We Could Be Living In Simulation Says Elon Musk

[tokeweed]

According to Elon Musk, there's one in a billion chance that we're living in base reality.  It seems that he's persuaded by the 'simulation argument'.  It's an idea by philosopher and futurologist Nick Bostrom which states that our future descendants have created simulations by the millions, so that makes it possible that we are living in one now.

More about the simulation argument:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis

Watch Elon Musk talk about what he thinks about the huge possibility that we're all in a simulation:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=bUc9LYe55wI

Watch Nick Bostrom talk about the simulation argument here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnl6nY8YKHs

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[yesiam6]

It could be possible i guess, would this mean that
if a simulation reaches high enough technology know how
to create their own simulation that there could endless
simulations inside of simulations?

[criptix]

It could be possible i guess, would this mean that
if a simulation reaches high enough technology know how
to create their own simulation that there could endless
simulations inside of simulations?

No the Simulation would probaly end at that point.

Btw. If we are a simulation it is pretty useless to talk about it because we as the inhabitants cant differ simulation from reality because it is the same for us.

[helloeverybody]

In my Opinion a simulation is one of the more logical ideas of how life exists, I find it easier to believe this than to believe half the shit that Christians and Muslims come out with. It does make you wonder though, who is running the simulation and are they even human? are you in a multiplayer simulation? is it single player or are you just an npc?

[Slow death]

I do not understand anything that simulation idea!

[BADecker]

What?! Is he too chicken to come right out and say he is a flat-earther?

 

[countryfree]

Cool! So anyone can get a machine gun, go out in a night club and kill dozens of people. Hey, if everything's simulated, who cares?
Could someone hack the software to replace my car with a Ferrari?
Wonder if I will rape a blonde or a brunette tomorrow...
No, wait, is the police part of the simulation?

[BADecker]

Cool! So anyone can get a machine gun, go out in a night club and kill dozens of people. Hey, if everything's simulated, who cares?
Could someone hack the software to replace my car with a Ferrari?
Wonder if I will rape a blonde or a brunette tomorrow...
No, wait, is the police part of the simulation?

Not everybody dies. Many are in great pain for life from your machine gun thing.

The simulation is far more complex than most people understand. It isn't as easy as Neo made it look.

[Semidetached]

Guys he said there's a billionth of a chance we aren't in a simulation and then we would get to high technology to create a simulation. So either we create the simulation or we're in it

[tokeweed]

Guys he said there's a billionth of a chance we aren't in a simulation and then we would get to high technology to create a simulation. So either we create the simulation or we're in it

Exactly.  The thing is at the pace technology's development is going, we could create a real world simulation sooner or later.  Once it's there, you cannot help but wonder what if we're actually in one.  And if we do accept it, how do we prove or disprove it?

[BADecker]

Guys he said there's a billionth of a chance we aren't in a simulation and then we would get to high technology to create a simulation. So either we create the simulation or we're in it

Exactly.  The thing is at the pace technology's development is going, we could create a real world simulation sooner or later.  Once it's there, you cannot help but wonder what if we're actually in one.  And if we do accept it, how do we prove or disprove it?

A thought about where to start proving it.

Already a long time ago high school science classes were teaching that hydrogen atoms are made out of one proton and one electron. The electron revolves around the proton, something like the earth revolves around the sun. (Flat earth people, this is not for you. Browse elsewhere.)

A hydrogen atom is extremely tiny. But if you enlarged one so that the proton in the center was the size of a pinpoint - barely visible in the palm of your hand - the electron would be flashing around it as much as 100 feet away.

What would there be in between the electron and the proton? Nothing... just empty space, just like there is in reality. And while the other atoms are a bit more complex than the hydrogen atom, they are essentially made up of a few little protons, neutrons and electrons... all bouncing around in a gigantic amount of empty space that makes up the vast majority of the volume of any atom.

When you realize that all this stuff that seems so solid in life, is really just a bunch of empty space, you can start to see that this whole thing really is a simulation.

[zojav]

One of the clues that point to simulation: Repeatable test show an active and adaptive force is blocking certain particle mapping works. We are not going to be able to create simulations of this quality, whatever created our sim, withheld the tools needed. No replicators, no transporters.
 I think a good question now is, what will this program do now that the sims know their sims?

[helloeverybody]

One of the clues that point to simulation: Repeatable test show an active and adaptive force is blocking certain particle mapping works. We are not going to be able to create simulations of this quality, whatever created our sim, withheld the tools needed. No replicators, no transporters.
 I think a good question now is, what will this program do now that the sims know their sims?

It probably wouldnt even really matter, its not like the sims can get out of the simulation or anything. And the sims learning that they are in a sim is all part of the sim. It might be different if ooe of the sims managed to activate some Leet hax though =p .

[zojav]

We are more than the sum of our parts. We invent ideas witch are not part of our original programing. This gives me hope that anything is possible.
 Why would they run this simulation, if they already knew what would evolve from it? They would not.

[helloeverybody]

We are more than the sum of our parts. We invent ideas witch are not part of our original programing. This gives me hope that anything is possible.
 Why would they run this simulation, if they already knew what would evolve from it? They would not.

That makes us sound special though,  maybe there are millions of simulations running each with varying slight differences ( parallel world's if you like) .  In an attempt to see which simulation has whatever it is they are looking for.

[xht]

he might be smoking too much grass, and shouldn't have watched the matrix while high. Guess as long as he keeps inviting his imagination.

[tokeweed]

We are more than the sum of our parts. We invent ideas witch are not part of our original programing. This gives me hope that anything is possible.
 Why would they run this simulation, if they already knew what would evolve from it? They would not.

Maybe for entertainment purposes...?  What if people from the real world enter the sim to be entertained and basically to play this game called life.  Imagine playing Grand Theft Auto but in a more realistic setting.  I know I'd pay to play that game to be quite honest.

Or maybe for experimentation purposes.  Maybe they wanna see how humans lived in different historical times.  We could be a sim right inside a museum, or in a lab somewhere like an ant farm where everyone can be observed by the people up there in the real world.

The reality is, who knows why...  Then again, if this is really the real world, what is the purpose of all this?

[Betwrong]

I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

[tokeweed]

I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  

[BADecker]

I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  

Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.