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June 14, 2016, 06:55:28 PM
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Hi
I sent .87 btc on 6/6 for hosting to the same address as always and it shows in transactions "?" sent 0 confirms
I sent 10.5 last night and have same message i'll post the tx id shortly
Is there a way to recover this coin because it has been removed from wallet but seems to lost in the chain. Huh

Thanks in advance

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June 14, 2016, 06:57:44 PM
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If you sent them then they should be in the blockchain,they can't simply "get lost". That's the point from having the blockchain in the first place , everyone is able to see everyone else transactions .
So please post the TXID so we see what is happening , I also didn't understand what you mean by "6/6" ? do you mean number of confirmations? and what is the hosting provider you sent coins to

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June 14, 2016, 07:05:34 PM
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Hi
I sent .87 btc on 6/6 for hosting to the same address as always and it shows in transactions "?" sent 0 confirms
I sent 10.5 last night and have same message i'll post the tx id shortly
Is there a way to recover this coin because it has been removed from wallet but seems to lost in the chain. Huh

Thanks in advance


If there are 0 confirms and you sent on 6/6/16, then you likely did not pay a fee or too little of a fee.
If you sent another tx last night, and have the same problem again, you likely made the same mistake.
If you provide the Txid, we can see what your issue may be.

Your BTC is never lost, in this situation.
It is either recorded in the blockchain, pending in the mempool, or in your wallet.

You may need to rescan your wallet to make the returned BTC appear.

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June 14, 2016, 07:07:57 PM
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More people experience some delay in transaction processing today. The speed also depend on the amount of fees you paid for your transaction. Post your tx and people can take a look into it and possible help you out.

In another treat there was also an discussion about it:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1511984.0
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June 14, 2016, 07:18:10 PM
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The coins can't simply be lost. Either you got hacked and someone got to your coins or probably you have made some kinf of mistake when sending the coins...

Please post the TXid so that we can analize it
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June 14, 2016, 07:24:27 PM
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More people experience some delay in transaction processing today. The speed also depend on the amount of fees you paid for your transaction. Post your tx and people can take a look into it and possible help you out.

In another treat there was also an discussion about it:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1511984.0

See this thread for an explanation about the block chain jams...

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June 14, 2016, 07:32:24 PM
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Is there a way to recover this coin because it has been removed from wallet but seems to lost in the chain. Huh
-What wallet do you use ?
-Transaction ID is one of the things you should be posting first.
-Assuming the transactions are not confirmed yet you can try double spending it.Explained well here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231309.0
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June 14, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
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If you sent them then they should be in the blockchain,they can't simply "get lost". That's the point from having the blockchain in the first place , everyone is able to see everyone else transactions .
So please post the TXID so we see what is happening , I also didn't understand what you mean by "6/6" ? do you mean number of confirmations? and what is the hosting provider you sent coins to

Sent the coin on 6/6 and paid no tx fees used to automatically add in and always paid
Second it automatically added a super small fee will post tx in minute
The coin shows being spent

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June 14, 2016, 08:21:51 PM
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Here are the Tx id's
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 6/13/2016 10:48
To: BTCe 18nLc6RUmohyQU6sm2hAAPMkF7pNvzcXeM
Debit: -10.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -10.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291-000

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 6/6/2016 21:31
To: Gekko 1F19kv64AvWYSsAr79GxCs8Df1WSpj4QK4
Debit: -0.87 BTC
Net amount: -0.87 BTC
Transaction ID: 2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8-000

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June 14, 2016, 08:29:35 PM
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Transaction ID: 57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291-000
https://blockchain.info/tx/57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291
This one has very less fees indeed.0.0001 that is sort of less for a 11BTC transaction.You could have at least added the fees as big as 0.02-0.10.Though there is not a certain reason as theoretically explained but paying underflow amounts would result in delayed confirmations.Though the transaction will get confirmed I can't assure how much time it would take,maybe 5 hours ,maybe 2 days.All you can do is wait.

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 6/6/2016 21:31
To: Gekko 1F19kv64AvWYSsAr79GxCs8Df1WSpj4QK4
Debit: -0.87 BTC
Net amount: -0.87 BTC
Transaction ID: 2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8-000
https://blockchain.info/tx/2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8
Transaction has 0 fees.Doubt it's getting confirmed anytime soon.If you can,try and rebroadcast the transaction with good amount of fees.
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June 14, 2016, 08:32:20 PM
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Here are the Tx id's
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 6/13/2016 10:48
To: BTCe 18nLc6RUmohyQU6sm2hAAPMkF7pNvzcXeM
Debit: -10.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -10.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291-000

This one has a fee of 44 satoshi/byte, which is low but ok. Currently your fee should be more like 80 satoshi/byte for speedy confirmation. However, this one is dependent on the one below confirming... which might not happen.

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 6/6/2016 21:31
To: Gekko 1F19kv64AvWYSsAr79GxCs8Df1WSpj4QK4
Debit: -0.87 BTC
Net amount: -0.87 BTC
Transaction ID: 2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8-000

This one has no fee and may not get confirmed. After 3 days it should drop from mempools and you can try to send it again, with a fee.

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8
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June 14, 2016, 08:36:25 PM
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Thanks

The QT client always used to add the fees but for some reason stopped. I've always paid them is there a way to manually add when sending?
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June 14, 2016, 08:38:36 PM
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Transaction ID: 57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291-000
https://blockchain.info/tx/57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291
This one has very less fees indeed.0.0001 that is sort of less for a 11BTC transaction.You could have at least added the fees as big as 0.02-0.10.Though there is not a certain reason as theoretically explained but paying underflow amounts would result in delayed confirmations.Though the transaction will get confirmed I can't assure how much time it would take,maybe 5 hours ,maybe 2 days.All you can do is wait.

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 6/6/2016 21:31
To: Gekko 1F19kv64AvWYSsAr79GxCs8Df1WSpj4QK4
Debit: -0.87 BTC
Net amount: -0.87 BTC
Transaction ID: 2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8-000
https://blockchain.info/tx/2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8
Transaction has 0 fees.Doubt it's getting confirmed anytime soon.If you can,try and rebroadcast the transaction with good amount of fees.

How would i rebroadcast if its already in the waiting to be sent?
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June 14, 2016, 08:42:22 PM
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Transaction ID: 57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291-000
https://blockchain.info/tx/57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291
This one has very less fees indeed.0.0001 that is sort of less for a 11BTC transaction.You could have at least added the fees as big as 0.02-0.10.Though there is not a certain reason as theoretically explained but paying underflow amounts would result in delayed confirmations.Though the transaction will get confirmed I can't assure how much time it would take,maybe 5 hours ,maybe 2 days.All you can do is wait.

firstly, that transaction is not getting confirmed because it is spending an input from the other no-fee tx which is still unconfirmed. not because of the fee (which is actually high enough.).
secondly, the amount of bitcoins being sent have nothing to do with the fee.
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June 14, 2016, 08:42:59 PM
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at the moment a safe fee is 70sat per byte which equates to 0.00015 fee based on the data used on your txs

you first transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8
had no fee at all and is not confirmed
it will probably not confirm and just get dropped.

it seems the 1GXN is your "change address". so not only is label gekko(1F9k) waiting to get paid. from previous tx, but you also cannot really use the change to then deposit into btc-e(18nLc) using the second tx either. .. not until the first one is confirmed where gekko gets paid and you can play with the change

in short
your situation is cause because the funds going from 1Lq5 -> 1F9k and 1GXN are being held up in limbo due to no fee at all

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June 14, 2016, 08:44:03 PM
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Transaction ID: 57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291-000
https://blockchain.info/tx/57217b06cf2fd65bcd35cbf4dcfc2699095a19a97800ecb4e572726b5435a291
This one has very less fees indeed.0.0001 that is sort of less for a 11BTC transaction.You could have at least added the fees as big as 0.02-0.10.Though there is not a certain reason as theoretically explained but paying underflow amounts would result in delayed confirmations.Though the transaction will get confirmed I can't assure how much time it would take,maybe 5 hours ,maybe 2 days.All you can do is wait.

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 6/6/2016 21:31
To: Gekko 1F19kv64AvWYSsAr79GxCs8Df1WSpj4QK4
Debit: -0.87 BTC
Net amount: -0.87 BTC
Transaction ID: 2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8-000
https://blockchain.info/tx/2cc935ca535afdbf2498b5a08a901049b6c5a73985c69d3e845671e7537c9bb8
Transaction has 0 fees.Doubt it's getting confirmed anytime soon.If you can,try and rebroadcast the transaction with good amount of fees.

How would i rebroadcast if its already in the waiting to be sent?

Assuming you are using Core. Try this method to stop your client from rebroadcasting these transactions:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1289559.20
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