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June 09, 2016, 09:41:57 PM |
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I think what he meant was cloud mining sites. They are pretty much HYIP sites in disguise. They say that they are cloud mining specialists when they don't have a mining operation at all.
There's a small number of exceptions. However, in all cases they will be able to sign a message from an address that received a lot of coinbase transactions (generated coins), and/or have their site name as part of the coinbase freeform data.
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June 10, 2016, 11:35:45 AM |
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Well, it's highly recommended that you stay away from either of the two because of these reasons: HYIP - fast ROI but very high risk of scam
Mining - slow ROI, big capital but no risk of scam
It's up to you if you want to invest in either but you have been warned. Don't go crying on the forum if you're scammed on hyip's.
I think what he meant was cloud mining sites. They are pretty much HYIP sites in disguise. They say that they are cloud mining specialists when they don't have a mining operation at all. A classic example would be hashie.co or pbmining. Yes basically it. For example this site scam ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2Fhu4nfc.png&t=665&c=CU9Hc8VoV3hctg) They returned only 35% of the investment that people deposited, I did investigations, I found that only returned money from people who deposited more than $ 5,000. Most cloud mining sites are HYIP disguised. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F10qmjwn.png&t=665&c=A9pFyEbDTZ6ACg)
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June 12, 2016, 08:52:23 PM |
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Well, it's highly recommended that you stay away from either of the two because of these reasons: HYIP - fast ROI but very high risk of scam
Mining - slow ROI, big capital but no risk of scam
It's up to you if you want to invest in either but you have been warned. Don't go crying on the forum if you're scammed on hyip's.
I think mining is also have a risk? I'm not sure that the mining site will always be alive? they would stop or collapse? there are times when all users will achieve ROI ? and how the site was to make profits if all users has been ROI? I think they're going to be a scam
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June 12, 2016, 09:21:38 PM |
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HYIP = SCAM. period. Cloudmining though I haven't tried a lot of them but 4 or 5 and 3 of them are still no pay as I putted so small amounts that it takes at least 3 months to reach minimum withdraw limit ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) and 2 of them paid, hashnest (BITMAIN) however the fee and payout percentage changes By the minutes but you can ROI there no doubt, and other one is hash ocean where I have 5 family member as my referrals and each Putted $15 and so far payments are coming when reaching 0.005B. but hey don't say that I'm promoting them because I don't know what happens if I put $20,000 in one account, how ever to this date no one is claiming to lose money to them. but cloud mining is not scam in nature.
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June 15, 2016, 08:35:12 AM |
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i think we must stop invest at cloudmining and start mining with real hardware
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June 15, 2016, 03:51:50 PM |
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i think we must stop invest at cloudmining and start mining with real hardware
yeah, when you give someone to control your money, its always ending with scam
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June 16, 2016, 09:00:46 AM |
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They are two different things all together
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June 16, 2016, 09:42:33 AM |
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HYIP and Mining is different, for example hashnest is cloudmining but it isn't scam, it's legal and there are also some websites, that call themeselfs mining, but in real they are HYIP. You have to analyze what is HYIP and what real cloud mining.
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June 16, 2016, 01:40:04 PM |
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Inv.890m.com make double btc
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June 17, 2016, 12:00:35 PM |
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Inv.890m.com make double btc
another scammer, It came advertise for your site! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Fi43bj9.jpg%26t%3D565%26c%3Dt-U2MtmFl1t8-Q&t=665&c=v9Vx1oILdf-GBA)
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June 17, 2016, 12:13:04 PM |
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i think we must stop invest at cloudmining and start mining with real hardware
That's right, cloud mining are also hyip that scams people. So you better stop investing there and never to re-invest your money there. And starting for a real mining with real hardware is really a good thing but I think mining difficulty will increase. If the halving happens.
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June 18, 2016, 02:39:58 AM |
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Theres a huge difference between legit mining with actual hardware in your hands vs cloud.
But if you choose cloud mining youre putting full trust with the operator to do the right thing to pay you out - which most cases peoples greed to take over which ends up looking like a hyip.
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June 23, 2016, 04:28:51 AM |
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Do you think HIYIP AND MINING it the same ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) if you think it's the same, what similarities ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) And if you think it's different, what's the difference ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I think hell together a profitable investment into two sides. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) And lastly, What do you do if a site HIYIP and MININGsuddenly SCAM ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Lol you dont have to compare the HYIP and Mining i dont know if its a cloud mining services but it would go to scam also . So if you have a doubt and not sure if you really want to invest or not then do not go for it because at the end of the day you could be also a victim .
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June 23, 2016, 04:40:35 AM |
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Theres a huge difference between legit mining with actual hardware in your hands vs cloud.
But if you choose cloud mining youre putting full trust with the operator to do the right thing to pay you out - which most cases peoples greed to take over which ends up looking like a hyip.
Mining is much better than cloud mining and hyip. Both all of them needs investment so it is better to invest in the real investment which mining and the hard ware that you need to buy is not just you can use for mining but it will depend on how you are going to use. Rather than invest in cloud mining and hyip that are sure scams.
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June 23, 2016, 01:23:33 PM |
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Mining is much better than cloud mining and hyip. Both all of them needs investment so it is better to invest in the real investment which mining and the hard ware that you need to buy is not just you can use for mining but it will depend on how you are going to use. Rather than invest in cloud mining and hyip that are sure scams.
If you're not buying electricity at bulk price rates mining really may not be worth it depending on your cost and efficiency.
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June 23, 2016, 02:09:55 PM |
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lmao . i think there is no difference between HYIP and Mining they are same going to scam at the end and some people are expecting that mining can give them a stable income .
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June 24, 2016, 05:49:57 AM |
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lmao . i think there is no difference between HYIP and Mining they are same going to scam at the end and some people are expecting that mining can give them a stable income .
yeah there is no difference between hyip and mining it depends on the site if they want to become a scam, if you want to earn with that try to withdraw it fast.
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June 24, 2016, 09:03:27 AM |
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lmao . i think there is no difference between HYIP and Mining they are same going to scam at the end and some people are expecting that mining can give them a stable income .
yeah there is no difference between hyip and mining it depends on the site if they want to become a scam, if you want to earn with that try to withdraw it fast. lmao i dont think theres a websites that will last and will not going and become a scam it is still better to stay away from them they are a big mistakes in this world of crypto ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 26, 2016, 08:01:02 PM Last edit: July 22, 2016, 02:16:26 AM by yudy |
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i choose real mining but very dificult hunting site is true real mining but mining only hyip low profit, i think hyip high profit is better than bes is compare mining hyip iam lost much money and bitcoin is wrong invest if i think real mining truely only hyip lost money is bigger is hashprofit and hashocean
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June 27, 2016, 01:50:25 PM |
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i think we must stop invest at cloudmining and start mining with real hardware
that's a good idea , having your own mining is the best but it has a high energy consumption so it will give you a high electricity bill but it is much better that those fake cloud mining .
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