Counting cards ? Reducing odds of losing ? Is it real ?

[JasonXG]

Counting cards. We all have heard about it, most probably we all have seen it on TV. Apparently casino owners don't like it. But exactly how useful is counting cards. I saw it on American dad the other day while watching Netflix and it got me thinking and I become very interested.

Is card counting advantageous ? On paper it certainly sounds very good.

Is it simply a myth ?

If it is real/true how much advantage do you actually get if any at all ?

[eternalgloom]

Counting cards. We all have heard about it, most probably we all have seen it on TV. Apparently casino owners don't like it. But exactly how useful is counting cards. I saw it on American dad the other day while watching Netflix and it got me thinking and I become very interested.

Is card counting advantageous ? On paper it certainly sounds very good.

Is it simply a myth ?

If it is real/true how much advantage do you actually get if any at all ?

It's definitely real and casinos don't like it and afaik they can remove + ban you from the casino if they find out.
Have you not heard about the MIT blackjack team? There was a movie about it.

You can find out more on the wiki page:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_Blackjack_Team

[Rubberduckie]

Counting cards. We all have heard about it, most probably we all have seen it on TV. Apparently casino owners don't like it. But exactly how useful is counting cards. I saw it on American dad the other day while watching Netflix and it got me thinking and I become very interested.

Is card counting advantageous ? On paper it certainly sounds very good.

Is it simply a myth ?

If it is real/true how much advantage do you actually get if any at all ?

It's definitely real and casinos don't like it and afaik they can remove + ban you from the casino if they find out.
Have you not heard about the MIT blackjack team? There was a movie about it.

You can find out more on the wiki page:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_Blackjack_Team

the movie about it is called 21

its a great movie I loved it (kevin spacey) is in it. Its based on that Mit true
story

[seuntjie]

Card counting is very real and can be very advantageous for the gambler and is relatively easy if you practice it a bit. Doing it discreetly and not getting caught might need some acting skills though.

Something to note though: Card counting requires multiple decks shuffled together and consecutive games being played from the same deck until it runs out. This means it can only work at a physical casino using real cards. Digital poker and blackjack shuffle a new deck /sets of decks for every game

[SyGambler]

counting cards doesn't only reduce the odds of losing , it actually gives the player the edge over the casino
it's hard a lot and casinos these days are more aware of such things , but yeah there are many stories about players who succeeded to beat the casinos in the past

[xuan87]

Its  real and its very advantageous technique that even casino need to banned the person from get inside of the casino, but its very difficult and complicated technique to master, but if you succeed you can become millionaire just in 1 night

[iv4n]

It`s not a myth, but its really hard to count cards. Did you ever try simple game with cards. You take all deck and you have just 2 seconds per card, then you try to remember how they are lined? Well try and tell us how much cards did you remember.

And that was easy, you were concentrated on that. But under casino lights, million sounds around, real money in front of you, watchin about who knows how many things.. and in that moment try to count cards. Well its very very hard thing to do. You need to have good memory, and to practice it a lot.

[eternalgloom]

It`s not a myth, but its really hard to count cards. Did you ever try simple game with cards. You take all deck and you have just 2 seconds per card, then you try to remember how they are lined? Well try and tell us how much cards did you remember.

And that was easy, you were concentrated on that. But under casino lights, million sounds around, real money in front of you, watchin about who knows how many things.. and in that moment try to count cards. Well its very very hard thing to do. You need to have good memory, and to practice it a lot.

Card counting is very real and can be very advantageous for the gambler and is relatively easy if you practice it a bit. Doing it discreetly and not getting caught might need some acting skills though.

Something to note though: Card counting requires multiple decks shuffled together and consecutive games being played from the same deck until it runs out. This means it can only work at a physical casino using real cards. Digital poker and blackjack shuffle a new deck /sets of decks for every game

So what is it? One person says it's relativily easy and one says it's hard..
I've heard there are some tricks that make it indeed pretty easy to learn.

[PeRo]

It is a real method on trying to 'cheat' the game and win money. Altough you see it is possible on films and TV, it's not flawless. It is impossible to count all cards and winning all rounds, no one has ever done that.

But, you can count it to decrease loss chances and it improves your game by 50%- 80% depending on the method you use.

I myself use 2 card counting methods and they aren't always flawless as you think, but it does improve your game and you can actually earn some money out of it.
But be careful if you use it. It is legal because you aren'r really cheating, but the casino manager can kick you out for life.

Also, you have easy methods which improve your game by a little, and you have harder which give you a bigger chance.

[BitMaxz]

interesting method never heard this counting cards but i just watching it the video just now here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHqk-YchWCM
This is only works in blackjack? the normal odds is 2% so if you use counting cards it will drops to 0.5% or little tiny ods..

[srgkrgkj]

its a real technique but it only gives you a slight edge normally house edge is around 2 but counting cards lets you get a 0.5 or something edge still up to chance tho

[seuntjie]

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

[srgkrgkj]

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

nice explanation mate simpler than youtube tutorials lol its applicable to online bitcoin casinos too right ? I know about it irl it works

[Fortify]

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

nice explanation mate simpler than youtube tutorials lol its applicable to online bitcoin casinos too right ? I know about it irl it works

That is a great explanation for real world casinos but is not applicable to a majority of web games. Online casinos work with random number generators and the house edge is hard coded into the game at some stage - long term you will lose, short term you might gain.

[BitMaxz]

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

So this method is just not in poker and it can also use in poker games? if thats the case its hard to apply this method in poker.
Maybe there is other explanation methods if it will apply it in poker..
This methods is interesting and i already try it in poker. looks like i can master this method and make a profit.. just now i experience of making a profit in poker..  i will wait for other explanation for poker i will try it too..

[thermost]

It's real if the deck is not shuffled after every hand. Then you can count card with simple algo:
Low cards: 2-6 are counted as +1
Medimu cards: 7,8,9 are counted as 0
High cards: Ace, 10, K J, Q are counted as -1

So you count all cards on table, every hand, and then when the counting is high, you raise your bet amount.
But it's worthless at online casinos, because all shuffle deck every time.

[seuntjie]

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

nice explanation mate simpler than youtube tutorials lol its applicable to online bitcoin casinos too right ? I know about it irl it works

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

nice explanation mate simpler than youtube tutorials lol its applicable to online bitcoin casinos too right ? I know about it irl it works

That is a great explanation for real world casinos but is not applicable to a majority of web games. Online casinos work with random number generators and the house edge is hard coded into the game at some stage - long term you will lose, short term you might gain.

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

So this method is just not in poker and it can also use in poker games? if thats the case its hard to apply this method in poker.
Maybe there is other explanation methods if it will apply it in poker..
This methods is interesting and i already try it in poker. looks like i can master this method and make a profit.. just now i experience of making a profit in poker..  i will wait for other explanation for poker i will try it too..

See my first post in this thread:

Card counting is very real and can be very advantageous for the gambler and is relatively easy if you practice it a bit. Doing it discreetly and not getting caught might need some acting skills though.

Something to note though: Card counting requires multiple decks shuffled together and consecutive games being played from the same deck until it runs out. This means it can only work at a physical casino using real cards. Digital poker and blackjack shuffle a new deck /sets of decks for every game

[JasonXG]

Counting cards. We all have heard about it, most probably we all have seen it on TV. Apparently casino owners don't like it. But exactly how useful is counting cards. I saw it on American dad the other day while watching Netflix and it got me thinking and I become very interested.

Is card counting advantageous ? On paper it certainly sounds very good.

Is it simply a myth ?

If it is real/true how much advantage do you actually get if any at all ?

It's definitely real and casinos don't like it and afaik they can remove + ban you from the casino if they find out.
Have you not heard about the MIT blackjack team? There was a movie about it.

You can find out more on the wiki page:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_Blackjack_Team

I know you can be banned haha uptight casino owners, but that's about all i know. Thanks for the link it helps alot and answers many questions. It is so very interesting. I think i will watch that movie too. Thanks again

interesting method never heard this counting cards but i just watching it the video just now here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHqk-YchWCM
This is only works in blackjack? the normal odds is 2% so if you use counting cards it will drops to 0.5% or little tiny ods..

I'm really bad at blackjack xP

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

How does one count cards anyway ? I think it is better with a friend ? Also can the same be applied online ?

[Snorek]

Counting cards is legit strategy and help you win a bit more. But I never had the patience to learn thid method. And I honestly have no idea if this is applicable in online Black Jack.
I found this tutorial and I go going through it now. It might be helpful for some people: http://www.wikihow.com/Count-Cards

[seuntjie]

Most people think that counting cards is memorizing the order they are in and exactly what has been played/still need to be played. This is not true. To count cards you need to remember 3 basic rules:

10+: -1
7-9: 0
2-6: +1

That's it. When a deck is shuffled, the count is 0. For every card that is played, add the cards value (-1, 0, +1) to the count. For example if a jack is played, -1 from the count, or if a 2 is played, add 1 to the count. when a decks count is very high, it means there are many more high cards left in the deck which makes it more likely for the house to bust.

So how hard is it to go: 0+1=1
1+1 =2
2+1=3
3+0=3
3+1=4
4-1=3
3-+1=4


Edit: This is applicable to blackjack. I'm not 100% certain how it works for poker, but I'd assume it works something similar.

How does one count cards anyway ? I think it is better with a friend ? Also can the same be applied online ?

The post you quoted explains the basics of counting cards... Having 1 player that count the cards and notifies the other player when the count is high works well.

Also, the post literally just above yours quotes a post that says it cannot be applied online because online games shuffles the deck after every game