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June 07, 2016, 12:06:35 PM
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This is Sonia from Avalon team. You are one of our customer who bought our device Avalon6 in the beginning of this  year. I wonder if you have some problems during installing or using. How is bitcoin mining revenue ?  Your advice will help us improve our service and upcoming product Avalon 7.
Do you have future plan to reinvest in bitcoin mining field ?
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June 07, 2016, 01:02:46 PM
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I like what I am reading. However, I wonder how long it is going to take before the "upcoming product Avalon 7" is actually shipping.

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June 07, 2016, 01:06:03 PM
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Given how late they were saying they weren't working on 14/16nm, Christmas might not be a stretch.

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June 07, 2016, 01:09:06 PM
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Given how late they were saying they weren't working on 14/16nm, Christmas might not be a stretch.

Indeed. They had actively decided to sidestep this shitstorm of a generation and seems it was a good idea. Bitfury *appears* to have messed theirs up, Spondoolies died trying to raise money for it, KNC *appears* to have messed up it* and only Bitmain *appears* to have a successful public chip.

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June 07, 2016, 02:02:51 PM
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Email just came

Dear ,

This is Sonia from Avalon team. You are one of our customer who bought our device Avalon6 in the beginning of this  year. I wonder if you have some problems during installing or using. How is bitcoin mining revenue ?  Your advice will help us improve our service and upcoming product Avalon 7.
Do you have future plan to reinvest in bitcoin mining field ?
Feel free to contact Avalon team
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Dear Sonia,

I did 2 groups sales of about 40 units of avalon 6's

Good gear.  With a few faults.  You have 4 pcie jacks  and the gear can pull 1000 watts dc.  This means  250 watts dc per pcie jack.

If you next unit pulls the same 1000 watts dc  please use 6 pcie jacks.  So each one pulls  only about 170 watts.

Also the avalon 6  was a bit less efficient then the early s-7 .

If you could make the avalon 7 a littler better then the s-9  power efficient  wise please do so.

A 900 watt 10th machine with 6 pcie jacks would be ideal.


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June 07, 2016, 02:20:35 PM
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I hope they make a 400ish Watt unit.. that market has nothing at the moment..

(Although I am pretty sure you all know I want this lol)


This is good news, we need more ASIC companies.
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June 07, 2016, 02:38:06 PM
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I hope they make a 400ish Watt unit.. that market has nothing at the moment..

(Although I am pretty sure you all know I want this lol)


This is good news, we need more ASIC companies.

I could use a 400 watt one myself , but I am not sure they will build one.

A 900 watt  with 6 pcie jacks or better yet a 640 watt one with 4 pcie jacks is more likely .

I really want them to take a page from bitmaintech  which is the correct amount of btc jacks for the hash boards.

9 jacks on the s-9 and s-7  for about 1350 watts dc is about 150 watts a jack  truly much safer  then the:

 avalon 6      4 jacks 1000 watts 
 avalon 4.1   4 jacks 1000 watts

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June 07, 2016, 02:41:22 PM
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It is a pity , always one little step late than bitmain.
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June 07, 2016, 03:07:17 PM
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I hope they make a 400ish Watt unit.. that market has nothing at the moment..

(Although I am pretty sure you all know I want this lol)


This is good news, we need more ASIC companies.

I could use a 400 watt one myself , but I am not sure they will build one.

A 900 watt  with 6 pcie jacks or better yet a 640 watt one with 4 pcie jacks is more likely .

I really want them to take a page from bitmaintech  which is the correct amount of btc jacks for the hash boards.

9 jacks on the s-9 and s-7  for about 1350 watts dc is about 150 watts a jack  truly much safer  then the:

 avalon 6      4 jacks 1000 watts 
 avalon 4.1   4 jacks 1000 watts
Well at least Avalon seems to stay within the realm of possibility for the home mining community unlike the S7 and now S9 with their huge wattage requirement. 900w wouldn't be too bad hopefully they keep the sound down and not a vacuum on 24/7.


yeah  the 6s run on 1200 watt atx psu's.
 even on good 1000 watt atx psu's.

my biggest grip was the 4 jacks for 1000 watts.



if they make the 7 with 6 jacks and use 900 watts and do 10th  it would be superior to the s-9 

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June 07, 2016, 03:27:04 PM
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This is good news, we need more ASIC companies.

Yeah ! That's great news !
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June 07, 2016, 04:42:18 PM
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I hope they make a 400ish Watt unit.. that market has nothing at the moment..

(Although I am pretty sure you all know I want this lol)


This is good news, we need more ASIC companies.

I could use a 400 watt one myself , but I am not sure they will build one.

A 900 watt  with 6 pcie jacks or better yet a 640 watt one with 4 pcie jacks is more likely .

I really want them to take a page from bitmaintech  which is the correct amount of btc jacks for the hash boards.

9 jacks on the s-9 and s-7  for about 1350 watts dc is about 150 watts a jack  truly much safer  then the:

 avalon 6      4 jacks 1000 watts 
 avalon 4.1   4 jacks 1000 watts
Well at least Avalon seems to stay within the realm of possibility for the home mining community unlike the S7 and now S9 with their huge wattage requirement. 900w wouldn't be too bad hopefully they keep the sound down and not a vacuum on 24/7.


yeah  the 6s run on 1200 watt atx psu's.
 even on good 1000 watt atx psu's.

my biggest grip was the 4 jacks for 1000 watts.



if they make the 7 with 6 jacks and use 900 watts and do 10th  it would be superior to the s-9 
Definitely, a lot of hashes and a nice way for home miners to heat their home during the winter without overloading every socket or breaker. I would be interested for sure.

Yeah we know they charge a premium,  but  if made a little more like the avalon 4.1 then the avalon 6  especially if it is clearly under the 1000 watts.

850-925  watts max  scattered them around the house for the fall and winter.  They would capture the home market with ease.

I am looking forward to doing a group buy of these like I did for the avalon 6.

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June 07, 2016, 08:55:34 PM
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Given how late they were saying they weren't working on 14/16nm, Christmas might not be a stretch.

Indeed. They had actively decided to sidestep this shitstorm of a generation and seems it was a good idea. Bitfury *appears* to have messed theirs up, Spondoolies died trying to raise money for it, KNC *appears* to have messed up it* and only Bitmain *appears* to have a successful public chip.

Well, Bruh! I don't know how true this is but some people from my side India claim to have cut a deal with bitfury regarding their container and soon they're going to have a test run. According to this it seems like BF is still in business. Please correct me if I'm wrong. And I don't know why people claiming to invest $11.2M would lie.
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June 07, 2016, 09:37:30 PM
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all of you guys forgotten to mention the MOST IMPORTANT comment or request :

PRICE !

it has to be lower or equivalent to a S9 within the specs range.

TY Avalon team.

p/s : will be replacing & expanding mining ops, 30 x S9's in the plan. If A7 can beat it then I will most likely go for A7
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June 07, 2016, 10:27:47 PM
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all of you guys forgotten to mention the MOST IMPORTANT comment or request :

PRICE !

it has to be lower or equivalent to a S9 within the specs range.

TY Avalon team.

p/s : will be replacing & expanding mining ops, 30 x S9's in the plan. If A7 can beat it then I will most likely go for A7

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I saw the A6 as more expensive than the S7 based on $ per TH/s.  Not sure though.  I never bought one.  I would not be surprised if Avalon comes out with a miner that is around 9-11Th/s and .15 J/GH for $1600.
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June 07, 2016, 10:41:23 PM
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all of you guys forgotten to mention the MOST IMPORTANT comment or request :

PRICE !

it has to be lower or equivalent to a S9 within the specs range.

TY Avalon team.

p/s : will be replacing & expanding mining ops, 30 x S9's in the plan. If A7 can beat it then I will most likely go for A7

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I saw the A6 as more expensive than the S7 based on $ per TH/s.  Not sure though.  I never bought one.  I would not be surprised if Avalon comes out with a miner that is around 9-11Th/s and .15 J/GH for $1600.

It was higher priced but it kinda fitted a market other miners did not.  It was geared where 110/120 ATX psu's could power it up easily.  Also it was a "quieter" miner, not as quiet as the 4.1 but still quiet.

My big things would be what efficiency they hit with it.   And of course price per hash.
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June 07, 2016, 11:11:22 PM
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all of you guys forgotten to mention the MOST IMPORTANT comment or request :

PRICE !

it has to be lower or equivalent to a S9 within the specs range.

TY Avalon team.

p/s : will be replacing & expanding mining ops, 30 x S9's in the plan. If A7 can beat it then I will most likely go for A7

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I saw the A6 as more expensive than the S7 based on $ per TH/s.  Not sure though.  I never bought one.  I would not be surprised if Avalon comes out with a miner that is around 9-11Th/s and .15 J/GH for $1600.

I rather it do .9 watts  a gh.

the avalon 6's could get to .29 watts a gh
the later batch s-7's were .30 watts a gh
the older batch 2 s-7 I have could do .248 watts a th.

if the new avalon 7 could do .9 watts  say 900 watts for 10th better yet 875 watts per 10th it could cost more per gh the the newer s-9 and be worth it.

right now 14000 gh 2100 usd  =  15 cents a gh.   

 if the avalon 7 was 875 watts 10th  it would be okat at 17 cents a gh or 1700usd

if avalon would sell me 2 for 3400. but they need the specs above and I need them shipped right now.


 I would send the coins right now and do a free 25 photo spread on how they work.  and run a no profit for me group buy like I did for the sixes. 

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Given how late they were saying they weren't working on 14/16nm, Christmas might not be a stretch.

Indeed. They had actively decided to sidestep this shitstorm of a generation and seems it was a good idea. Bitfury *appears* to have messed theirs up, Spondoolies died trying to raise money for it, KNC *appears* to have messed up it* and only Bitmain *appears* to have a successful public chip.

Well, Bruh! I don't know how true this is but some people from my side India claim to have cut a deal with bitfury regarding their container and soon they're going to have a test run. According to this it seems like BF is still in business. Please correct me if I'm wrong. And I don't know why people claiming to invest $11.2M would lie.
If that is the case then it would explain the paucity of chips in the hands of other integrators. The container/data farm construction division of BitFury after all is a sister company of the chip division. Bet they got/are getting the lions share of chips from the limited number of wafers BF has received from TSMC so far.

No doubt the smaller integrators got some to play with and test out but....

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June 08, 2016, 01:18:57 AM
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all of you guys forgotten to mention the MOST IMPORTANT comment or request :

PRICE !

it has to be lower or equivalent to a S9 within the specs range.

TY Avalon team.

p/s : will be replacing & expanding mining ops, 30 x S9's in the plan. If A7 can beat it then I will most likely go for A7

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I saw the A6 as more expensive than the S7 based on $ per TH/s.  Not sure though.  I never bought one.  I would not be surprised if Avalon comes out with a miner that is around 9-11Th/s and .15 J/GH for $1600.

I rather it do .9 watts  a gh.

the avalon 6's could get to .29 watts a gh
the later batch s-7's were .30 watts a gh
the older batch 2 s-7 I have could do .248 watts a th.

if the new avalon 7 could do .9 watts  say 900 watts for 10th better yet 875 watts per 10th it could cost more per gh the the newer s-9 and be worth it.

right now 14000 gh 2100 usd  =  15 cents a gh.    

 if the avalon 7 was 875 watts 10th  it would be okat at 17 cents a gh or 1700usd

if avalon would sell me 2 for 3400. but they need the specs above and I need them shipped right now.


 I would send the coins right now and do a free 25 photo spread on how they work.  and run a no profit for me group buy like I did for the sixes.  

Unless Avalon reaches some 0.06w/gh or so, by the time the miner actually becomes released to the public, it'll probably be obsolete. Bitmain is months ahead (possibly) of everybody and EVEN Bitfury will be behind them. This will most likely be a useless miner and have no profit for anybody. If anything, if this is even 0.08w/gh it'll still be a waste of research and manufacturing. Not real optimistic about the avalon 7.

Who knows, by the time this thing comes out, Bitmain could be started on an even more efficient chip.
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all of you guys forgotten to mention the MOST IMPORTANT comment or request :

PRICE !

it has to be lower or equivalent to a S9 within the specs range.

TY Avalon team.

p/s : will be replacing & expanding mining ops, 30 x S9's in the plan. If A7 can beat it then I will most likely go for A7

 I don't believe Avalon has EVER matched Bitmain on a GH/$ basis, always have had a bit of a premium.


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Given how late they were saying they weren't working on 14/16nm, Christmas might not be a stretch.

Indeed. They had actively decided to sidestep this shitstorm of a generation and seems it was a good idea. Bitfury *appears* to have messed theirs up, Spondoolies died trying to raise money for it, KNC *appears* to have messed up it* and only Bitmain *appears* to have a successful public chip.

Well, Bruh! I don't know how true this is but some people from my side India claim to have cut a deal with bitfury regarding their container and soon they're going to have a test run. According to this it seems like BF is still in business. Please correct me if I'm wrong. And I don't know why people claiming to invest $11.2M would lie.
If that is happening then it would explain the paucity of chips in other integrators hands. The container/data farm construction division of BitFury is after all a sister company of the chip division. Bet they got the lions share of chips from the limited number of wafers BF has gotten from TSMC so far.

No doubt the smaller integrators got some to play with and test out but....

So, basically bitfury is going behind big bucks and not giving a fuck about decentralization. How ironic.
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