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June 11, 2016, 07:33:41 AM
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OK, so the difficulty has been pumping off in Ethereum mining, just like it happened in Bitcoin when people used to mine it with GPU (I don't think so that people still mine Bitcoin much with GPU).

https://etherscan.io/charts/difficulty

So my question is, within the current conditions, what cryptocurrency do you guys think the GPU miners will move to after Ethereum becomes a loss to mine? Vertcoin? Is someone already mining it with GPU? If so, any profit being generated?
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June 11, 2016, 09:33:34 AM
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There's a difficulty bomb in place for Ethereum which means the difficulty keep increasing regardless of miners:

Difficulty adjustment scheme

A lot of you have been wondering how we would implement a switch from PoW to PoS in time for Serenity. This will be handled by the newly introduced difficulty adjustment scheme, which elegantly guarantees a hard-fork point in the next 16 months.

It works as follow: starting from block 200,000 the difficulty will undergo an exponential increase which will only become noticeable in about a year. At that point (just around the release of the Serenity milestone), we’ll see a significant increase in difficulty which will start pushing the block resolution time upwards.

So, a year on, the network will continue to be useful for roughly 3-4 months, but eventually will reach an ‘Ice Age’ of sorts: the difficulty will simply be too high for anyone to find a block. This will allow us to introduce PoS, perhaps via Casper, if it proves itself.

Nobody GPU mines Litecoin anymore. It's ASIC territory, just like Bitcoin.

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June 11, 2016, 09:49:38 AM
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are other ethereum clone affected by this shitty diff  scheme? i hope not
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There's a difficulty bomb in place for Ethereum which means the difficulty keep increasing regardless of miners:

Difficulty adjustment scheme

A lot of you have been wondering how we would implement a switch from PoW to PoS in time for Serenity. This will be handled by the newly introduced difficulty adjustment scheme, which elegantly guarantees a hard-fork point in the next 16 months.

It works as follow: starting from block 200,000 the difficulty will undergo an exponential increase which will only become noticeable in about a year. At that point (just around the release of the Serenity milestone), we’ll see a significant increase in difficulty which will start pushing the block resolution time upwards.

So, a year on, the network will continue to be useful for roughly 3-4 months, but eventually will reach an ‘Ice Age’ of sorts: the difficulty will simply be too high for anyone to find a block. This will allow us to introduce PoS, perhaps via Casper, if it proves itself.

Nobody GPU mines Litecoin anymore. It's ASIC territory, just like Bitcoin.

So no replacement of Ethereum once it becomes extremely hard on GPU mining? What about Dash?

I'm planning to purchase GPU of $200-$300 and then buy more time-to-time. But it'd be pretty bad to see once ether mining becomes useless. GPU miners will have to explore some sort of replacement.
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June 11, 2016, 01:21:14 PM
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are other ethereum clone affected by this shitty diff  scheme? i hope not

I don't think so. Its sole purpose as far as I understand is to act as a transition from PoW to PoS. I'm not sure why they didn't decrese the blockreward instead.

So no replacement of Ethereum once it becomes extremely hard on GPU mining? What about Dash?

I'm planning to purchase GPU of $200-$300 and then buy more time-to-time. But it'd be pretty bad to see once ether mining becomes useless. GPU miners will have to explore some sort of replacement.

Dash is x11 and there are x11 ASICs which means it's a bad choice for GPU mining.

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June 11, 2016, 01:56:04 PM
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dude everybody got you backward dash and ltc ? come on their gpu days are all over  Roll Eyes... there's simply no way to tell but the next gpu coin will always come around.

btc..ltc..vtc..drk/dash..and eth now..

vtc is always a gpu coin as the coin devs determined to keep it that way.

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June 11, 2016, 06:52:33 PM
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OK, so the difficulty has been pumping off in Ethereum mining, just like it happened in Bitcoin when people used to mine it with GPU (I don't think so that people still mine Bitcoin much with GPU).

https://etherscan.io/charts/difficulty

So my question is, within the current conditions, what cryptocurrency do you guys think the GPU miners will move to after Ethereum becomes a loss to mine? Vertcoin? Is someone already mining it with GPU? If so, any profit being generated?

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June 12, 2016, 02:52:11 AM
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Ether is holding the entire gpu mining scene up.

Once it gets too hard we can hope that another coin will become very wealthy but so far nothing can match the profit of ether.  There is no clear option at this point though so just enjoy it while it lasts
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June 12, 2016, 10:25:50 AM
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dude everybody got you backward dash and ltc ? come on their gpu days are all over  Roll Eyes... there's simply no way to tell but the next gpu coin will always come around.

btc..ltc..vtc..drk/dash..and eth now..

vtc is always a gpu coin as the coin devs determined to keep it that way.



From the middle of 2014 to middle of 2013, there was not many profitable coins to mine. That is a whole year.

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June 12, 2016, 02:23:12 PM
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The next big thing to mine is Shitcoin




After Ether everything will be unprofitable and GPU's will be selling dirt cheap. Until enough rigs are sold and turned off GPU mining will be much like after litecoins bust, pointless.

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June 12, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
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Its never pointless to lucky ones with free electricity.
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June 12, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
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The next big thing to mine is Shitcoin




After Ether everything will be unprofitable and GPU's will be selling dirt cheap. Until enough rigs are sold and turned off GPU mining will be much like after litecoins bust, pointless.


I was thinking THAT EXACT thing in summer 2014, GPU mining is now dead. 2 years later I have 18 GPU mining  Roll Eyes

And this time, BTC is rising.... that change a lot of things....
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June 13, 2016, 12:18:51 AM
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This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.
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June 13, 2016, 12:37:15 AM
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This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.

the right GPUs or the right combos of parts can be resold to many other markets then miners. So it sounds like ETH mining for you , see how 2016 shakes out , maybe mine an alt , or hold some for a paid off gaming computer. If / when another GPU coin comes around, you might also be ready in waiting.

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June 13, 2016, 05:55:46 AM
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This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.

it's still very profitable, so yes go ahead and buy a gpu to mine if you can, also bitcoin skyrocketing make this even more profitable despite the little crash in ethereum price
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June 14, 2016, 01:15:03 PM
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This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.

In 2014, there were not many profitable coin to mine. The 2010 GPU is useless in 2014 mining any way. That is earlier than the 5870.

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June 15, 2016, 02:37:50 PM
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I started mining BikerCoin (BIC) yesterday using my cpu (GPU also can be used) They are new and are easy to mine. I am using a low grade Intel Quad Core 2.4GHZ with a low 1GB video card.

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June 15, 2016, 03:49:24 PM
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This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.

it's still very profitable, so yes go ahead and buy a gpu to mine if you can, also bitcoin skyrocketing make this even more profitable despite the little crash in ethereum price

It's almost always a bad investment. Mining may never be profitable again.
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This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.

it's still very profitable, so yes go ahead and buy a gpu to mine if you can, also bitcoin skyrocketing make this even more profitable despite the little crash in ethereum price

It's almost always a bad investment. Mining may never be profitable again.

i don't agree, i already roied on my gpu if i would sell them now, and this counting my high electricity

there profit to be made but you need to mine the most profitable each time, it's not always ethereum...
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June 16, 2016, 01:21:28 PM
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This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.

it's still very profitable, so yes go ahead and buy a gpu to mine if you can, also bitcoin skyrocketing make this even more profitable despite the little crash in ethereum price

It's almost always a bad investment. Mining may never be profitable again.

i don't agree, i already roied on my gpu if i would sell them now, and this counting my high electricity

there profit to be made but you need to mine the most profitable each time, it's not always ethereum...

ROI of GPU is different from ROI bitcoin ASIC miners. the only problem is that when we all sell the GPU at the same time, the price will crash.

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This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.

it's still very profitable, so yes go ahead and buy a gpu to mine if you can, also bitcoin skyrocketing make this even more profitable despite the little crash in ethereum price

It's almost always a bad investment. Mining may never be profitable again.

i don't agree, i already roied on my gpu if i would sell them now, and this counting my high electricity

there profit to be made but you need to mine the most profitable each time, it's not always ethereum...

ROI of GPU is different from ROI bitcoin ASIC miners. the only problem is that when we all sell the GPU at the same time, the price will crash.

But the difficulty goes down again, and it's easier to mine again...
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Since LISK is very close looking to Ethereum I was wondering if it will be possible to mine it. Does anyone know if I can mine Lisk?
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You cant mine LISK, it's dpos.

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Theres always another coin seen it all before Wink
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u earn more by trading than by mining but mining is a hobby and is fun.  Grin
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GPU mining will never be dead. It might take a while for a new good coin to come along but when its here let it rain GPUS and mine once again. Turn off when not profitable and turn on when a worth while coin comes along the markets.

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dude everybody got you backward dash and ltc ? come on their gpu days are all over  Roll Eyes... there's simply no way to tell but the next gpu coin will always come around.

btc..ltc..vtc..drk/dash..and eth now..

vtc is always a gpu coin as the coin devs determined to keep it that way.




So no replacement of Ethereum once it becomes extremely hard on GPU mining? What about Dash?

I'm planning to purchase GPU of $200-$300 and then buy more time-to-time. But it'd be pretty bad to see once ether mining becomes useless. GPU miners will have to explore some sort of replacement.

Dash is x11 and there are x11 ASICs which means it's a bad choice for GPU mining.

I used Minergate (does not pay out) and according to how fast I can make dash by the hour and what the electricity would cost, it is actually profitable for me to mine with a GTX 460

Is minergate completely making up fake numbers on how much Dash I am making?

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I am waiting for Zcash to come out, maybe that will be worth mining..

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June 21, 2016, 04:28:42 AM
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I am not too sure what is going to come next but I am very confident there will be a big new hype about something. With all the many people have put into mining rigs, and all the money people have profited, there would definitely be groups of people that would devise a way to get a community to back a new mine- able coin to make mining profitable yet again.

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June 21, 2016, 09:04:10 AM
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dude everybody got you backward dash and ltc ? come on their gpu days are all over  Roll Eyes... there's simply no way to tell but the next gpu coin will always come around.

btc..ltc..vtc..drk/dash..and eth now..

vtc is always a gpu coin as the coin devs determined to keep it that way.




So no replacement of Ethereum once it becomes extremely hard on GPU mining? What about Dash?

I'm planning to purchase GPU of $200-$300 and then buy more time-to-time. But it'd be pretty bad to see once ether mining becomes useless. GPU miners will have to explore some sort of replacement.

Dash is x11 and there are x11 ASICs which means it's a bad choice for GPU mining.

I used Minergate (does not pay out) and according to how fast I can make dash by the hour and what the electricity would cost, it is actually profitable for me to mine with a GTX 460

Is minergate completely making up fake numbers on how much Dash I am making?



For the X11, it has ASIC. It will not be profitable to mine with the latest GPU, let alone a three generation old card.

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