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June 09, 2016, 05:06:39 AM |
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hello, anyone can help me? i am confused now. 6/6/2016 i made transaction using blockchain and the transaction is unconfirmed for 2 days. yesterday i saw the amount back to my wallet and suddenly it appears again in my blockchain transaction. is there any way to cancel it stop broadcasting after rejection? or how long i have to wait the bitcoin back to my wallet? the hash transaction is fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9
for the worst case, will the bitcoin loss? because i am really confused now. anyone can help me will have a reward given.. =) cheers
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June 09, 2016, 05:27:12 AM |
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hello, anyone can help me? i am confused now. 6/6/2016 i made transaction using blockchain and the transaction is unconfirmed for 2 days. yesterday i saw the amount back to my wallet and suddenly it appears again in my blockchain transaction. is there any way to cancel it stop broadcasting after rejection? or how long i have to wait the bitcoin back to my wallet? the hash transaction is fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9
for the worst case, will the bitcoin loss? because i am really confused now. anyone can help me will have a reward given.. =) cheers
No you will not lose your bitcoin. Your transaction is unconfirmed because of the zero transaction fee. To solve the problem, the easiest way IMHO would be to create a new transaction with sufficient fee. You can do that by importing your private key to Electrum (or many other wallet clients) and create a new transaction. Edit: I haven't used blockchain.info for ages. In the new layout I don't seem to be able to export the private keys in my test wallet created just now lol.
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June 09, 2016, 05:31:52 AM |
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There's one input and two outputs, so Dannie is correct, you could use the private key for 1NHY2JHJUbnkhhu1ziNdcs8fhKt6HtR6WS to create a new transaction using the input of 1.77844113BTC to generate two outputs (one to 127kYuzS1MvxNqcBUaPdPsw1RBfEKVEyND and one to a change address). you could do this by exporting the private key, downloading the sourcecode of coinb.in and using this tool to create a new transaction. There are several other ways of doing this. You might be able to do this with electrum to (don't know). If you need a how-to, let me know.
You do realise you used the change to create a new transaction, right?
The output of the unconfirmed tx fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9 is used as input of tx fcaba03f4c4929c949aec9bbda7028e4414a88ad61823d675b48eb94dad2c881
The output of fcaba03f4c4929c949aec9bbda7028e4414a88ad61823d675b48eb94dad2c881 is used as input of afb131a031cd58a9cefb5afdc868c91534ca1afeade70e0b2d152e3cefee72fd
The output of afb131a031cd58a9cefb5afdc868c91534ca1afeade70e0b2d152e3cefee72fd is used as input of 8f464213ffac4a9b38b2cd1e98b22a1b1be004bf4f79f2c84fb891b560660606
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June 09, 2016, 05:35:59 AM |
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okay, thanks for the reply. can you explain more about this sentences? " the easiest way IMHO would be to create a new transaction with sufficient fee. You can do that by importing your private key to Electrum (or many other wallet clients) and create a new transaction. " and you said you dont know how to get the private key of blockchain? hmm i think if you cant find, not even me. since i am newbie.. =( if my bitcoin will not loss. will it back to my address? hello, anyone can help me? i am confused now. 6/6/2016 i made transaction using blockchain and the transaction is unconfirmed for 2 days. yesterday i saw the amount back to my wallet and suddenly it appears again in my blockchain transaction. is there any way to cancel it stop broadcasting after rejection? or how long i have to wait the bitcoin back to my wallet? the hash transaction is fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9
for the worst case, will the bitcoin loss? because i am really confused now. anyone can help me will have a reward given.. =) cheers
No you will not lose your bitcoin. Your transaction is unconfirmed because of the zero transaction fee. To solve the problem, the easiest way IMHO would be to create a new transaction with sufficient fee. You can do that by importing your private key to Electrum (or many other wallet clients) and create a new transaction. Edit: I haven't used blockchain.info for ages. In the new layout I don't seem to be able to export the private keys in my test wallet created just now lol.
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June 09, 2016, 05:42:25 AM |
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That is for the old layout on the wallet page on blockchain.info I believe. As the second line on that github page states, " Note: This guide is NOT applicable to blockchain.info's new 'Beta' Wallets. At this time we are working on a new way to support these wallets.", I am afraid it doesn't work for the new wallet. OP, have you tried logging in your blockchain.info account on https://blockchain.info/wallet-legacy/login ? If you are able to do that, you could follow the steps 1 - 9 listed in that github page to get your private keys.
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June 09, 2016, 05:42:56 AM |
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yeah, i saw it. so means the root of the problem is TX fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9 right? so can you teach me how to create a private key and create new transaction?? thank you.. i hope you and danny can solve this. i am really stressed.. There's one input and two outputs, so Dannie is correct, you could use the private key for 1NHY2JHJUbnkhhu1ziNdcs8fhKt6HtR6WS to create a new transaction using the input of 1.77844113BTC to generate two outputs (one to 127kYuzS1MvxNqcBUaPdPsw1RBfEKVEyND and one to a change address). you could do this by exporting the private key, downloading the sourcecode of coinb.in and using this tool to create a new transaction. There are several other ways of doing this. You might be able to do this with electrum to (don't know). If you need a how-to, let me know.
You do realise you used the change to create a new transaction, right?
The output of the unconfirmed tx fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9 is used as input of tx fcaba03f4c4929c949aec9bbda7028e4414a88ad61823d675b48eb94dad2c881
The output of fcaba03f4c4929c949aec9bbda7028e4414a88ad61823d675b48eb94dad2c881 is used as input of afb131a031cd58a9cefb5afdc868c91534ca1afeade70e0b2d152e3cefee72fd
The output of afb131a031cd58a9cefb5afdc868c91534ca1afeade70e0b2d152e3cefee72fd is used as input of 8f464213ffac4a9b38b2cd1e98b22a1b1be004bf4f79f2c84fb891b560660606
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June 09, 2016, 05:49:36 AM |
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yeah, i saw it. so means the root of the problem is TX fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9 right? so can you teach me how to create a private key and create new transaction?? thank you.. i hope you and danny can solve this. i am really stressed..
Well, the main problem is indeed the first transaction, you've used an unconfirmed input to generate outputs three times, so tx fcaba03f4c4929c949aec9bbda7028e4414a88ad61823d675b48eb94dad2c881 afb131a031cd58a9cefb5afdc868c91534ca1afeade70e0b2d152e3cefee72fd and 8f464213ffac4a9b38b2cd1e98b22a1b1be004bf4f79f2c84fb891b560660606 cannot be confirmed before fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9 is confirmed i'm afraid. @Dannie: you seem to be correct, it was the procedure for the "old" blockchain.info wallet... I don't use blockchain.info very often, so i didn't really follow the hype around the new wallet. I tried searching for a tutorial on how to export keys from the beta version, but i couldn't find one i'm afraid... Maybe OP can contact blockchain.info's support and explain the situation, ask them how he can export his Pk? One extra thing: doesn't blockchain.info stop broadcasting unconfirmed transactions after a while? In that case OP only has to wait... I'm not sure about this, maybe a blockchain.info expert can shed some light on this?
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You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hex
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windylouw (OP)
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June 09, 2016, 06:07:53 AM |
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lucky i havent upgrade my wallet become beta version. so i may able to follow the step that given to get the private key. but after get the private key, any steps to get the transaction done? thank you for helping me. =) That is for the old layout on the wallet page on blockchain.info I believe. As the second line on that github page states, " Note: This guide is NOT applicable to blockchain.info's new 'Beta' Wallets. At this time we are working on a new way to support these wallets.", I am afraid it doesn't work for the new wallet. OP, have you tried logging in your blockchain.info account on https://blockchain.info/wallet-legacy/login ? If you are able to do that, you could follow the steps 1 - 9 listed in that github page to get your private keys.
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June 09, 2016, 06:17:52 AM |
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lucky i havent upgrade my wallet become beta version. so i may able to follow the step that given to get the private key. but after get the private key, any steps to get the transaction done? thank you for helping me. =)
Well... shorena has a really good point, it might be a good idear to just wait it out.If there is urgency, i'll explain my method on how to create a double spend (spend the same input you used for fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9, so the other transactions will be cancelled, or however it's called). This is the method i use, it works for me, it might not be the best method around, and you can basically do a lot of things wrong, so it might not be the best method for everybody!!!- go to coinb.in, download the sourcecode to your computer, unzip, open the index.html on a computer connected to the internet - go to new -> transaction - enter your address, click load - go to the inputs-tab, remove all inputs exept the input of 1.77844113BTC - go to the outputs-tab, enter 127kYuzS1MvxNqcBUaPdPsw1RBfEKVEyND and the ammount of bitcoins you wish to send to this address - ALSO enter your change address 1NHY2JHJUbnkhhu1ziNdcs8fhKt6HtR6WS, send (1.77844113 - the ammount you sent to 127kYuzS1MvxNqcBUaPdPsw1RBfEKVEyND - a decent fee) back to yourself. A decent fee can be calculated by looking at the size of the transaction in bytes (you might need to do a testrun for this) and multiply it by 50 satoshi's (look here for the exact amount to multiply with: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/) - click submit - copy the output - disconnect your pc from the internet - go to the sign-tab, paste the output and your private key, click submit, copy the output to a textfile - reboot, reopen the index.html - open the textfile, copy the text - go to the broadcast-tab, paste the text, click on broadcast BEFORE YOU BROADCAST, paste the text in this thread, let us have a look at it... You can past all outputs here so we can verify DO NOT SHOW US YOUR PRIVATE KEY!!!!!!!-
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June 09, 2016, 06:20:07 AM |
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if the transaction is rejected. i think it is better not to rebroadcast it? am i right? because when it is rebroadcast, if stuck again, then need to wait again. am i right? but if when rebroadcast and get confirmed then that is great. i will not try the double spend way. because i have read some testimoni that is not easy. You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hex
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June 09, 2016, 06:24:41 AM |
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if the transaction is rejected. i think it is better not to rebroadcast it? am i right? because when it is rebroadcast, if stuck again, then need to wait again. am i right? but if when rebroadcast and get confirmed then that is great. i will not try the double spend way. because i have read some testimoni that is not easy. You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hexDouble spending is just like canceling your first transaction and create a new one. Like altcoinhosting said, it is do-able, but all steps must be done correctly in order to get it done. I think shorena's option is the best, but by far not the quickest, because u need luck that ur transaction will get confirmed. If shorena's option doesn't workout, I would do a double spend, but first let's wait for shorena. Also don't send anyone your private keys, not even to trusted people.
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June 09, 2016, 06:28:56 AM |
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yes. if the transaction is rejected. the bitcoin will back to my balance like yesterday happened. but after around 1 hours, i am login to my wallet again, i saw the transaction again with the date of 08/06/2016. so i just confused, if i leave it, when the bitcoin back to my wallet, do it will resend again? or no? or maybe i have to prepare when it back, i send it out with fee to my other wallet to get it safe? thank you for replying. really need help. You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hex
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June 09, 2016, 06:43:12 AM |
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yes. if the transaction is rejected. the bitcoin will back to my balance like yesterday happened. but after around 1 hours, i am login to my wallet again, i saw the transaction again with the date of 08/06/2016. so i just confused, if i leave it, when the bitcoin back to my wallet, do it will resend again? or no? or maybe i have to prepare when it back, i send it out with fee to my other wallet to get it safe? thank you for replying. really need help. You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hexWhen the bitcoins get returned to you wallet, then send it with the recommended fee to your other wallet or keep it in the wallet u have now. If u send a transaction without fee it has no priority in the network and it is based on luck when it will get confirmed. On blockchain.info there is an option to use the recommended fee amount, so don't worry about that.
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You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hexThat makes perfect sense. I suggested OP to create a new transaction because I thought it would be the easiest (for me) and fastest (again, for me) way, but I did not take into consideration that OP has no experience and little understanding on the procedure. On second thought, it may be quite difficult for a new bitcoin user and many things could go wrong. My bad.
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June 09, 2016, 06:54:05 AM |
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yes. if the transaction is rejected. the bitcoin will back to my balance like yesterday happened. but after around 1 hours, i am login to my wallet again, i saw the transaction again with the date of 08/06/2016. so i just confused, if i leave it, when the bitcoin back to my wallet, do it will resend again? or no? or maybe i have to prepare when it back, i send it out with fee to my other wallet to get it safe? thank you for replying. really need help. You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hexWhen the bitcoins get returned to you wallet, then send it with the recommended fee to your other wallet or keep it in the wallet u have now. If u send a transaction without fee it has no priority in the network and it is based on luck when it will get confirmed. On blockchain.info there is an option to use the recommended fee amount, so don't worry about that. yes. i am wondering when it will back to my wallet.. will it be unconfirmed forever? hahah (because i am newbie, not really understand) actually i am using 0.0001 btc for the fee, but when i transfer the first unconfirm transaction, i saw the bar in quick send section in blockchain is quite stuck in the middle and get full. after that i check my transaction, i though the transaction fail, but it is transferred but with 0 fee. really confusing. by the way, thank you for all the reply. i am really appreciate it. my first option is maybe wait whether it is rejected or confirmed. second maybe i will do the private key. (but i am not sure i can do it right)
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yes. if the transaction is rejected. the bitcoin will back to my balance like yesterday happened. but after around 1 hours, i am login to my wallet again, i saw the transaction again with the date of 08/06/2016. so i just confused, if i leave it, when the bitcoin back to my wallet, do it will resend again? or no? or maybe i have to prepare when it back, i send it out with fee to my other wallet to get it safe? thank you for replying. really need help. You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hexWhen the bitcoins get returned to you wallet, then send it with the recommended fee to your other wallet or keep it in the wallet u have now. If u send a transaction without fee it has no priority in the network and it is based on luck when it will get confirmed. On blockchain.info there is an option to use the recommended fee amount, so don't worry about that. yes. i am wondering when it will back to my wallet.. will it be unconfirmed forever? hahah (because i am newbie, not really understand) actually i am using 0.0001 btc for the fee, but when i transfer the first unconfirm transaction, i saw the bar in quick send section in blockchain is quite stuck in the middle and get full. after that i check my transaction, i though the transaction fail, but it is transferred but with 0 fee. really confusing. by the way, thank you for all the reply. i am really appreciate it. my first option is maybe wait whether it is rejected or confirmed. second maybe i will do the private key. (but i am not sure i can do it right) The transaction will remain on the network if someone or the client rebroadcast it periodically. This makes it impossible for a new traansaction spending the same inputs getting relayed by all the nodes. In this case, Shorena is helping you to rebroadcast it every 10 minutes to allow for more mining pools to have a knowledge of your TX. Another method is to request a mining pool to mine it for you if the first 2 doesn't work out.
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June 09, 2016, 07:52:23 AM |
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yes. if the transaction is rejected. the bitcoin will back to my balance like yesterday happened. but after around 1 hours, i am login to my wallet again, i saw the transaction again with the date of 08/06/2016. so i just confused, if i leave it, when the bitcoin back to my wallet, do it will resend again? or no? or maybe i have to prepare when it back, i send it out with fee to my other wallet to get it safe? thank you for replying. really need help. You send me a PM so I will post my view here. The inputs has a high (> 1 BTC) value and thus has a chance (even though its low) to get confirmed without a fee. Since this is the easiest solution that does not require anyone handling any unprotected private keys and you appear to be rather helpless in terms of private keys. I will rebroadcast the raw tx[1] every 10 minutes with my node. This makes sure that the transaction is well known within the network and gives it a higher chance to get confirmed. If its confirmed or you rather want to try a more complex double spend please send me a PM so I can stop the script. [1] as found here https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9?format=hexWhen the bitcoins get returned to you wallet, then send it with the recommended fee to your other wallet or keep it in the wallet u have now. If u send a transaction without fee it has no priority in the network and it is based on luck when it will get confirmed. On blockchain.info there is an option to use the recommended fee amount, so don't worry about that. yes. i am wondering when it will back to my wallet.. will it be unconfirmed forever? hahah (because i am newbie, not really understand) actually i am using 0.0001 btc for the fee, but when i transfer the first unconfirm transaction, i saw the bar in quick send section in blockchain is quite stuck in the middle and get full. after that i check my transaction, i though the transaction fail, but it is transferred but with 0 fee. really confusing. by the way, thank you for all the reply. i am really appreciate it. my first option is maybe wait whether it is rejected or confirmed. second maybe i will do the private key. (but i am not sure i can do it right) The transaction will remain on the network if someone or the client rebroadcast it periodically. This makes it impossible for a new traansaction spending the same inputs getting relayed by all the nodes. In this case, Shorena is helping you to rebroadcast it every 10 minutes to allow for more mining pools to have a knowledge of your TX. Another method is to request a mining pool to mine it for you if the first 2 doesn't work out. Any idea to do the suggestion you give? "Another method is to request a mining pool to mine it for you if the first 2 doesn't work out." So you mean the transaction will be keep on network and will not rejected?
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June 09, 2016, 07:57:53 AM |
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Any idea to do the suggestion you give? "Another method is to request a mining pool to mine it for you if the first 2 doesn't work out."
So you mean the transaction will be keep on network and will not rejected?
I suppose what ranochingo is saying is: you could contact a couple big mining pool operators, and offer them a bounty to include your transaction in the next block they mine. I've seen this proposition many times before, but i cannot remember if somebody suggested which pool operator was open to such offers. A miner can chose which transaction he'll include in the block he's mining, so this tip does makes sense if you find a big pool operator willing to help you out.
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