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June 08, 2016, 02:11:08 PM |
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Hi i just want to share my experience again. before i am looking for a good dice game that you can make profit.. but almost all dice game are base on luck or fraud.. i don't the real i can't verified all of the game because their site is not open source..
Now i found dice in yobit i just try with free coins in many altcoin.. i can make a profit with those altcoin so i try to deposit in try my luck in dice game using bitcoin but result is different i never made a profit.. unlike altcoins that i use to play in dice game.. i thought that i can make a profit yobit dice but it can drain fast i just win 4 times with bet of 0.008 each and lose all in 8 times.. so it means they are not provably fair..
Do you think guys all dice game are fraud?
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Shogen
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June 08, 2016, 02:20:57 PM |
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Hi i just want to share my experience again. before i am looking for a good dice game that you can make profit.. but almost all dice game are base on luck or fraud.. i don't the real i can't verified all of the game because their site is not open source..
Now i found dice in yobit i just try with free coins in many altcoin.. i can make a profit with those altcoin so i try to deposit in try my luck in dice game using bitcoin but result is different i never made a profit.. unlike altcoins that i use to play in dice game.. i thought that i can make a profit yobit dice but it can drain fast i just win 4 times with bet of 0.008 each and lose all in 8 times.. so it means they are not provably fair..
Do you think guys all dice game are fraud?
Yup Yobit is not provably fair. It is not because you have lost your bitcoin, but rather because there is no way you can check whether the bet results are modified or not. I suggest you to read https://dicesites.com/provably-fair to learn what the term means, and how you could verify your bets if you play on a provably fair site.
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Mauser
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June 08, 2016, 02:25:33 PM |
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I think you need more games to actually say if a site is fair or not. 12 is just not enough.
What other sites are you guys playing on?
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June 08, 2016, 02:28:29 PM |
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I have had played with yobit and i am able to see the result of my bet but what shorene told is correct that we cannot check whether the result which displayed is correct or not as they dont give you the result hash link. But i have tried some trick on yobit dice game and have won so many alt coins ,
one trick is that you should not play to much of time in yobit dice games, i play like some 4 or 5 times a game so i go mostly all in or with 25% of coin stock and till now i had much luck and won and came.
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DebitMe
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June 08, 2016, 02:28:52 PM |
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You need to do some research on casino's and what it means when a casino has negative and positive EV. Basically, the casino is always going to win in the long run, and we can prove that with math. Do some research and educate yourself on why a casino is in business and can continue to be in business. Only use a casino for entertainment and never gamble more than you can lose.
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lorylore
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June 08, 2016, 02:36:51 PM |
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Hi i just want to share my experience again. before i am looking for a good dice game that you can make profit.. but almost all dice game are base on luck or fraud.. i don't the real i can't verified all of the game because their site is not open source..
Now i found dice in yobit i just try with free coins in many altcoin.. i can make a profit with those altcoin so i try to deposit in try my luck in dice game using bitcoin but result is different i never made a profit.. unlike altcoins that i use to play in dice game.. i thought that i can make a profit yobit dice but it can drain fast i just win 4 times with bet of 0.008 each and lose all in 8 times.. so it means they are not provably fair..
Do you think guys all dice game are fraud?
Losing 8 in a row does not means it is fraud. I also have encounter losing 12-14 games in a row. However, you are just unlucky to encounter it earlier than expected. You can try again and see if it is the same situation.
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Herbert2020
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June 08, 2016, 02:44:06 PM |
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yobit dice doesn't even have a proof of their provably fair system and worse than that they don't have any other multiplier option and no autobet.
since i had some shitcoins from faucet there i have also tried their dice and interesting enough all the bets i made was with max balance and they were all losses!
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip. Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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June 08, 2016, 02:55:22 PM |
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I played my first dice game (also my first gambling with bitcoin) in Yobit since this exchange's signature campaign is my first one to joined here in this forum that's why I saw their DiceGame. It took me to a lucky day for about 0.05btc/day that start with 0.01btc capital that I got from campaign. Because that is my first time, I thought earning bitcoin is just a piece of cake. Until the streak ended on the 5th day and it totally wrecked even my following signature campaign earnings.
Until someone here explain to me that Yobit has really high edge (about 2% or higher) compare to other dice site. Back then there's no way we can also verify the provably fair of other dice sites.
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June 08, 2016, 03:17:56 PM |
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Hi i just want to share my experience again. before i am looking for a good dice game that you can make profit.. but almost all dice game are base on luck or fraud.. i don't the real i can't verified all of the game because their site is not open source..
Of course dice depends on luck, but at least you need to play it on provably fair dice sites instead of play it on yobit. Aside they are not provably fair, their house edge is also higher than other dice sites. There are many other better dice sites, so you can try your luck there.
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BitMaxz
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June 08, 2016, 03:28:50 PM |
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Yeah guys they have no provably fair to check if the bets are verified they have no randomized seed.. if thats the case they have 2% house edge why you are choosing it better to go in smallest houseedge primedice is one of the good dice game but honestly never made profit in dice games.. so the only thing that i can suugest to convert and play in sports betting because its easy to predict than dice game.. all my experience in dice game are loses...
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TraderETH
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June 08, 2016, 03:30:54 PM |
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Don't forget play gambling with you can lost it
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electronicash
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June 08, 2016, 03:31:13 PM |
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every bitcoin gambling site claim to be provably fair. but even so i don't trust such. if i own a gambling site, i might just set it up for users to lose every now and then. I'm not ti judge yobit but Of course owners wants to gain.
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June 08, 2016, 03:40:45 PM |
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with altcoins or with bitcoin i think all gambling results will be same LOST and provably fair or not it doesn't change anything because such as you said all dice game are base on luck and if you haven't luck i'm pretty sure your gambling results will be lost
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Edwardard
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June 08, 2016, 03:44:05 PM |
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no all dice games are not a fraud.you cannot put your angriness to any gambling site. yobit dice is a provably fair game. your luck was not with you so you lost the game. better luck next time.
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mia_houston
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June 08, 2016, 03:56:27 PM |
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i guees not recmended play there,,i also alwasy lose play dice there but i use shitcoin
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June 08, 2016, 03:59:51 PM |
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There are plenty of dice games that you can actually trust.
I'd avoid all sites that aren't provably fair (like Yobit for example) though just to be safe.
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socks435
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June 08, 2016, 04:12:33 PM |
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Extremely to don't recommend to play in yobit dice game because of their system betting you don't know how much is the house edge and you can not verify it.. so better to go in other provably fair site like primedice..
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Decided to end it with zer0 profit.
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Bitcoinbro
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June 08, 2016, 04:58:17 PM |
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You need to do some research on casino's and what it means when a casino has negative and positive EV. Basically, the casino is always going to win in the long run, and we can prove that with math. Do some research and educate yourself on why a casino is in business and can continue to be in business. Only use a casino for entertainment and never gamble more than you can lose.
You indeed always have to look at the trust ability of the casino you are playing on because, it can easily be a casino with weird algorithms..
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nikrobi
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June 08, 2016, 05:06:35 PM |
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I don't like to like Dice there very much because there is no option to increase chance to win, I prefer to play 52%, 72%, 90%... And they don't let us play with those strategies. I don't know if they cheat the Dice game, just don't play for much time there and you can make some profit. I usually just gamble there to make some money to pay the transactions fees.
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aakashsangwan
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June 08, 2016, 05:59:43 PM |
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If you want to play dice just for fun then do it with altcoins. It has lesser risk. Bitcoin halving is near and losing bitcoins is not a wise deal for anyone at this point of time. And I would not recommend yobit dice to anyone, I have always seen people losing in this game.
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