Which firm of mining hardware providers is the best one?

[notlist3d]

That won't be a problem at all. The miners will be outside my living enviroment but I really have a problem with ventilation in my garage. I'll have to put some fans I guess to cool the whole setup down and make some natural ventilation. I'm sure of one thing - the fire extinguisher will be there for the worst case scenario 

 You need to get airflow INTO / OUT OF the garage, not just around it, or overheat will happen. Fans in windows are a good place to start.

It really depends on how much gear you have.   I had to use a IN/Out with air since evaporation cooling is not a option in my climate.  Eventually I had to get a industrial gable fan that pushes out a lot of CFM. 

And ofcourse I use lot's some big fan's to push air.   I can adjust it down to save money on cool day's.

[QuintLeo]

I like lots of standard "box" type fans with an A/C filter on the intake side, positive pressure filtered air is VERY good for dust control - if you can push enough of it.

 Might have to go "industrial" fans at some point though, I'm starting to hit limits on how much air the box fans can push.

[DarkThrones]

Bitmain is the best. Slowly the other competition is also dropping out and so maybe Bitmain will be the only ones who actually make anything in the future. Then they really could control things (like they are now)

[notlist3d]

I like lots of standard "box" type fans with an A/C filter on the intake side, positive pressure filtered air is VERY good for dust control - if you can push enough of it.

 Might have to go "industrial" fans at some point though, I'm starting to hit limits on how much air the box fans can push.

With my mining area i had to go to "commercial" gable fan eventually.   Just needed a exhust of heat I was not getting with regular home gable fan's.   Luckily all my costs with fan's and wiring and such were around a year ago really paid for.   I am going into my second summer with it.   Living in midwest means lot's of CFM's since evaporation cooling not a option.

But as far as firm with best gear right now S9 is just taking the show.   No one else has released anything publicly with near the efficiency.   There are pics of BW chips in another thread.... but even if they get close to the efficiency of S9 Bitmain really beat them getting it all out before having.   Currently they are king.

[QuintLeo]

IMO Innosilicon is overall the most reputable manufacturer of hardware - but they don't currently make SHA256 chips (dunno what happened for sure on their A3, guessing the efficiency wasn't there to be competative and they decided to shelve it or take it back to redesign for better?).

 Bitmain is king in SHA256 at this point, being the first to actually market a MINER in the 14/16nm full-custom generation - which is a shame since Bitfury demoed their comparable chip MONTHS ago but still has nothing available as a miner.

 I suspect the market is going to look a LOT different well before the end of the year though, with BW having a few of it's LK-1402 spotted in the wild, and Bitfury SHOULD get it's chips into some sort of miner by then, and Avalon actually having started work on that generation (though their buyout might complicate things, dunno if they'll still be sellers to end users, but the buyout SHOULD give them plenty of cash to develop WITH).

[piececake24]

i also want to know the best mining site

[philipma1957]

i also want to know the best mining site

I push people at kano.is , but there are more then a few good ones.

[crairezx20]

i also want to know the best mining site

I push people at kano.is , but there are more then a few good ones.

Thanks for your sharing i would like to ask if what is the advantage if we find other pool like in your link you given.
the currently i known site is https://www.antpool.com/home.htm
I mean what is the difference?

[notlist3d]

i also want to know the best mining site

I push people at kano.is , but there are more then a few good ones.

Thanks for your sharing i would like to ask if what is the advantage if we find other pool like in your link you given.
the currently i known site is https://www.antpool.com/home.htm
I mean what is the difference?

Here is a good comparison of a lot of pools: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools  You might take a look at different reward types on pools.

And you might find it interesting on the last X hours on distribution of blocks solved: https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs

[philipma1957]

i also want to know the best mining site

I push people at kano.is , but there are more then a few good ones.

Thanks for your sharing i would like to ask if what is the advantage if we find other pool like in your link you given.
the currently i known site is https://www.antpool.com/home.htm
I mean what is the difference?

Only mine with f2pool or antpool if you can not connect to kano.is

do you want a long explanation ?

read why.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1338693.0

[Cromvel]

That won't be a problem at all. The miners will be outside my living enviroment but I really have a problem with ventilation in my garage. I'll have to put some fans I guess to cool the whole setup down and make some natural ventilation. I'm sure of one thing - the fire extinguisher will be there for the worst case scenario 

 You need to get airflow INTO / OUT OF the garage, not just around it, or overheat will happen. Fans in windows are a good place to start.

It really depends on how much gear you have.   I had to use a IN/Out with air since evaporation cooling is not a option in my climate.  Eventually I had to get a industrial gable fan that pushes out a lot of CFM. 

And ofcourse I use lot's some big fan's to push air.   I can adjust it down to save money on cool day's.

I'm also keep thinking about industrial fans but I'll see exactly what I need when I'll have the rigs. In addition to fans I'll make some ducts to make an air flowing. Thanks for advice!

[leowonderful]

i also want to know the best mining site

I push people at kano.is , but there are more then a few good ones.

Thanks for your sharing i would like to ask if what is the advantage if we find other pool like in your link you given.
the currently i known site is https://www.antpool.com/home.htm
I mean what is the difference?

Only mine with f2pool or antpool if you can not connect to kano.is

do you want a long explanation ?

read why.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1338693.0

There's a shorter explanation, if you don't want to read that much. Antpool and friends mine empty blocks that process no transactions except the 25 BTC given to the pool that mines the block, and so they contribute to full blocks. This means that they are causing huge jams of transactions that can last for days. In addition to that, kano has better luck and lower fees than Antpool, and you're supporting a pool built by one of the members of bitcointalk. Sure, Bitmaintech makes our miners, but they're getting more and more corrupted and I wouldn't funnel in my hash power to them as well.

[piececake24]

Looking also for great idea tips here

[notlist3d]

Looking also for great idea tips here

We need to know more information to really be of help.   What is your electricity price that is going to be one of biggest factors?   Also do you have a area heat/sound will be ok?   What is area like?

We just need to know a lot more to be of any meaningful help.

[QuintLeo]

I just realised there is a good, totally accurate, and probably everyone can agree with it answer to the original question - as long as the hardware provider doesn't have to be mining-specific or an ASIC maker.

 AMD.


 8-)

[notlist3d]

I just realised there is a good, totally accurate, and probably everyone can agree with it answer to the original question - as long as the hardware provider doesn't have to be mining-specific or an ASIC maker.

 AMD.


 8-)

If we are talking about ether which has gone popular it I would agree as far as GPU.  I have had many many AMD GPU's in different brand's and had pretty good luck a few RMA's along the way in LTC day's a while ago.

This does not carry over to BTC since SHA256 is by far an asic game.  No gpu can compete anymore.

[Nevis]

Hi guys. That is pretty much my question.
Which firm of mining hardware providers is the best one?

I want to setup a mining rig (I have no problem with a free access to electricity) but I don't what hardware I need to buy. There are so much thing here: Antminer (a bunch of models), Bitfurry and other stuff. I have no financial problems and ready to invest 5000$ into my mining rig. Should I buy China or US made hardware? Which one is the best one?

Thanks a lot in advance of advise 

I would advise that if you would consider purchasing antminer from bitmain you should  buy S9, it is the newest model right now. The newest the model the more hashpower you will have and you will save time mining. Dont purchase s7 and below since it will be outdated soon. Outdated models mean low haspower more power and more maintenance, which entails less profit.

[QuintLeo]

It actually applied to ALL coins at some point to a degree - some of the CPU-specific coins might run better on Intel, but Intel's presense in graphics is a sad joke for the most part (even the Haswell and Skylake APUs don't match my 2 generation old A10-5700s on graphic performance overall).

 Doesn't apply CURRENTLY to SHA256/Scrypt/X11 coins as the ASICs have taken those over, but that leaves a very large number of coins that work well on AMD hardware (and a FEW that work better on Nvidia).

[leowonderful]

It actually applied to ALL coins at some point to a degree - some of the CPU-specific coins might run better on Intel, but Intel's presense in graphics is a sad joke for the most part (even the Haswell and Skylake APUs don't match my 2 generation old A10-5700s on graphic performance overall).

 Doesn't apply CURRENTLY to SHA256/Scrypt/X11 coins as the ASICs have taken those over, but that leaves a very large number of coins that work well on AMD hardware (and a FEW that work better on Nvidia).

Well, AMD used to manufacture Intel chips, then went off by itself, so their chips aren't quite intel quality, ever since then. Skylake HD Graphics can beat AMD APUS, but remember that the clockrate of each Skylake gpu varies with the processor. I.e HD 530 is faster in a 7600K(not quite sure it even has 530) but is slower in a i7-6700HQ.  Also remember that you're comparing a desktop APU to both desktop AND laptop GPU. Intel still has the better efficiency,core performance, and overall is better with cpus, so it's no wonder they run better on CPU coins. It kind of evens out in GPUland, with AMD destroying Nvidia, but there are a very few coins that are nvidia-centered or something. (2-3, not very many lol)

[notlist3d]

It actually applied to ALL coins at some point to a degree - some of the CPU-specific coins might run better on Intel, but Intel's presense in graphics is a sad joke for the most part (even the Haswell and Skylake APUs don't match my 2 generation old A10-5700s on graphic performance overall).

 Doesn't apply CURRENTLY to SHA256/Scrypt/X11 coins as the ASICs have taken those over, but that leaves a very large number of coins that work well on AMD hardware (and a FEW that work better on Nvidia).

Well, AMD used to manufacture Intel chips, then went off by itself, so their chips aren't quite intel quality, ever since then. Skylake HD Graphics can beat AMD APUS, but remember that the clockrate of each Skylake gpu varies with the processor. I.e HD 530 is faster in a 7600K(not quite sure it even has 530) but is slower in a i7-6700HQ.  Also remember that you're comparing a desktop APU to both desktop AND laptop GPU. Intel still has the better efficiency,core performance, and overall is better with cpus, so it's no wonder they run better on CPU coins. It kind of evens out in GPUland, with AMD destroying Nvidia, but there are a very few coins that are nvidia-centered or something. (2-3, not very many lol)

I had to do a double take for a second two Leo's in a row .   But CPU coins are kinda dead in my view there just is not anything I see as making enough to pay electricity off of.   I wish it was not true and there was a good alt.  Chances of paying electricity to mine CPU coins are slim... and ROI on CPU chip not even a chance do I see specifically looking at nice chips.

And a lot of the Intel integrated GPU's just don't have enough power to make it worthwhile.  Best by far is Ether it's on a heck of a run.  And takes a decent GPU those intel integrated that most motherboards have just does not cut it.