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June 09, 2016, 07:35:49 PM
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I don't know how to create properly sign message but I created this on coinbase hope it's work

this is PHS from bitcointalk forum looking for 0.35 btc loans to be repaid after 7 days and 540+ waves coins for collateral
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June 09, 2016, 07:50:24 PM
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Not a sufficient and stable collateral
Waves coin ICO just finished around 8 days ago
This is the most sensitive moment where most of the coins crashes
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June 09, 2016, 07:57:11 PM
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Not a sufficient and stable collateral
Waves coin ICO just finished around 8 days ago
This is the most sensitive moment where most of the coins crashes

Ok, I edited Sorry, I need 0.35 loans need it badly Sad

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June 09, 2016, 07:59:14 PM
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You over evaluate the value of your Waves, ICO price was around 0.0003, so basically your collateral is worth 0.15, all you can ask for is a loan of 0.12 and still you can not transfer the WAves to be held as collateral complicating things even more.
When Waves tokens ar transferable I will be happy to give you a loan for your Waves collateral.
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June 09, 2016, 08:01:47 PM
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Is there already a way to transfer waves,  can't see any transfer option in my ICO account, are you going to transfer ico account login details?

And how much are you willing to pay as interest?

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June 09, 2016, 08:02:24 PM
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You over evaluate the value of your Waves, ICO price was around 0.0003, so basically your collateral is worth 0.15, all you can ask for is a loan of 0.12 and still you can not transfer the WAves to be held as collateral complicating things even more.
When Waves tokens ar transferable I will be happy to give you a loan for your Waves collateral.

Waves coins is 0.0007 each not 0.0003 dude, Also I can give the account Smiley

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June 09, 2016, 08:03:00 PM
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Is there already a way to transfer waves,  can't see any transfer option in my ICO account, are you going to transfer ico account login details?

And how much are you willing to pay as interest?

It will be 0.03 interest Smiley

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June 09, 2016, 08:59:48 PM
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I will do this loan, however I can not find anywhere where I can transfer the WAVE for holding.  If you can give me an exchange I can hold the collateral in, then I will do this loan with 10% interest.

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June 10, 2016, 01:48:18 AM
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You over evaluate the value of your Waves, ICO price was around 0.0003, so basically your collateral is worth 0.15, all you can ask for is a loan of 0.12 and still you can not transfer the WAves to be held as collateral complicating things even more.
When Waves tokens ar transferable I will be happy to give you a loan for your Waves collateral.

Waves coins is 0.0007 each not 0.0003 dude, Also I can give the account Smiley

Well its not even 0.0007. Its 0.00065 I think And with that price 540 waves only costs 0.35 which is the new amount you are asking for
The collateral must have a stable value of more than 120% of the loan request

A new coin can never have a stable value and everyone knows that
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June 10, 2016, 05:14:28 AM
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Got a pm from him. Don't know why people requests for loan in pm. They fear to talk in public ?

Hellow Sir Smiley

If I loan 0.2 BTC is that ok for 540+ waves coins as a collateral?

I need a money Sir Sad

I can give you my ico waves account Sir

Sorry can't take risk with a new coin. I have lost most of my bitcoin in new coins
Also your loan request seems a bit suspicious to me. when you need only 0.2 btc then why you asked for 0.5 at the beginning
First 0.5 btc, when failed decreased the request to 0.35 btc and now 0.2 btc

What's the matter man ?
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June 10, 2016, 08:29:49 AM
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You over evaluate the value of your Waves, ICO price was around 0.0003, so basically your collateral is worth 0.15, all you can ask for is a loan of 0.12 and still you can not transfer the WAves to be held as collateral complicating things even more.
When Waves tokens ar transferable I will be happy to give you a loan for your Waves collateral.

Waves coins is 0.0007 each not 0.0003 dude, Also I can give the account Smiley

Well its not even 0.0007. Its 0.00065 I think And with that price 540 waves only costs 0.35 which is the new amount you are asking for
The collateral must have a stable value of more than 120% of the loan request

A new coin can never have a stable value and everyone knows that

It's simple math my friend 85 Million Waves on ICO sold for 30 Thousand BTC 30.000/85.000.000=0.000356 BTC/Wave is the ICO price
Yobit and Bloombit prices don't count.
When the lite client is launched and transfer of Waves is assured, I may fill the loan for 0.15 BTC and that's being generous. Other conditions might be added later when making the deal depending on the state of Waves mainnet.
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June 10, 2016, 08:32:44 AM
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Got a pm from him. Don't know why people requests for loan in pm. They fear to talk in public ?

Hellow Sir Smiley

If I loan 0.2 BTC is that ok for 540+ waves coins as a collateral?

I need a money Sir Sad

I can give you my ico waves account Sir

Sorry can't take risk with a new coin. I have lost most of my bitcoin in new coins
Also your loan request seems a bit suspicious to me. when you need only 0.2 btc then why you asked for 0.5 at the beginning
First 0.5 btc, when failed decreased the request to 0.35 btc and now 0.2 btc

What's the matter man ?

I decreased the loan because I need money now Sad

You over evaluate the value of your Waves, ICO price was around 0.0003, so basically your collateral is worth 0.15, all you can ask for is a loan of 0.12 and still you can not transfer the WAves to be held as collateral complicating things even more.
When Waves tokens ar transferable I will be happy to give you a loan for your Waves collateral.

Waves coins is 0.0007 each not 0.0003 dude, Also I can give the account Smiley

Well its not even 0.0007. Its 0.00065 I think And with that price 540 waves only costs 0.35 which is the new amount you are asking for
The collateral must have a stable value of more than 120% of the loan request

A new coin can never have a stable value and everyone knows that

It's simple math my friend 85 Million Waves on ICO sold for 30 Thousand BTC 30.000/85.000.000=0.000356 BTC/Wave is the ICO price
Yobit and Bloombit prices don't count.
When the lite client is launched and transfer of Waves is assured, I may fill the loan for 0.15 BTC and that's being generous. Other conditions might be added later when making the deal depending on the state of Waves mainnet.

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June 10, 2016, 09:01:54 AM
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I would buy your waves for 0.2 BTC if you interested instead of loaning you that amount.
Escrow is a must in case .

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June 10, 2016, 09:29:21 AM
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You over evaluate the value of your Waves, ICO price was around 0.0003, so basically your collateral is worth 0.15, all you can ask for is a loan of 0.12 and still you can not transfer the WAves to be held as collateral complicating things even more.
When Waves tokens ar transferable I will be happy to give you a loan for your Waves collateral.

Waves coins is 0.0007 each not 0.0003 dude, Also I can give the account Smiley

Well its not even 0.0007. Its 0.00065 I think And with that price 540 waves only costs 0.35 which is the new amount you are asking for
The collateral must have a stable value of more than 120% of the loan request

A new coin can never have a stable value and everyone knows that

It's simple math my friend 85 Million Waves on ICO sold for 30 Thousand BTC 30.000/85.000.000=0.000356 BTC/Wave is the ICO price
Yobit and Bloombit prices don't count.
When the lite client is launched and transfer of Waves is assured, I may fill the loan for 0.15 BTC and that's being generous. Other conditions might be added later when making the deal depending on the state of Waves mainnet.

Oh I think I missed in maths. I knew the total ICO amount was 30000 btc and distributed coins 85 million but mistaken in calculation
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June 10, 2016, 09:36:29 AM
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I would buy your waves for 0.2 BTC if you interested instead of loaning you that amount.
Escrow is a must in case .

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June 10, 2016, 09:40:48 AM
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Wow there is a sucker born every minute...good luck with your money problems tho

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Wow there is a sucker born every minute...good luck with your money problems tho

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June 10, 2016, 09:57:08 AM
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I would buy your waves for 0.2 BTC if you interested instead of loaning you that amount.
Escrow is a must in case .

PM'ed you, I need a money now Sad


In your PM you still ask for a loan but  I would like to buy those waves paying 0.2BTC.
Not giving them back to you then.

And with the help of an escrow who can verify that ICO account holds that amount of waves and that you give full access to it and to email associated to it.

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June 10, 2016, 12:04:57 PM
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I would buy your waves for 0.2 BTC if you interested instead of loaning you that amount.
Escrow is a must in case .

PM'ed you, I need a money now Sad


In your PM you still ask for a loan but  I would like to buy those waves paying 0.2BTC.
Not giving them back to you then.

And with the help of an escrow who can verify that ICO account holds that amount of waves and that you give full access to it and to email associated to it.

Be careful in this, there is a feature to recover the ICO Waves account using the email, and even holding the email is not 100% guarantee as he can get it back too using social engineering and claiming it was hacked to the service he uses.

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June 10, 2016, 01:18:42 PM
Last edit: June 10, 2016, 02:21:41 PM by hopenotlate
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I would buy your waves for 0.2 BTC if you interested instead of loaning you that amount.
Escrow is a must in case .

PM'ed you, I need a money now Sad


In your PM you still ask for a loan but  I would like to buy those waves paying 0.2BTC.
Not giving them back to you then.

And with the help of an escrow who can verify that ICO account holds that amount of waves and that you give full access to it and to email associated to it.

Be careful in this, there is a feature to recover the ICO Waves account using the email, and even holding the email is not 100% guarantee as he can get it back too using social engineering and claiming it was hacked to the service he uses.

Thanks for this wasn't aware that there is a recovery feature through social media accounts or recovering email access through  social media accounts (not sure I understood properly what you wrote).

It's better for me to fold this one, also due to last PM I received I didn't like at all (claiming he need money soon to buy grandma medicines  Roll Eyes ).

Sorry OP but consider me out of this deal for now: waiting for an answer from waves support and will evaluate again depending on it.

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