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June 05, 2016, 05:16:01 AM |
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But people have been voluntarily sharing what they are doing throughout the day on Facebook, Twitter and Youtube, Twitch and many more social media sites. Also Google and Microsoft are datamining their users like crazy especially with Windows 10 which is designed to be a user statistics grabbing tool disguised as a free OS. Your common email providers are not giving you free anonymous email service either and God knows which government agency has been reading your 'private' mails. I mean we have been putting out our life for everyone to see like all day long all over the Internet and now we are worried about logging into websites by using our ID's instead of a username and a password? If this is an optional way to have access to my accounts it's not such a big deal but obviously this way of logging in won't be implemented in Bitcoin sites because it's against the Bitcoin 'pseudo anonymity' principle. By the way the Bitcoin exchanges already know who you are, where you live and what is your bank account, would you care much if you log in using your ID card there? I guess not ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 05, 2016, 05:42:23 AM |
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If using IDs to login becomes mandatory,i`ll stop using internet ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) What if someone hacks that system and steals all the ID information? Bureaucratic idiots.... ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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June 05, 2016, 06:11:47 AM |
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there has always been a battle between people wanting to keep their privacy and government wanting to snoop around in their private affairs. this is nothing new!
Exactly every country has the same issue, but in Europe bitcoin had made some impact over their economy. For this reason they were trying to get into people's personal.
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June 05, 2016, 06:29:43 AM |
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I think this stuff would not be taken seriously, especially commissioning.
What I noticed is the fact it is suggested that a Communist. Look at North Korea, Russia, with their current relic of communism. Total control, paranoid desire for all to follow due to the destruction by the authorities of the state, and hence the excitement and discontent of citizens. They want to stop it and to plant in prison as the novel "1984" Orwell - thoughtcrime.
"Council of Europe Secretary General concerned about Internet censorship: Rules for blocking and removal of illegal content must be transparent and proportionate"
The UN recognized the Internet access a basic right cheloveka.Soglasno document adopted by the UN information network dissemination should be as free and limited only to those situations where it may lead to a violation of someone's rights.
I do not believe this nonsense. Many countries use or plan to use Bitcoin. Global banks and traders also. No one will it all just to destroy.
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June 05, 2016, 06:35:00 AM |
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consumers should be able to choose the credentials by which they want to identify or authenticate themselves. From this excerpt it doesn't look like they want to force people to use government/electronic IDs though. They're just proposing that online platforms offer people the option to use verifiable credentials. I think it's perfectly fine as long as people can choose not to use official IDs. One thing's for sure, people using their real credentials are a lot less likely to scam so when doing business these people will hold an advantage over those who prefer to remain anonymous. There are actually quite a few benefits to using official IDs.
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June 05, 2016, 07:03:43 AM |
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its a fake news. how can they do so. is it possible for a state or so to control the world wide internet. not impossible. such kind of news always wandering in the market but of no use. these are just producing panic nothing less nothing more.
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June 05, 2016, 07:25:26 AM |
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the last time i heard a funny news like this was US president talking about bitcoin (indirectly) which created a whole lot of meme about the swiss bank in your pocket thing. this one is not even close to it. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip. Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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June 05, 2016, 07:34:54 AM |
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There will always be politicians with "funny" ideas. That doesn't mean that such idiotic things can and will happen. But showing such "projects" in the newspaper increases the traffic and sales. It doesn't mean anything...
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June 05, 2016, 09:45:23 AM |
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If using IDs to login becomes mandatory,i`ll stop using internet ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) What if someone hacks that system and steals all the ID information? Bureaucratic idiots.... ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) No I very much doubt it that this proposition for using personal ID as a means of login method will become mandatory at all. The EU officials are more likely trying to suggest this idea as an optional thing but I think it won't be successful anyway even if the bill gets passed. It's highly unlikely the EU users would prefer to share their personal information when they could continue using usernames and passwords as usual.
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June 05, 2016, 10:19:44 AM |
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It's only a proposal, and it's not that different from what many websites are already doing. When you register on facebook or linkedin, you are supposed to use your real ID. Same thing if you shop online. I guess what makes some politicians worry most is the travel websites where some companies offer the writing of fake comments as a service. You choose an hotel in Italy because you've read great comments about it, but they've all been written by Indians who have never left India. So it should not be compulsory, but there are many things where trust is important, hence the need for some control.
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I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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June 05, 2016, 11:15:33 AM |
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EU is a bunch of old people and they cant control even their economical situation how they will control something global like internet or how they can detroy something without borders like bitcoin?
If they destroy the internet they destroy bitcoin. Bitcoin cant exist without the internet. They can not destroy the internet! Even if they could, this would have huge impacts on so many industries that in hindsight they would highly regret having done so. So don't worry mate!
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June 05, 2016, 11:36:48 AM |
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It is not the first EU bureaucrats are proposing some outright awful legislation. I guess Europeans remember ACTA? Also horrid inventions like SOPA and PIPA? Do you remember what happened back then? Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPAPeople will fight for free internet. It is the only medium that is left. Indeed that was wonderful, even enemies join forces when there is a common threat. But i fear they will package this as something unharmful, and slip it under our noses. Tyrrany is always packaged in nice pink packages with pink wrapping.
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June 05, 2016, 11:41:09 AM |
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when you sign a contract with an internet provider, you are already throwing away your identity imho, this is not much different
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June 05, 2016, 11:41:25 AM |
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No I very much doubt it that this proposition for using personal ID as a means of login method will become mandatory at all. The EU officials are more likely trying to suggest this idea as an optional thing but I think it won't be successful anyway even if the bill gets passed. It's highly unlikely the EU users would prefer to share their personal information when they could continue using usernames and passwords as usual.
They will make it mandatory later.... Let me think, how should I store my password?
A) Open-source password manager that keeps passwords encrypted and 1 master password has to be remembered only B) With bureocrats, that leave my personal ID info exposed to identity theftIt's a very hard choice folks!
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June 05, 2016, 04:52:27 PM |
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Seriously, who will answer the poll with the second option. The way it is formulated even someone which is not anti-Brussels as me will never vote for that option !
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June 05, 2016, 09:49:16 PM |
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That would be intresting to watch. Luckily you could transact bitconi without internet .. oh, only cash has such properties. Forgot.
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June 05, 2016, 11:30:01 PM |
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@RealBitcoin what if that bureaucrats will ensure you that they will keep your stored passwords encrypted for example by MD5 algorithm? This way it will be really hard for someone to know your private passwords neither hackers nor authorities will have easy access to it.
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June 06, 2016, 04:36:13 AM |
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Funny read but worrying as well. Eu tried to control the currency and the bank interest is running in negative. But it is virtually impossible to control internet even after publishing government ID card for using internet.
Hackers know the ways to hide their ass. Now the normal people will also follow their ways. There are so many documents available in the internet on how to hide ur ass from the rest of the world. People will follow that.
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June 06, 2016, 05:15:50 AM |
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Well I think it's a pretty obvious choice - I would like to use an open-source password manager with 1 master password and everything else encrypted within it. Actually I have been using a password manager for a while already and I must say it's a very convenient way of storing all my important passwords in one place. Now it's possible for me to use 15 or 20 character long sophisticated passwords which are very hard to remember otherwise. I think people who are concerned about their online security won't submit to using their ID's for logging in to their accounts even if the government requires them to. There will always be a way for circumventing this obstacle.
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