Roger Ver and blocksize

[g-unit]

Why is Roger Ver continually making posts/complaints about the block size issues on facebook/twitter? I thought segregated witness was already being rolled out and will continue to be rolled out over the next few months while a longer term solution is developed? With the current bitcoin price the community doesn't seem to be fretting over this issue like they were in the past.

Can someone enlighten me?

[Lauda]

The real question is why do you care what Roger Ver thinks? As far as I'm concerned, his opinions are as valuable as those of any other random human on this planet. He dislikes Core, he dislikes Segwit, and r/bitcoin and BTCT. Do I need to say more?

[g-unit]

Well I just wondered since he has such a huge influence in the bitcoin world. If he were to flip and trash talk bitcoin like Hearn did, it would cause the price to plunge.

Most of all I just wondered out of curiosity.

[pedrog]

Why is Roger Ver continually making posts/complaints about the block size issues on facebook/twitter? I thought segregated witness was already being rolled out and will continue to be rolled out over the next few months while a longer term solution is developed? With the current bitcoin price the community doesn't seem to be fretting over this issue like they were in the past.

Can someone enlighten me?

Nothing has been 'rolled out', network transaction capacity is the same as ever and nothing in the immediate future will be done, meanwhile we are, as we've been for many months now, at maximum transaction capacity.

[franky1]

and why should Laudas opinion matter.
he doesnt know C++. and has never read a line of bitcoin code.

he loves core, he really loves blockstream and he thinks segwit is the perfect dream unicorn he had always wished for as a kid... just a shame that its not actually working as a bitcoin feature right now so all of them 'segwit is perfect' mantras are useless, because so far its not even part of bitcoin, and still in testing on its own altcoin.

even when it is implemented as part of bitcoin, it wont become active for many many more months. so dont expect any logical capacity increases any time soon.. only expect delays, excuses and fairy tale dreams of perfection.

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

Part of it would be to drive new traffic to his bitcoin.com and subdomains. He has a forum that is not doing very well and a casino to promote.

[Lauda]

Well I just wondered since he has such a huge influence in the bitcoin world. If he were to flip and trash talk bitcoin like Hearn did, it would cause the price to plunge.

I wouldn't mind him quitting either. Such people stop being beneficial to the ecosystem at one point (e.g. Hearn).

Nothing has been 'rolled out', network transaction capacity is the same as ever and nothing in the immediate future will be done, meanwhile we are, as we've been for many months now, at maximum transaction capacity.

There are two possible cases:
1) We are at maximum capacity and adoption has completely stopped.
2) We are not at maximum capacity and adoption has not stopped.
I'm pretty sure that we are still in the second one (e.g. my mempool has not been constantly rising).

Part of it would be to drive new traffic to his bitcoin.com and subdomains. He has a forum that is not doing very well and a casino to promote.

That shouldn't surprise people considering that he was spam-advertising his forum here during AMA.

[pedrog]

Part of it would be to drive new traffic to his bitcoin.com and subdomains. He has a forum that is not doing very well and a casino to promote.

Well, lack of bitcoin scalability may be one of the reasons why is business hasn't been growing, its success is directly linked to bitcoin's success...

[Denker]

Well I just wondered since he has such a huge influence in the bitcoin world. If he were to flip and trash talk bitcoin like Hearn did, it would cause the price to plunge.

Most of all I just wondered out of curiosity.

Does he really has any influence? I don't think so!
He has a bigger stash of coins, was one of the early adopters, funded a few companies.But that's it.His website doesn't seem to work as expected.
Furthermore Roger barely has any deeper understanding about the technolgy itself.His attempt together with the classic guys to push for a hostile takeover via hardfork was a big failure. Wouldn't surprise me if they brainwashed him, because deep in the heart Roger seems to be a good guy.

[Carlton Banks]

Roger Ver is just another bankster mouthpiece working with people like Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn. Don't let the "freedom" credentials fool you, he either uses that as rhetorical device (and only wants freedom for himself+friends), or he's simply a useful idiot to said banksters (entirely possible).

After all, why would Roger be promoting alternative development plans that endanger the network? Freedom also includes the freedom to be a total idiot, apparently.

[g-unit]

The way I see it, with the recent price rises since last fall and coinbase's user base continually growing, people aren't too worried. Coinbase seems to gain another 100K members every month lately, so adoption is still very much happening.

[pedrog]

The way I see it, with the recent price rises since last fall and coinbase's user base continually growing, people aren't too worried. Coinbase seems to gain another 100K members every month lately, so adoption is still very much happening.

You do realize people at Coinbase have the same concerns about block size, and its CEO is a big proponent of block size increase...

Hey, but at least Coinbase is a solution to scaling bitcoin, if you transact between Coinbase accounts you don'y need to use the blockchain.

[iCEBREAKER]

Part of it would be to drive new traffic to his bitcoin.com and subdomains. He has a forum that is not doing very well and a casino to promote.

Ver's trolling is advertising for the shitty rump forum and casino he hosts on the exorbitantly overpriced bitcoin dot com domain.

He must be losing a ton of money paying for care and maintenance on that ghost town.

Thus the frequent shittweeting of clickbait, hoping someone besides Brian Armstrong will notice his hapless flailing.

[classicsucks]

Roger Ver is (snip) a useful idiot to said banksters (entirely possible).

After all, why would Roger be promoting alternative development plans that endanger the network?

+1

He seems like a nice guy, but a bit of a doofus, who got busted selling fireworks online. Last month he was whining about his unconfirmed bitcoin transaction that he created with no fee. Last year he was denied entry to the US after he renounced his citizenship to avoid taxes.


I think the whole Classique/Coar fight is more about control, and less about blocksize and network capacity. Gavin and his minions/handlers want control back, and the blocksize was a perfect wedge issue to bring that about. Well, maybe not quite perfect... more like REKT LAWL.

[Carlton Banks]

Roger Ver is (snip) a useful idiot to said banksters (entirely possible).

After all, why would Roger be promoting alternative development plans that endanger the network?

+1

He seems like a nice guy, but a bit of a doofus, who got busted selling fireworks online. Last month he was whining about his unconfirmed bitcoin transaction that he created with no fee. Last year he was denied entry to the US after he renounced his citizenship to avoid taxes.

Well, I consider it equally possible that all of his "freedom" spiel is simply his cover as an agent of the bankster establishment, fairly deep cover of course. If anyone thinks that's far fetched, bear in mind the lengths that espionage agents will undergo to establish convincing credentials for a given operation. Take a look into the history of espionage if you're unaware.

But of course, it's impossible to tell whether Roger Ver is a useful idiot or an anti-Bitcoin agent, definitive evidence either way doesn't exist (and in the case of the "useful idiot" scenario, not necessarily mutually exclusive ). One thing about Ver that is positively true though: the Bitcoin Judas moniker

[Patatas]

and why should Laudas opinion matter.
he doesnt know C++. and has never read a line of bitcoin code.

So to comment about bitcoin or generally share your opinion ,one has to read the entire source code from the core repository ? Wish that rule was implemented in the forum too,we will have all smart people around.

The real question is why do you care what Roger Ver thinks? As far as I'm concerned, his opinions are as valuable as those of any other random human on this planet. He dislikes Core, he dislikes Segwit, and r/bitcoin and BTCT. Do I need to say more?

Don't you know Roger Ver is an  - Bitcoin Angel Investor & Bitcoin Evangelist ? Well that's what his official website says and hence his opinions do matter to those who follow him.I don't see anything wrong with that.

[Lauda]

and why should Laudas opinion matter.
he doesnt know C++. and has never read a line of bitcoin code.

So to comment about bitcoin or generally share your opinion ,one has to read the entire source code from the core repository ? Wish that rule was implemented in the forum too,we will have all smart people around.

All that I see there is: "This user is currently ignored.".

Don't you know Roger Ver is an  - Bitcoin Angel Investor & Bitcoin Evangelist ? Well that's what his official website says and hence his opinions do matter to those who follow him.I don't see anything wrong with that.

Don't you know that my Cat is the supreme Jedi savior? Well, that's what her official website says and thus you should worship her. I don't see anything wrong with that. [1]
Hopefully you see what I'm getting at with [1]. Anyhow, read the posts from Carlton regarding Ver.

[Useli Violent]

Roger Ver is "Bitcoin Jesus"!
Everyone knows that.

https://www.google.com/#q=roger+ver+bitcoin+jesus

[Cuidler]

Why is Roger Ver continually making posts/complaints about the block size issues on facebook/twitter? I thought segregated witness was already being rolled out and will continue to be rolled out over the next few months while a longer term solution is developed?

Because he has a lot to loose if Bitcoin is not scalled to be useable for bigger adoption as he has invested a lot in various Bitcoin related enterprises, plus there wont be segregated witness activated until Core adds 2 MB hard fork code - bitmain made it very clear on this matter. So the sonner Core adds both features, the better for everyone. The only unfortunate thing is Core still silent on the matter, thats why those who can lose the most loudly complains.

[beastmodeBiscuitGravy]

He owns 100,000+ BTC, not 100,000 shares of Blockstream. Pretty simple really.