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June 16, 2016, 01:55:36 PM
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I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  



Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.

Cool

So meaning it's possible after a million years.  But how do we know that million years has not been passed if we're actually inside a simulation? 

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June 16, 2016, 02:09:13 PM
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I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  



Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.

Cool

So meaning it's possible after a million years.  But how do we know that million years has not been passed if we're actually inside a simulation? 

It doesn't make any difference, does it? The complexity of the real-life simulation is something that will have to be dealt with, at least partially, through the subconscious. And there really isn't anybody who knows what goes on even in their own subconscious mind. Matrix-like simulation was there to give us ideas, not to show us the way things exist.

Cool

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June 16, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
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Lol Elon Musk has always been a little out there hasn't he  Cheesy Some of the things he says are tinfoil hat level ramblings and yet he seems to get away with it and even manages to get the audience hooked. But it's cool, there is definitely need for some wackiness in tech, it helps expand our horizons  Smiley
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June 16, 2016, 10:39:38 PM
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Lol Elon Musk has always been a little out there hasn't he  Cheesy Some of the things he says are tinfoil hat level ramblings and yet he seems to get away with it and even manages to get the audience hooked. But it's cool, there is definitely need for some wackiness in tech, it helps expand our horizons  Smiley

He gets away with it because he has already achieved so much that it's hard not to take him seriously.  Did you hear about his detailed presentation coming out on September about how he'll send the first manned mission to Mars?  20 years ago we would laugh at him.  People don't laugh at his face now because we know he can make it happen.


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June 16, 2016, 10:41:24 PM
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I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  



Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.

Cool

So meaning it's possible after a million years.  But how do we know that million years has not been passed if we're actually inside a simulation? 

It doesn't make any difference, does it? The complexity of the real-life simulation is something that will have to be dealt with, at least partially, through the subconscious. And there really isn't anybody who knows what goes on even in their own subconscious mind. Matrix-like simulation was there to give us ideas, not to show us the way things exist.

Cool

What do you mean by that?  That sims are more of an experiment rather than for entertainment and historical value?

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June 16, 2016, 10:51:34 PM
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I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  



Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.

Cool

So meaning it's possible after a million years.  But how do we know that million years has not been passed if we're actually inside a simulation? 

It doesn't make any difference, does it? The complexity of the real-life simulation is something that will have to be dealt with, at least partially, through the subconscious. And there really isn't anybody who knows what goes on even in their own subconscious mind. Matrix-like simulation was there to give us ideas, not to show us the way things exist.

Cool

What do you mean by that?  That sims are more of an experiment rather than for entertainment and historical value?

I mean that the idea of Neo in the Matrix has nothing to do with reality. The complexity of reality makes the Matrix idea something we could not fathom if we devoted a thousand years to full study of it. The best idea is to use our sim, and live life.

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June 16, 2016, 10:58:41 PM
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I'll believe we live in a simulation if someone can proves me it was invented by alien lizards. Humans aren't smart enough to create something so complex as today's world.

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I'll believe we live in a simulation if someone can proves me it was invented by alien lizards. Humans aren't smart enough to create something so complex as today's world.

Actually, it's way worse than that.

Computer science engineers are trying to build AI. Regarding the reality simulation we are living in, we are the AI.

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June 17, 2016, 12:09:19 AM
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I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  



Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.

Cool

So meaning it's possible after a million years.  But how do we know that million years has not been passed if we're actually inside a simulation?  

It doesn't make any difference, does it? The complexity of the real-life simulation is something that will have to be dealt with, at least partially, through the subconscious. And there really isn't anybody who knows what goes on even in their own subconscious mind. Matrix-like simulation was there to give us ideas, not to show us the way things exist.

Cool

What do you mean by that?  That sims are more of an experiment rather than for entertainment and historical value?

I mean that the idea of Neo in the Matrix has nothing to do with reality. The complexity of reality makes the Matrix idea something we could not fathom if we devoted a thousand years to full study of it. The best idea is to use our sim, and live life.

Cool

But then again, if we really are in a sim, how do we really know the 'complexity of reality' is?  We won't even know what 'reality' really is because we haven't experienced it.

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I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  



Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.

Cool

So meaning it's possible after a million years.  But how do we know that million years has not been passed if we're actually inside a simulation?  

It doesn't make any difference, does it? The complexity of the real-life simulation is something that will have to be dealt with, at least partially, through the subconscious. And there really isn't anybody who knows what goes on even in their own subconscious mind. Matrix-like simulation was there to give us ideas, not to show us the way things exist.

Cool

What do you mean by that?  That sims are more of an experiment rather than for entertainment and historical value?

I mean that the idea of Neo in the Matrix has nothing to do with reality. The complexity of reality makes the Matrix idea something we could not fathom if we devoted a thousand years to full study of it. The best idea is to use our sim, and live life.

Cool

But then again, if we really are in a sim, how do we really know the 'complexity of reality' is?  We won't even know what 'reality' really is because we haven't experienced it.

All you are really saying is that the idea is fun to play with. Or, maybe it is painful for you.

The sim is complex, right? Now many choices does that give us for what reality is like?

Cool

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I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference?  How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?  

And why wait a million years?  It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI...  Watch The Jungle Book.  It looks all real.  



Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.

Cool

So meaning it's possible after a million years.  But how do we know that million years has not been passed if we're actually inside a simulation?  

It doesn't make any difference, does it? The complexity of the real-life simulation is something that will have to be dealt with, at least partially, through the subconscious. And there really isn't anybody who knows what goes on even in their own subconscious mind. Matrix-like simulation was there to give us ideas, not to show us the way things exist.

Cool

What do you mean by that?  That sims are more of an experiment rather than for entertainment and historical value?

I mean that the idea of Neo in the Matrix has nothing to do with reality. The complexity of reality makes the Matrix idea something we could not fathom if we devoted a thousand years to full study of it. The best idea is to use our sim, and live life.

Cool

But then again, if we really are in a sim, how do we really know the 'complexity of reality' is?  We won't even know what 'reality' really is because we haven't experienced it.

All you are really saying is that the idea is fun to play with. Or, maybe it is painful for you.

The sim is complex, right? Now many choices does that give us for what reality is like?

Cool

?  Can you please rephrase?  I don't know where you're getting at.  Thanks.

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This is something you muse about over drinks or a bowl with close friends. You don't say shit like this out loud, especially when you are looking for additional VC and want then to take you seriously.

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This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
 Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?
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June 21, 2016, 12:31:05 PM
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This is something you muse about over drinks or a bowl with close friends. You don't say shit like this out loud, especially when you are looking for additional VC and want then to take you seriously.



True.  But this is a guy who has already achieved so much and is considered somewhat a titan in the business world.  And not only that, his businesses are forward moving and future facing.  On September he's going to show everyone his detailed plan on how to send a man to Mars then back.  Despite of expressing what he really thinks, how can you really not take him seriously?

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June 21, 2016, 12:34:28 PM
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This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
 Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality?  And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?

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June 21, 2016, 01:09:52 PM
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This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
 Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality?  And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?

Come on. You are only imagining that you are asking these questions. You are in the simulation, and haven't really asked anything.

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June 21, 2016, 01:57:49 PM
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This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
 Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality?  And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?

Come on. You are only imagining that you are asking these questions. You are in the simulation, and haven't really asked anything.

 Grin

Then again, how do I know I'm really in a simulation if I haven't experienced reality?  How do I kmow that I'm only imagining asking a question when I am really actually asking a question?

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June 21, 2016, 05:52:25 PM
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This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
 Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality?  And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?

Come on. You are only imagining that you are asking these questions. You are in the simulation, and haven't really asked anything.

 Grin

Then again, how do I know I'm really in a simulation if I haven't experienced reality?  How do I kmow that I'm only imagining asking a question when I am really actually asking a question?

It doesn't really matter, since you only think that you are asking the question. Or do you?

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June 21, 2016, 10:39:51 PM
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This guy is a fraud and a criminal. He is bribing corrupt politicians such as John McCain, to get favors for his firm (Space X). He is leeching the American defense and space budgets, by selling his over-priced and low quality rockets. Want to make America great again? Get rid of criminals such as McCain and Elon Musk.

But but but... he created tesla...

The supposed iconic man besides mark zurkeberg.. I dont blame the guy though cause hes doing what most people with money do anyways.

It sad to see the corruption but what can you do about it..?
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June 22, 2016, 06:46:56 AM
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 "But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality?  And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?"

 If 15 billion here = 15 hours there, their reality would seem to us like a 1983 web-cam live stream. As to refresh rates, a natural reality should not have one. imo.
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