Robots vs Human Who gonna Win in the Future;

[abugseuf]

i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.

[Gronthaing]

i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.

No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.

[helloeverybody]

i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.

No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.

You can see this already in prototypes that try to copy human walking.  The software trys tthousands of  different simulations of how to walk and then finally finds  one that work.   The computer can run this in secondo and then once it finds what it needs to know it  can then physically create its  prototype.  A computer this powerful and aware couldsurpass  what took  humans thousands of years to perfect in literally seconds. 

[Gronthaing]

i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.

No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.

You can see this already in prototypes that try to copy human walking.  The software trys tthousands of  different simulations of how to walk and then finally finds  one that work.   The computer can run this in secondo and then once it finds what it needs to know it  can then physically create its  prototype.  A computer this powerful and aware couldsurpass  what took  humans thousands of years to perfect in literally seconds. 

^ exactly. Maybe the limitation is having to create the physical parts. But that is not very slow either. Much faster than growing a new body. And copying information is enough to teach it everything it needs. But our dependence on the internet and the automation of weapons these days makes it easier for the robots.

Robot can't win. Even if they dominate the world, they would still be the creation of human. Human have evolved using resources in their favor. There were accidents, there would be but Humans will still be superior. Human would create Robots to serve them, The self learning robots with big guns are imaginary.

For now. They learn but in specific areas. Because we don't know how to create general intelligence yet. But no reason to believe it is impossible. Someone may discover how to do it eventually. And it won't be because no one is trying. On the contrary.

[abugseuf]

i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.

No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.

You can see this already in prototypes that try to copy human walking.  The software trys tthousands of  different simulations of how to walk and then finally finds  one that work.   The computer can run this in secondo and then once it finds what it needs to know it  can then physically create its  prototype.  A computer this powerful and aware couldsurpass  what took  humans thousands of years to perfect in literally seconds. 

the artificial intelligence cannot work as proper as the real one can. you can examin the whole universe. human are the superior of all the other creature of God. it is a common says that human is more hard than a mountain and is more soft than snow. so i think an artificial roport cannot defeat the his creator.

[helloeverybody]

i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.

No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.

You can see this already in prototypes that try to copy human walking.  The software trys tthousands of  different simulations of how to walk and then finally finds  one that work.   The computer can run this in secondo and then once it finds what it needs to know it  can then physically create its  prototype.  A computer this powerful and aware couldsurpass  what took  humans thousands of years to perfect in literally seconds. 

the artificial intelligence cannot work as proper as the real one can. you can examin the whole universe. human are the superior of all the other creature of God. it is a common says that human is more hard than a mountain and is more soft than snow. so i think an artificial roport cannot defeat the his creator.

Thats only because we haven't cracked artificial intelligence yet. Once we do computers/robots Will be the superior race. If we do create artificial intelligence then this is evolution working on its own. We have evolved enough to make machines and they are a step ahead of us in evolution. Unfortunately your belief in a god is limiting you.

Imagine a human could transfer their mind from organic to computer, You would remember everything exactly how it happened or however you learned it, When artificial intelligence arrives it will have this ability except in human terms its iq will be unimaginable to us and within seconds of downloading everything human kind has ever learned via the internet it will contain all of human knowledge put together.Its hard to deny that this would be a superior being.

[kryptqnick]

Robots will never replace humans, because there are certain problems with AI even on the theoretical level. Of course, here I mean not the AI we already have in some robots, but the AI which will work like human's. This problem I'm talking about can be understood via the "Chinese room experiment". For those who aren't familiar with it, I'll paste a brief description here:
"suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."

[Jmild1]

Robots will never replace humans, because there are certain problems with AI even on the theoretical level. Of course, here I mean not the AI we already have in some robots, but the AI which will work like human's. This problem I'm talking about can be understood via the "Chinese room experiment". For those who aren't familiar with it, I'll paste a brief description here:
"suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."

The machine don't need a mind to harm people it only needs a creator that code him to be harmful. You know what I'm saying? Those people that want to see the world burn.

[BADecker]

Humans over robots, because the economy will crash shortly, and there will be no robots.

[escrowboy]

Humans over robots, because the economy will crash shortly, and there will be no robots.

How can you even relate it? If there are materials that are require to build robot then even the economic's crash they can still make a robot if they want to.

[BADecker]

Humans over robots, because the economy will crash shortly, and there will be no robots.

How can you even relate it? If there are materials that are require to build robot then even the economic's crash they can still make a robot if they want to.

Too busy foraging for food, or going back to gardening and farming so they can eat, to waste time on robots.

[daarul50]

Once someone finally figures out how to make robots fully aware their evolution will happen 1000s of times faster than human evolution since they will be more intelligent and construct themselves however they can.  Its a no brainer.

if the robot has a brain and a feeling this will be very dangerous for human survival.

[BADecker]

Once someone finally figures out how to make robots fully aware their evolution will happen 1000s of times faster than human evolution since they will be more intelligent and construct themselves however they can.  Its a no brainer.

if the robot has a brain and a feeling this will be very dangerous for human survival.

Well, actually the robots have these. People are the best robots we will ever find.

[Hirose UK]

i think, robots will win at the future 99%
Humans makes Mystakes Robots dont make mystakes rule number one.



WHO YOU THINK HE WILL WIN IN THE NEAR

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robots will win, I think. they've already got humans out of jobs. so many people are jobless now. and of course it's bad for human life if they don't have any job. they can't fulfil their needs.

[Gronthaing]

Robots will never replace humans, because there are certain problems with AI even on the theoretical level. Of course, here I mean not the AI we already have in some robots, but the AI which will work like human's. This problem I'm talking about can be understood via the "Chinese room experiment". For those who aren't familiar with it, I'll paste a brief description here:
"suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."

I believe that thought experiment has a few problems. Two that come to mind: not having a mind like we understand it or thinking like we do doesn't mean much. Shows more a problem with our understanding of those things or the definitions we use to describe them. Not a limit in building systems with a general intelligence. Then one of the things the experiment is saying is there is no set of instructions or actions that produce a mind. But we have a mind. So it is like saying our mind comes from somewhere else. Not the functioning of our bodies. Fine if you believe in gods or something. Maybe not very useful otherwise.

[apep123]

Careful...Pretty sure OP is a robot testing the waters,just look at how he typed this all out!

Yah careful what you say on the internet, what you say can and will be used against you when the machines take over. They're probably making  alist right now.

[escrowboy]

Humans over robots, because the economy will crash shortly, and there will be no robots.

How can you even relate it? If there are materials that are require to build robot then even the economic's crash they can still make a robot if they want to.

Too busy foraging for food, or going back to gardening and farming so they can eat, to waste time on robots.

That's still part of economy man, it's agriculture. And as I told you even the economy crash if there are ways to make things like this and those then there's still a possibility to build something.

[Jmild1]

i think, robots will win at the future 99%
Humans makes Mystakes Robots dont make mystakes rule number one.



WHO YOU THINK HE WILL WIN IN THE NEAR

FUTURE

Write your opinion down below

robots will win, I think. they've already got humans out of jobs. so many people are jobless now. and of course it's bad for human life if they don't have any job. they can't fulfil their needs.

That's right and in the future specific jobs will be replace with robots, I just hope people may get a way to solve people that will get unemployed in the future.

[barbara44]

Robots will never replace humans, because there are certain problems with AI even on the theoretical level. Of course, here I mean not the AI we already have in some robots, but the AI which will work like human's. This problem I'm talking about can be understood via the "Chinese room experiment". For those who aren't familiar with it, I'll paste a brief description here:
"suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."

The machine don't need a mind to harm people it only needs a creator that code him to be harmful. You know what I'm saying? Those people that want to see the world burn.

That's correct Robots coded for destruction can surely win over people. But that's doesn't mean human are defeated by robots. Robots will defeat humans when robots will be working in the factories leaving most of the people jobless creating vast difference among the rich and poor. This will create a huge social-economic collapse.

[kryptqnick]

Robots will never replace humans, because there are certain problems with AI even on the theoretical level. Of course, here I mean not the AI we already have in some robots, but the AI which will work like human's. This problem I'm talking about can be understood via the "Chinese room experiment". For those who aren't familiar with it, I'll paste a brief description here:
"suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."

The machine don't need a mind to harm people it only needs a creator that code him to be harmful. You know what I'm saying? Those people that want to see the world burn.

I can agree with that, but in this case I don't think it is right to say that machines have won, it's rather some people one using robots in this case. What is your opinion on that?