Genuine concern of a trader

[cointabo]

Hi everyone, I trade actively on bitfinex and poloniex, and usually end up keeping big amounts of USD on the exchanges (mostly bitfinex)
Sometimes exceeds 50k USD. And my concern is, what if bitfinex closes down or vanishes? The funds will be gone along with them.
And to prevent such tragic loss, withdrawing the USD to my bank account (a procedure that takes 7 business days +2 business days to arrive to my account) isn't an ideal method as that prevents me from trading. And I also dont want to keep say 50k USD sitting in an exchange with fingers crossed that nothing bad will happen.
I usually trade BTC/USD, ETH/USD pairs, so buying other currency (for example ltc, with current high rates) isn't ideal either.

What do you do? And what would you suggest in my position?

Thanks for your time.

[Jannn]

Margin trading?

[Edwardard]

if you are a trader then you should accept your looses too. it is possible that bitifinex or any other exchange can go down without notice. just keep this in mind "dont put all your money in any exchange site".

[mindrust]

If one of those exchanges closes down then there won't be much to do. Maybe if you live in the same country as the company operates, you can sue them locally. Other than that not much.

[pedrog]

Use more exchanges, if you spread your trades amongst several exchanges if/when one of those fails at least it won't take all your money with it.

[cointabo]

if you are a trader then you should accept your looses too. it is possible that bitifinex or any other exchange can go down without notice. just keep this in mind "dont put all your money in any exchange site".

I believe you post bullshit on topics to raise your post count in hopes of increasing your membership rank and get some satoshis from signature campaign 

[cointabo]

Use more exchanges, if you spread your trades amongst several exchanges if/when one of those fails at least it won't take all your money with it.

How legit is Tether? Any thoughts on that? I could exchange the USD to Tether and store it inside Tether, and then when I need the USD, send the Tether to bitfinex and then buy the CC of my needs and participate in trades.. But don't know much about Tether, and it could go down aswell..

[RawDog]

Hi everyone, I trade actively on bitfinex and poloniex, and usually end up keeping big amounts of USD on the exchanges (mostly bitfinex)
Sometimes exceeds 50k USD. And my concern is, what if bitfinex closes down or vanishes? The funds will be gone along with them.
And to prevent such tragic loss, withdrawing the USD to my bank account (a procedure that takes 7 business days +2 business days to arrive to my account) isn't an ideal method as that prevents me from trading. And I also dont want to keep say 50k USD sitting in an exchange with fingers crossed that nothing bad will happen.
I usually trade BTC/USD, ETH/USD pairs, so buying other currency (for example ltc, with current high rates) isn't ideal either.

What do you do? And what would you suggest in my position?

Thanks for your time.

This is actually very easy.  Let's say you need to keep $50K denominated in dollars - but don't want the exposure of the exchange failure risk, just buy Tether.  Tether is USD 1:1 and never changes.  Trades with BTC in an instant.  So, sell some trading pair to get USD, then convert those to Tether.  Let them sit around until you think BTC, or LTC price is low against the dollar and convert the Tether (tUSD) back into BTC.  Full solution.

Tether is 100% on the bitcoin blockchain - it isn't some wonky bullshit chain.  Tether is always 1:1.  Very cool.  It is like USD is already a cryptocurrency.

[cointabo]

Hi everyone, I trade actively on bitfinex and poloniex, and usually end up keeping big amounts of USD on the exchanges (mostly bitfinex)
Sometimes exceeds 50k USD. And my concern is, what if bitfinex closes down or vanishes? The funds will be gone along with them.
And to prevent such tragic loss, withdrawing the USD to my bank account (a procedure that takes 7 business days +2 business days to arrive to my account) isn't an ideal method as that prevents me from trading. And I also dont want to keep say 50k USD sitting in an exchange with fingers crossed that nothing bad will happen.
I usually trade BTC/USD, ETH/USD pairs, so buying other currency (for example ltc, with current high rates) isn't ideal either.

What do you do? And what would you suggest in my position?

Thanks for your time.

This is actually very easy.  Let's say you need to keep $50K denominated in dollars - but don't want the exposure of the exchange failure risk, just buy Tether.  Tether is USD 1:1 and never changes.  Trades with BTC in an instant.  So, sell some trading pair to get USD, then convert those to Tether.  Let them sit around until you think BTC, or LTC price is low against the dollar and convert the Tether (tUSD) back into BTC.  Full solution.

Tether is 100% on the bitcoin blockchain - it isn't some wonky bullshit chain.  Tether is always 1:1.  Very cool.  It is like USD is already a cryptocurrency.

You have answered my question, thank you

[Holliday]

This is actually very easy.  Let's say you need to keep $50K denominated in dollars - but don't want the exposure of the exchange failure risk, just buy Tether.  Tether is USD 1:1 and never changes.  Trades with BTC in an instant.  So, sell some trading pair to get USD, then convert those to Tether.  Let them sit around until you think BTC, or LTC price is low against the dollar and convert the Tether (tUSD) back into BTC.  Full solution.

Tether is 100% on the bitcoin blockchain - it isn't some wonky bullshit chain.  Tether is always 1:1.  Very cool.  It is like USD is already a cryptocurrency.

Who guarantees that there will always be a counterparty to trade you 1 USD for every 1 Tether that you have?

It sounds to me like you are just swapping trust from an exchange to the entity guaranteeing Tether's exchange rate.

[gentlemand]

If it were me I couldn't bring myself to leave that much on an exchange. If the exchange dies then you're just another creditor at the bottom of a long line. And I guess you're just another creditor while it's operating too.

I really can't wrap my mind around what happened to all the fiat on Gox. There's been virtually no mention of it and surely it's easily traceable.

I'd be running in and out with Bitcoin only even if I was losing a bit in fees and sales.

Gemini and Itbit do have full insurance for your dollars but I guess that margin stuff is too tempting.

[Kprawn]

RawDog has it spot on, but do you want something pegged to the dollar, with the dollar losing it's value? I would just split the risk and go for more exchanges, to prevent a situation where you lose everything in

one go. We have learned from Mt Gox that saving loads of coins on exchanges are not a good idea... let's not repeat the same mistakes twice. I also like  https://1broker.com/ if you are into CFD's. In any way,

split the coins over different exchanges and your losses will be less. Good luck. 

[mkc]

How tether work? Why it always at 1 dollar?
Does it also had price determined by market, buyer and sellers?

[cointabo]

How tether work? Why it always at 1 dollar?
Does it also had price determined by market, buyer and sellers?

tether.to

[bitdumper]

You are going to withdraw the usd means you will not trade with that value. So why not just conbert them to bitcoin and make them rest in a cold wallet. When you will see the price is going to decrease too much just trade them again to usd.

[doublemore]

Hi everyone, I trade actively on bitfinex and poloniex, and usually end up keeping big amounts of USD on the exchanges (mostly bitfinex)
Sometimes exceeds 50k USD. And my concern is, what if bitfinex closes down or vanishes? The funds will be gone along with them.
And to prevent such tragic loss, withdrawing the USD to my bank account (a procedure that takes 7 business days +2 business days to arrive to my account) isn't an ideal method as that prevents me from trading. And I also dont want to keep say 50k USD sitting in an exchange with fingers crossed that nothing bad will happen.
I usually trade BTC/USD, ETH/USD pairs, so buying other currency (for example ltc, with current high rates) isn't ideal either.

What do you do? And what would you suggest in my position?

Thanks for your time.

I suggest you put about $40k of that in a buy and hold bitcoin position and lock it up for 5 years.  Then trade with the other $10k surely that is enough?

[cointabo]

Hi everyone, I trade actively on bitfinex and poloniex, and usually end up keeping big amounts of USD on the exchanges (mostly bitfinex)
Sometimes exceeds 50k USD. And my concern is, what if bitfinex closes down or vanishes? The funds will be gone along with them.
And to prevent such tragic loss, withdrawing the USD to my bank account (a procedure that takes 7 business days +2 business days to arrive to my account) isn't an ideal method as that prevents me from trading. And I also dont want to keep say 50k USD sitting in an exchange with fingers crossed that nothing bad will happen.
I usually trade BTC/USD, ETH/USD pairs, so buying other currency (for example ltc, with current high rates) isn't ideal either.

What do you do? And what would you suggest in my position?

Thanks for your time.

I suggest you put about $40k of that in a buy and hold bitcoin position and lock it up for 5 years.  Then trade with the other $10k surely that is enough?

I actually converted my BTC holdings at 448.9 thinking it was the hight, and the next day the price jumped to 550+ (couldnt see that coming), now I dont want to buy BTC at this price, and specially keep it for years in cold storage. My plan is to buy ETH dip, and waiting for it. But just paranoid to keep a lump sum sitting in bitfinex.. paranoias man

[ashapasa]

Why not split your funds in three or four exchanges btc-e kraken poloniex etc.

[mobnepal]

Use more exchanges, if you spread your trades amongst several exchanges if/when one of those fails at least it won't take all your money with it.

I also agree on this suggestion and i also personally devide all my coins between bitfinex, poloneix, yobit, bittrex, btc-e so that even one go down i will only loss around 10-20% of my fund. I believe bitfinex for bitcoin and poloneix for altcoin trading more than others.

[odolvlobo]

Perhaps using regulated exchanges such as Gemini or GDAX will solve your problems. They both trade BTC and ETH.