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I guess you don't own a bank account anymore and you pay all your expenses via BTC. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) To all hypocrites, stop lying. All of you have at least one bank account, most of you use Paypal and other payment processors as well and BTC is just a way to make some pocket money . Yes, it's a real business for others but this is minority. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In short, there is a lot of lie on this forum. Yes, maybe there are few BTC fanatics but those who are saying that the banks are "bad", I challenge you to tell me how you live a decent life, how you can pay your food with BTC only. Remember that all the "seeds/round 1, round two", "VC funds/investors" and so on are real money/capital injections made via banks. Without these and the black market, BTC shit won't exist. There's a lot of people who will actively use cryptocurrency wherever possible. I only pay for things with my bank or PayPal when I don't get a choice, or if I severely don't trust the seller (what's that? there's a risk this company has beyond shit customer service and RMA? PayPal can force their hand and get me my money back). I currently pay for my domains, hosting, my phone bill, games (via steam and humble bundle), and computer parts (quite a few big retailers accept bitcoin now, inc. Scan UK for computer components and AdaFruit for various electronic kits) all with Bitcoin. Key reason being that I don't have to worry about the company leaking my credit card details, or sneaking recurring payments for no good reason, and it also means that I don't have my bank, or PayPal recording all of my purchases and sales, thus giving me privacy similar to actual cash. The key reason to use Bitcoin, is that it's the closest thing to physical cash (unless you live in NYC...) for the digital world. I can pay for most things usually without the seller requiring any personal details whatsoever. (for example, if you pay for Steam or Humble Bundle with Bitcoin, you don't have to give any address, where-as PayPal and Credit Card both give the seller your full name and address, and sometimes your phone number). This is great because it offers much more privacy, and of course helps to protect you against identity theft. You can't force them to change their mind, but you can quite happily say "I told you so" when their bank, or something like PayPal freezes their account for some stupid reason, or they become victim to credit card fraud, which is all too common because every time you make a purchase you're practically giving the key to your bank to that website. you are living in a country like USA or UK(maybe) but many, many other people are living in other countries where BTC is not accepted anywhere ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Yes, your credit card may be stolen or you can be scammed by someone who does not ship the item but you can make chargeback. It works, believe me. Also, what do you do when your BTC is stolen? Nothing. You just sit and "cry" and then "you" come on forums whining that a hacker took your hard/easy work ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) BTC is for a niche and nothing more. it will never become more than that.
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Made a thread and a poll on this. Feel free to post your results/efforts and how that all went over. Anyway in the thread below you can see how I approach this now. (Cheerleader that I was for BTC in 2013 at over 1100 usd) Now that the price is surging. Folk are coming out of the woodwork again to try to knock it down ..alas.. anyway the thread is below (feel free to take the poll also) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1507085.msg15163386#msg15163386Anyway will be interesting to see the poll results and how many folk have matched my experiences on this ride for how to respond ..in my case since 2013
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June 11, 2016, 01:04:59 PM |
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i think you should just say them that the fiat is actually worthless and they will be broke soon
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June 11, 2016, 04:51:34 PM |
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i think you should just say them that the fiat is actually worthless and they will be broke soon
That is false and would probably make you lose the argument. It is no different from blanket statements like "Bitcoin is only used by drug dealers"
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June 11, 2016, 05:06:44 PM |
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The best way to 'defend' bitcoin in times when you have to talk to people about it is to be quite knowledgeable about BTC yourself. If people will throw at you some stupid arguments like, for example: bitcoin is a Ponzi - you have to know how Ponzi scheme works, explain difference, between Ponzi and Bitcoin's network etc.
Usually people who are anti bitcoin, have no idea what they are talking about. They repeat headlines of stupid media coverage heard somewhere. Any logical arguments presented with confidence and logic is usually end of discussion.
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June 11, 2016, 06:10:41 PM |
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No need to response, people have their own choices. It is perfectly normal different people have different view of Bitcoin, including hater and skepticals. Let is be, you know.
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June 11, 2016, 06:13:37 PM |
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I choose not to argue with people who are arrogant and not willing to listen or debate on a topic. If they are just being negative about bitcoins, there could be ways to deal with them and unless bitcoins aren't banned in your country, you can still tell the ones who are anti-bitcoins that the currency is yet not ILLEGAL. It may be misused just like other currencies and people exist who exploit everything that has no trace eg: bitcoins and because of them, the currency is blamed.
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June 11, 2016, 06:15:45 PM |
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I choose not to argue with people who are arrogant and not willing to listen or debate on a topic. If they are just being negative about bitcoins, there could be ways to deal with them and unless bitcoins aren't banned in your country, you can still tell the ones who are anti-bitcoins that the currency is yet not ILLEGAL. It may be misused just like other currencies and people exist who exploit everything that has no trace eg: bitcoins and because of them, the currency is blamed.
True, there are some folks the argue for the sake of argument, they will never change their view of the topic even they lose the debate.
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June 11, 2016, 06:34:38 PM |
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i think you should just say them that the fiat is actually worthless and they will be broke soon
Worthless, huh? Well goodluck with that buddy. I don't see that you're going to win an argument with that statement because that's just very, very foolish. The proper way to respond to someone who is anti-bitcoin is to leave them alone. Don't fall prey to their provocations and let them be jelous of you earning profits from bitcoins.
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June 11, 2016, 07:06:30 PM |
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Who cares about them, they are probably just trendy mindless people who cant have a rational conversation about bitcoin with them.
They dont understand economics, finance, the monetary system? Why bother to convert them when they are that stupid?
They just go with the herd and have no sense of individuality.
Wow, couldn't have thought to put it any better way, but so True. Just don't bother with them if they just don't understand money at all.
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June 11, 2016, 07:43:00 PM |
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we should not have to harsh to them, as it is not good manner, but we should have to show them that how much we are benefiting with bitcoin, and have to show them that how easy is it to earn and to use, and I think with that they will start to use bitcoin.
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June 11, 2016, 08:03:42 PM |
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just ignore them,people with such thinking has been brainwashed by themselves cause they're such a denial person,explain bitcoin to them is such a waste time cause they just consider its as a bullshit even you're honest,bitcoin still alive without them tho
It's not true as bitcoins are used for criminal activities and time and again, it has been proved. There are so many users on this forum who are scammers and frauds and it's mainly the people who deal with bitcoins who turn out to be criminals. It's not the currencies fault but it's the truth because bitcoins can be owned by just anyone. These people don't even have a bank account or any payment processor that requires an ID proof and hence people who are anti-bitcoin have their own valid reasons.
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June 11, 2016, 08:12:09 PM |
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You do not have to respond. leave him saying whatever he wants. all what he says can be applied on fiat nowadays. ie you can say it is also not a real money and it is used by terrorists and criminals as well. so there is no point from these accusations
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June 11, 2016, 08:13:47 PM |
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we should not have to harsh to them, as it is not good manner, but we should have to show them that how much we are benefiting with bitcoin, and have to show them that how easy is it to earn and to use, and I think with that they will start to use bitcoin.
well not all the people are benefiting out of bitcoins as there are some traders who lose money because of trading bitcoins at incorrect time so that would be kinda lie i think i wouldnt tell them anything in my opinion, they would see what they missed when bitcoin became a world known currency that people will use all over the world daily
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June 11, 2016, 08:42:33 PM |
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someone is against bitcoin as they do not know about bitcoin or they have their own cryptocurrency to promote, so those people who have their own crypto currency it is impossible to redirect them to there or they will have their coins for the profit in future but hidden from public, and those who do not know about it, we should have to work hard to teach them about it.
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June 12, 2016, 02:45:08 AM |
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We cannot please everyone to like bitcoin as they have their own belief. i will just ignore them, its useless to spoke with someone if they only contradicts what i want to explain.
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June 12, 2016, 03:39:55 AM |
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We cannot please everyone to like bitcoin as they have their own belief. i will just ignore them, its useless to spoke with someone if they only contradicts what i want to explain.
I will not entertain them, like you that you have to ignore them. Its a waste of time and effort explaining to them but they didn't want to listen or not even an open minded person where he is open to your or my ideas.
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June 12, 2016, 03:45:18 AM |
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What is the best way to respond to someone who is anti bitcoin?
Never met anyone that was anti bitcoin, but probably best to avoid this person. It's okay to introduce people to bitcoin, but haters gonna hate.
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June 12, 2016, 10:36:11 AM |
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just ignore them,people with such thinking has been brainwashed by themselves cause they're such a denial person,explain bitcoin to them is such a waste time cause they just consider its as a bullshit even you're honest,bitcoin still alive without them tho
Yeah, I doubt you'll change their minds however you try to explain bitcoin to them. Some people just want to watch the world burn. They can't be bullied, bought or reasoned with. Bitcoin will still be functional with these haters, and without these haters. They don't matter to us.
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June 12, 2016, 11:17:19 AM |
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Best thing to respond for me is explaining them how and what bitcoin helps us gaving them a best idea to earn money on bitcoins will get them interested to it.
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