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March 06, 2013, 02:24:30 AM
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good.  maybe now i can get my Crystallex mine back.

My condolences.  I owned KRY for a brief while thinking it was going to get its permit eventually, but was lucky enough to get tired of waiting and exited prematurely with just a small loss.

Unfortunately for Venezuelans and all companies who had their assets expropriated stolen, based on the speech he just gave, the VP shows no signs of being better and might in fact be even worse.
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March 06, 2013, 02:35:38 AM
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I like chocolate milk, therefore... bitcoin going to $100 tomorrow!
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March 06, 2013, 02:37:45 AM
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Chavez would probably support bitcoin if it was explained to him. After all he hated the US banking system and bitcoin gives the power back to the people.

Too bad he was a massive statist.

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March 06, 2013, 03:02:24 AM
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Have you ever considered how many deaths and poor people did democracy make? Give it a thought before calling another system worse ...

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March 06, 2013, 03:09:53 AM
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Chavez would probably support bitcoin if it was explained to him. After all he hated the US banking system and bitcoin gives the power back to the people.

The vice president stated hours before Chavez's death that foreign powers (eg. USA) gave the cancer to Chavez.  It is unlikely such people would look favourably upon bitcoin, a concept very hard to understand for non computer literate people, on a still predominantly USA controlled Internet, published by a mysterious entity that no one has ever met (Satoshi could be a CIA operative!).  Anyway, bitcoin takes away the ultimate in currency control that dictators the world over love.
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March 06, 2013, 03:14:53 AM
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Have you ever considered how many deaths and poor people did democracy make? Give it a thought before calling another system worse ...

Straight to the essence, can't agree more +1

What did the poor man do to y'all?  Cry
socialism did murder about 160 million ppl world wide and Chavez did participate to make that number so there are plenty of reasons to hate him

Obama and Bush killed no less with their conquering military politics around the globe, do you suggest to hate them as well?

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March 06, 2013, 03:31:17 AM
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Chavez would probably support bitcoin if it was explained to him. After all he hated the US banking system and bitcoin gives the power back to the people.

The vice president stated hours before Chavez's death that foreign powers (eg. USA) gave the cancer to Chavez.  It is unlikely such people would look favourably upon bitcoin, a concept very hard to understand for non computer literate people, on a still predominantly USA controlled Internet, published by a mysterious entity that no one has ever met (Satoshi could be a CIA operative!).  Anyway, bitcoin takes away the ultimate in currency control that dictators the world over love.

+1, remember they appeal to the poor in both good and bad ways, although they do nice stuff to benefit the poor people and help them raise their quality of life in a significant way, they must also know that the uneducated majority will believe them.
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March 06, 2013, 05:23:07 AM
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Socialism (particularly in a mixed economy with capitalism) is awesome, its fascism that sucks.


Wait, socialism in a 'mixed economy with capitalism' (Huh) doesn't turn out to be the same as fascism in 99% 100% of cases?

Or, what about when those socialist countries do things like ban homeschooling (Sweden) or invade a bunch of countries and kill people in them (the U.S.) or make people wait 2 years for cataract surgery while going blind (Canada) or write socialist regulations explicitly limiting the financial liability of oil companies for environmental disasters (a bunch of countries including the U.S.) or hey [insert lots of other bad things states do] [insert more bad things states do]

Elected officials control trillions of dollars and billions of bullets. The corporation that does not buy the politicians is at a competitive disadvantage. They are merely playing the "game" that was set up for them, a game of socialist/statist violence.

Actually, never mind. "Noun-1 [Verb 'to be'] Noun-2 (identity)" is not sufficient to form a higher order abstraction. General semantics phail @ X form of government "is" "awesome". Forget everything I just said as it was not necessary.

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March 06, 2013, 05:28:31 AM
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Wait, socialism in a 'mixed economy with capitalism' (Huh) doesn't turn out to be the same as fascism in 99% 100% of cases?

No, not even remotely.


Forget everything I just said as it was not necessary.

Yeah, you're right, it wasn't.
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March 06, 2013, 05:49:36 AM
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Socialism (particularly in a mixed economy with capitalism) is awesome, its fascism that sucks.
"Arsenic (particularly when mixed with water) is awesome, it's cyanide that sucks."
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March 06, 2013, 06:03:56 AM
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Chavez brought honor and dignity to his people and to the whole region.  I'm sorry to see him go, but hopeful that the seeds he cultivated will continue to grow.


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March 06, 2013, 07:07:50 AM
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March 06, 2013, 07:23:20 AM
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What did the poor man do to y'all?  Cry
socialism did murder about 160 million ppl world wide and Chavez did participate to make that number so there are plenty of reasons to hate him

Chavez didn't directly participate to kill that number of people (he's not stalin) but indirectly he didn't fight the crime rates in Venezuela, contributing to (a fucking lot of) death by crimes on Venezuela. Although he did lots of stuff to at least try to improve the life of the poor class, the government was full of corruption and inefficacy.

Anyways, I think that Venezuela needed a change of leader (by normal means like not having indefinite elections, a law he approved), although I can't be happy for the death of anyone as I'm atheist so people won't be "with you in the sky" nor anything like that.

btw I prefer bitcoins to slowly rise than having them at 100$ tomorrow and 30$ the following day.

I'd be ok with hitting $100 tomorrow and coming back to $30 the following day... at least that's why my order book tells me, hehe.

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March 06, 2013, 07:25:05 AM
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I like chocolate milk, therefore... bitcoin going to $100 tomorrow!

tough to argue that logic...

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March 06, 2013, 07:26:47 AM
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Have you ever considered how many deaths and poor people did democracy make? Give it a thought before calling another system worse ...

Thank you for a thoughtful post.  It is a good point to think about which system causes more harm than the other... definitely not a quick and easy answer.

So best for us all not to be too hasty in passing judgement!

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March 06, 2013, 08:01:06 AM
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Its worth pointing out Chavez got reelected time after time, in elections which western observers not only deemed free and fair, they went as far as calling the electoral process a model for democracy:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/12074-independent-observers-venezuelas-election-a-model-of-democracy

Probably not what you heard on US mainstream media, whom i am sure are now announcing the death of a tyrant.

As for Chavez being murdered by the US; I wouldnt rule it out, although it would have to have been a subtle approach since i am sure they looked very hard for evidence in Cuba.
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March 06, 2013, 11:25:45 AM
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For any USA-ians that might like to see a different viewpoint...

http://southoftheborderdoc.com

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March 06, 2013, 09:25:11 PM
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Have you ever considered how many deaths and poor people did democracy make? Give it a thought before calling another system worse ...

Straight to the essence, can't agree more +1

What did the poor man do to y'all?  Cry
socialism did murder about 160 million ppl world wide and Chavez did participate to make that number so there are plenty of reasons to hate him

Obama and Bush killed no less with their conquering military politics around the globe, do you suggest to hate them as well?

 Well many do, altough people dont get it thats it all about the money, and that Obama and Bush are just pupets. How the hell did we get this place to politics too? Leave it be, its a bitcoin board

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March 06, 2013, 09:28:53 PM
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Have you ever considered how many deaths and poor people did democracy make? Give it a thought before calling another system worse ...

Straight to the essence, can't agree more +1

What did the poor man do to y'all?  Cry
socialism did murder about 160 million ppl world wide and Chavez did participate to make that number so there are plenty of reasons to hate him

Obama and Bush killed no less with their conquering military politics around the globe, do you suggest to hate them as well?

 Well many do, altough people dont get it thats it all about the money, and that Obama and Bush are just pupets. How the hell did we get this place to politics too? Leave it be, its a bitcoin board

+1
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March 06, 2013, 09:41:24 PM
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Have you ever considered how many deaths and poor people did democracy make? Give it a thought before calling another system worse ...

Straight to the essence, can't agree more +1

What did the poor man do to y'all?  Cry
socialism did murder about 160 million ppl world wide and Chavez did participate to make that number so there are plenty of reasons to hate him

Obama and Bush killed no less with their conquering military politics around the globe, do you suggest to hate them as well?

 Well many do, altough people dont get it thats it all about the money, and that Obama and Bush are just pupets. How the hell did we get this place to politics too? Leave it be, its a bitcoin board

It's hard to see the two in isolation I think.

Concerning Chavez? He is a thief. He stole companies from entrepreneurs in Venuzuela for his own populist agenda and kicked them out of the country. I am not a fan of Bush or Obama or any other government or country but Chavez is one of the worst. The only reason he didn't do anything to me is he lacked the means. Not that I think the world will be a better place with his demise as I bet his successor is lining up. The more things change the more they stay the same Smiley
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