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June 04, 2016, 09:37:46 PM
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another good money management alternative is called masaniello method.
https://www.betplanning.it/metodi/money-management/metodo-masaniello-online-strategia-di-money-management
here an explanation (but it's in italian language so sorry for who couldn't understand)
It is some kind of secret Italian method or something? I bet there is English version of this method somewhere?
I tried to read it but unfortunately my Italian speaking skill is like... non-existent.

I just want to add that all these strategies are only ways to manage your bets, bankroll and progress, they are not helping you achieve any more wins than you usually get.
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June 04, 2016, 10:49:56 PM
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another good money management alternative is called masaniello method.
https://www.betplanning.it/metodi/money-management/metodo-masaniello-online-strategia-di-money-management
here an explanation (but it's in italian language so sorry for who couldn't understand)
Looks like this method are good let me try those method i have some bitcoin funds in primedice get from the giveaway before i gradually increase the bankroll.. there's no bad to try this method maybe  i can make even a small amount for this method..

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June 05, 2016, 12:05:34 AM
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another good money management alternative is called masaniello method.
https://www.betplanning.it/metodi/money-management/metodo-masaniello-online-strategia-di-money-management
here an explanation (but it's in italian language so sorry for who couldn't understand)
It is some kind of secret Italian method or something? I bet there is English version of this method somewhere?
I tried to read it but unfortunately my Italian speaking skill is like... non-existent.

I just want to add that all these strategies are only ways to manage your bets, bankroll and progress, they are not helping you achieve any more wins than you usually get.

Here is the English version:

Make a bunch of bets with a negative expected value and then, as expected, lose your money.

I found a pdf in English that explains it better, but it seems that you really need to download a program from that italian site to input how much you want to bet and how many bets you want to make to generate the chart that you make.

It spits out something that looks like a times table, and then you move one way on the chart when you lose the bet and move the other way on the chart. The chart seems especially useless because (at least in this roulette version I found in english) suggest skipping spins at certain times, as if that makes any difference in the world.

Plus side compared to martingale (on this particular version I found) you only lose 21 unit if you lose 10 in a row compared to martingale where you would lose a lot more (in this version I found, anyway.)

It looks like there are some apps (also in italian) on google play if you have a droid and want to play around/mess with italian, but my guess would be that it's not that great if there's been no english language translation explanation over these years.
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June 05, 2016, 12:29:08 AM
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The only way to beat a computer gambling game is to hope that it was not programmed well and you somehow expose a strong bias. The martingale only works in the long run if your bankroll is infinite and the casino has no maximum bet.
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June 05, 2016, 12:40:30 AM
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The only alternative for margingale is to do reverse martingale. Only double your bet when you win, when you lose you go back to your original bet.

And whats the point doubling your bet when you only win, for example in sports book this is not something to do, but you can double your bet with odds 2 and above after any loss, usually you will come out in profit many says so, but none has proved it so far, so martingale together reverse martingale are nothing to make us win.

Gambling is just a guessing game and most of the time results are based on luck either full or partial. So just try all these methods only sometimes to have fun but don't really spend lot of money to make profits out of it. It difficult to win always and nowadays most of the sports are fixed and made gamblers even difficult to guess the winner. No methods will work in the longer run.
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June 05, 2016, 12:48:25 AM
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The only way to beat a computer gambling game is to hope that it was not programmed well and you somehow expose a strong bias. The martingale only works in the long run if your bankroll is infinite and the casino has no maximum bet.
I do not think you will win in the long-term bets bets even though the short-term will not be able to use martingale method. Only if you rely on luck might work Cheesy
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June 05, 2016, 12:55:43 AM
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Here is the English version:

Make a bunch of bets with a negative expected value and then, as expected, lose your money.

I found a pdf in English that explains it better, but it seems that you really need to download a program from that italian site to input how much you want to bet and how many bets you want to make to generate the chart that you make.

It spits out something that looks like a times table, and then you move one way on the chart when you lose the bet and move the other way on the chart. The chart seems especially useless because (at least in this roulette version I found in english) suggest skipping spins at certain times, as if that makes any difference in the world.

Plus side compared to martingale (on this particular version I found) you only lose 21 unit if you lose 10 in a row compared to martingale where you would lose a lot more (in this version I found, anyway.)

It looks like there are some apps (also in italian) on google play if you have a droid and want to play around/mess with italian, but my guess would be that it's not that great if there's been no english language translation explanation over these years.
Thanks for this description. But from what you said I am a bit reluctant to believe that this method has any practical application other than boosting ego of gullible payers.
I guess it is another method which create fake sense of security that you are winning more than you are losing.
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June 05, 2016, 12:56:41 AM
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The only way to beat a computer gambling game is to hope that it was not programmed well and you somehow expose a strong bias. The martingale only works in the long run if your bankroll is infinite and the casino has no maximum bet.
I do not think you will win in the long-term bets bets even though the short-term will not be able to use martingale method. Only if you rely on luck might work Cheesy


You don't think you'll be able to earn from martingale if you have infinite bankroll and no max. bet? LOL. Grin Made my day.

But in reality, nobody has an infinite bankroll and most gambling sites have maximum bets. You'll eventually encounter a losing streak that you've never expected to be that much streak. In the long run, you'll lose when you use martingale. You might earn some in the short run, but it's not that much considering how low your basebet should be even if you have a decent bankroll. Your bet increases exponentially so you have to bet really really low at first.

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June 05, 2016, 01:01:34 AM
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Here is the English version:

Make a bunch of bets with a negative expected value and then, as expected, lose your money.

I found a pdf in English that explains it better, but it seems that you really need to download a program from that italian site to input how much you want to bet and how many bets you want to make to generate the chart that you make.

It spits out something that looks like a times table, and then you move one way on the chart when you lose the bet and move the other way on the chart. The chart seems especially useless because (at least in this roulette version I found in english) suggest skipping spins at certain times, as if that makes any difference in the world.

Plus side compared to martingale (on this particular version I found) you only lose 21 unit if you lose 10 in a row compared to martingale where you would lose a lot more (in this version I found, anyway.)

It looks like there are some apps (also in italian) on google play if you have a droid and want to play around/mess with italian, but my guess would be that it's not that great if there's been no english language translation explanation over these years.
Thanks for this description. But from what you said I am a bit reluctant to believe that this method has any practical application other than boosting ego of gullible payers.
I guess it is another method which create fake sense of security that you are winning more than you are losing.

Yes.

The only strategy for winning at gambling is to make good bets. The only way to win via making bad bets is to be lucky, and there is no strategy for that. If you are playing dice, roulette, etc, don't worry about strategy, know that you are probably going to lose, and have fun.

If you are playing blackjack, poker, sports betting, learn how to make good bets (or make decisions that can be as close to good as possible) know that you are probably going to lose, and have fun.
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June 05, 2016, 01:13:58 AM
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The only alternative for margingale is to do reverse martingale. Only double your bet when you win, when you lose you go back to your original bet.

That's not the only alternative. There are many more betting systems out there that claim to be profitable, although we all know that in the long run the house always wins, no matter what your strategy is.

For me the best strategy is just to follow your gut instinct. That way you have fun and there's no pain when losing.
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June 05, 2016, 01:21:52 AM
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The only way to beat a computer gambling game is to hope that it was not programmed well and you somehow expose a strong bias. The martingale only works in the long run if your bankroll is infinite and the casino has no maximum bet.
I do not think you will win in the long-term bets bets even though the short-term will not be able to use martingale method. Only if you rely on luck might work Cheesy


You don't think you'll be able to earn from martingale if you have infinite bankroll and no max. bet? LOL. Grin Made my day.


Actually, you would also have to be bestowed with immortality or be part of a team that will recruit and continue forever. Otherwise there is always the small chance that you hit a losing streak that lasts the rest of your natural life. Cheesy
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June 05, 2016, 12:24:12 PM
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Martingale is a nice method and style of your roll, however If you only have a large sum of capital you can always start at 0.0005 and everytime you earn a profit of let's say 0.01 withdraw it. just an opinion.

While thats not what the thread is about, but that is essentially what martingale is. And a base bet of 0.0005 isn't considered good specially because you will probably bust much sooner. People who start with even 0.00005 BTC usually bust bank rolls as large as 0.5-1BTC really fast.

Yes I admit I'm not emphasizing for the alternatives of martingale, I just discover that martingale was one of the best playing style in terms of dice, and etcetera I remember that I won a sum of 0.002 BTC from 0.00000200. using that style. however yeah bust in the end just maintain your cool and we're good to go. Goodluck everyone.
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June 05, 2016, 12:43:00 PM
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Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?
reverse martingale works the same way as normal martingale so the risk factor is identical and therefore profit and loss is also almost same. A good alternative to martingale is d'alembert or maybe paroli.
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June 05, 2016, 01:02:03 PM
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it think martingale itself can be changed a lot that there is not really any need for another method.
unless it is better , because martingale method is not exactly a good method of gambling it requries a lot of money in the bankroll to help you win and be successful.

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June 05, 2016, 01:07:29 PM
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this martingale always went out to nothing but if you are satisfied with some winnings you can stop after after hitting big wins.
but in the long run always remember that no one can win the house edge.

 
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June 05, 2016, 01:20:58 PM
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Already tried the martingale with different settings 4 hours ago but lose.. also tried reverse martingale but result lose again in primedice and fastdice..
I think its always depends in your bankroll if you can make a good profit.. or depends in our luck..
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The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.

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June 05, 2016, 03:02:21 PM
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The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.
good job for you mate if you are winning for small amount of bet but i think you
needed also to know when to stop and keep your profit, martingale always fail'
you in the long run so better keep away from this method.

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June 05, 2016, 03:06:36 PM
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The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.
Honestly its hard to make a profit in dice game even you are starting small odds it will still ended to lose.. i am experience of any other methods but never succes to make a profit..

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June 05, 2016, 03:08:04 PM
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Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

You can't beat the house. These kind of strategies can be fun to try out but they do not give an advantage. IN the long term house always win, though you could profit in the short term.
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