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March 07, 2013, 06:54:21 PM
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March 07, 2013, 06:55:51 PM
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Are all those addresses yours? Under your control, as in can you get the private keys for them?

BTW, You have a repeated address there, you say those are the 2 addresses from where you sent the coins, but it's only one address.
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March 07, 2013, 06:56:49 PM
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March 07, 2013, 07:00:58 PM
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http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=17Z2xL466Fc36ejEcn7BWosxUyFE259sEN&limit=100&min_bet=0&status=ALL

It looks like all your bets were loses.
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March 07, 2013, 07:01:37 PM
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I would say your winning transaction was orphaned/not confirmed because you probably double-spent your bet and then just vanished, as in, those bitcoins aren't yours. The address from where you sent the bets is the address where prizes are paid to, and clearly that address(17Z2xL466Fc36ejEcn7BWosxUyFE259sEN) never had more than 56.23650037 in it, from which 55.98450044 are still there.

What is the TX ID of the bet that won those 100 BTC?
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March 07, 2013, 07:10:50 PM
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You are allowed to send multiple bets. Your client will not send the same coins again, I think, but I'm not experienced with Multibit, so I don't know. Maybe you did a tx and blockchain reset and sent again some coins you had sent before and double-spent them.
But one of 2 things happened, your bet became invalid and disappeared(only explanation I can find for this is a double-spend), hence why the 100 BTC disappeared after you reset tx and blockchain, or you dreamt with the 100 BTC win Grin
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March 07, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
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You are allowed to send multiple bets. Your client will not send the same coins again, I think, but I'm not experienced with Multibit, so I don't know. Maybe you did a tx and blockchain reset and sent again some coins you had sent before and double-spent them.
But one of 2 things happened, your bet became invalid and disappeared(only explanation I can find for this is a double-spend), hence why the 100 BTC disappeared after you reset tx and blockchain, or you dreamt with the 100 BTC win Grin
If you look at this transaction then:
https://blockchain.info/sv/tx-index/58808409
The amount 9.73750014 BTC has been sent and verified to: 17Z2xL466Fc36ejEcn7BWosxUyFE259sEN

That is your change
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March 07, 2013, 07:23:55 PM
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You are allowed to send multiple bets. Your client will not send the same coins again, I think, but I'm not experienced with Multibit, so I don't know. Maybe you did a tx and blockchain reset and sent again some coins you had sent before and double-spent them.
But one of 2 things happened, your bet became invalid and disappeared(only explanation I can find for this is a double-spend), hence why the 100 BTC disappeared after you reset tx and blockchain, or you dreamt with the 100 BTC win Grin
If you look at this transaction then:
https://blockchain.info/sv/tx-index/58808409
The amount 9.73750014 BTC has been sent and verified to: 17Z2xL466Fc36ejEcn7BWosxUyFE259sEN

And what does that mean? Multibit only creates one address and uses it to send the change.
Or you have the tx ID of the bet that you supposedly won the 100 BTC from or nobody will be able to give you an answer.
Without a TX ID we can stay here all day long and you'll be none the wiser about what happened to those 100 BTC.
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March 07, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
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March 07, 2013, 07:26:41 PM
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You are allowed to send multiple bets. Your client will not send the same coins again, I think, but I'm not experienced with Multibit, so I don't know. Maybe you did a tx and blockchain reset and sent again some coins you had sent before and double-spent them.
But one of 2 things happened, your bet became invalid and disappeared(only explanation I can find for this is a double-spend), hence why the 100 BTC disappeared after you reset tx and blockchain, or you dreamt with the 100 BTC win Grin
If you look at this transaction then:
https://blockchain.info/sv/tx-index/58808409
The amount 9.73750014 BTC has been sent and verified to: 17Z2xL466Fc36ejEcn7BWosxUyFE259sEN

That is your change

What do you mean by change?
The amount I bet was 0.01.

That you did. What happened was that Multibit took 9.73750014 BTC from your account, took 0.01 BTC out of that and sent it to Satoshidice, then put 9.72700014 BTC back into your account.

Like little old ladies that can't see very well at supermarket cashiers.
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March 07, 2013, 07:27:37 PM
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You are allowed to send multiple bets. Your client will not send the same coins again, I think, but I'm not experienced with Multibit, so I don't know. Maybe you did a tx and blockchain reset and sent again some coins you had sent before and double-spent them.
But one of 2 things happened, your bet became invalid and disappeared(only explanation I can find for this is a double-spend), hence why the 100 BTC disappeared after you reset tx and blockchain, or you dreamt with the 100 BTC win Grin
If you look at this transaction then:
https://blockchain.info/sv/tx-index/58808409
The amount 9.73750014 BTC has been sent and verified to: 17Z2xL466Fc36ejEcn7BWosxUyFE259sEN

That is your change

What do you mean by change?
The amount I bet was 0.01.

I think you should read up a little on how bitcoin works before starting using it. It will save you some headaches in the future.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Change <--- Don't stop at that page, there is a whole wiki with information.

And don't come to me with the theory that people don't need to know how things work to use them.
Bitcoin isn't at that stage yet, as can be seen by the amount of requests for help from Newbies.
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March 07, 2013, 07:41:09 PM
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March 07, 2013, 07:55:14 PM
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You're interpreting Total received wrong.

Note: Illustration below ignores fees.

Let's say you have 0 BTC in your account.

Now someone sends you a BTC.

You send out that BTC to someone else who promptly sends it back to you.

Your Total Received is now 2 BTC, your Total sent 1 BTC and your final balance 1 BTC.
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March 07, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
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Because Multibit only generates one address and uses it to send transactions from and change to, so for every transaction out you have the remaining of that input going in again as change.

The wallet with the imported keys is not giving you the right value because it's not recognizing it as change, but if you look at the normal blockchain.info page for your address it does recognize what are the real transactions and change and gives you the correct value of 56.23650037 as all the bitcoins that have entered on that address coming from other addresses.
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