. Don't be left a baghodler.
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A good write up from a neutral standpoint is needed here to show the public what happened and what's really happening. Anyone in the know on what's going on? It would be nice to have the facts out there. Thanks.
Not much of a write up needed. Basically anyone hodling LISK is getting raped by the devs of an undeveloped network. All bag hodlers need to sell asap. Looks like their project is abandon and i think waves is the next lisk.. waves now is nearly the same as ethereum.. what do you think for waves? Waves doesn't fair much better I'm sorry to report. Think about Ethereum and its network effect. Then think about Ethereum and all the great devs and development supporting it. Ethereum is the future. It is what Bitcoin was meant to be. But we've all seen it before with MySpace and Facebook. Don't be left a baghodler. ethoreium is dying, it's so myspace age. lisk and sidechain is the future in crypto. deal with it.
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Even if Lisk network is unreliable it alone won't change its price in a negative way. Check Ethereum reddit, every day 2-3 new posts about not syncing blockchain appear but ETH price only grows.
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Even if Lisk network is unreliable it alone won't change its price in a negative way. Check Ethereum reddit, every day 2-3 new posts about not syncing blockchain appear but ETH price only grows.
I think there is really something wrong with ETH blockchain, its hard to download the entire blockchain without losing peers from time to time. Then you need to restart the client all over again.
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I was tricked. I expected a coin with basic features working smoothly
there were rockets and lamborghinis posted all over advertising this.
I was expecting Caviar but I got a McDonalds hamburger. You see why I'm allowed to feel upset.
thanks for your valuable explanations though.
You wasn't tricked. You were not investing. You made a gift to Max (according to his own words) and got Lisk in return. Many were tricked and bought the hype, who do you think were selling at the first minutes of Lisk launch for 0.028 BTC/Lisk when the majority were unable to access their Lisk webwallets ? A blockchain unable to sustain the small volume of its current userbase, how will it do if more people join in ? no Windows, Mac, Android, iOS wallet clients ? a 101 delegate nodes and the developpers say to not trust any non official nodes, then why make delegate nodes from the beginning ? You have been buying the hype but you haven't been buying into a decent crypto system. There were lots of intelligible postings which were warning against squandering money for a hyped up vapor product. But lots of folks were buying into those nice Lambo pics. Instead of looking under the hood of a system with 2 "developers" and a founder who had abandoned 2 projects before. This is a learning by doing experience. You are allowed making mistakes but you shouldn't repeat the same mistake in the future. Else you might deserve your future losses... I've tried to tell 'em... If I've said it once, I've said it A THOUSAND TIMES!LISK IS BAD NEWS!
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June 02, 2016, 03:37:14 AM |
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Even if Lisk network is unreliable it alone won't change its price in a negative way. Check Ethereum reddit, every day 2-3 new posts about not syncing blockchain appear but ETH price only grows.
I think there is really something wrong with ETH blockchain, its hard to download the entire blockchain without losing peers from time to time. Then you need to restart the client all over again. eth is crap and mist is junk. the eth volume also fake from whales looking to destroy bitcoin reputation. the whole eth project is done long ago.
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