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March 10, 2013, 01:48:17 AM
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Users of Silk Road may soon find the potential of 'Bitmessage' (now in version 0.2.6, bitmessage.org) to list products and buy directly from dealers.
It has the added potential for sharing experiences with others and give feedback about product suppliers in a rather interesting way, and certainly with a serious potential as a disruptive technology, not just for Silk Road users, but for activists, pacifists and freedom of speech defenders, and of course, to the bad guys, also.
As with any technology with a great potential, it may have its downsides and be prone to misuse.
But as piece of technology, it is great. I hope people make good and responsible use of it Wink

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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March 10, 2013, 02:01:25 AM
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I hope people make good and responsible use of it Wink

Hmm. In the thread title you advertise what I interpret you believe as an irresponsible use for it.
How about some detail on how/when bitmessage accepts Bitcoin?

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March 10, 2013, 03:46:13 AM
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To send or receive bitcoins you must need to communicate the bitcoin addresses along your message. Simple.
I don't advocate the use of Drugs in any way, but I think Silk Road is much better than what was the black market before, so I am all up for it. Less violence, less fuss for everyone. Polices should be lifting their hands to the sky waving them in happiness. Now things don't happen in the streets in the most ugly and human decadent way. Thank God!

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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March 10, 2013, 04:02:58 AM
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what about escrow?

and the seller account fee that helps reduce short term scammers from gettings noobs to FE?
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Last edit: March 10, 2013, 11:29:16 AM by remotemass
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Drug dealers would probably have to use an approach: "First taste is always free". Once client was confident with a very cheap or free sample of the product, the drug dealer could send products to the same client, that they would now have the address from, in any quantity desired, for the actual price.

A reliable reputation/feedback system seems slightly more difficult as anyone can create as much identities as he wants and use them as if they were coming from different people.
But the information from the blockchain of the drug dealer's bitcoin address could be a good indicator of satisfaction and real business.

This model could work for any kind of business, giving great freedom to merchants and consumers, namely to evade from taxes and fees.

What would help would be that the software provided a system of aggregation/hashtags that made it possible to find and subscribe for messages within your topic of interest and you were looking for.

This could be done if in the software you had a field in "Your Identities" for hashtags, that like hashtags in twitter, enabled to subscribe an identity to all messages sent from an identity with that hashtag. Maybe you could have white-list hashtags and black-list hashtags. The latter for blocking messages that also had hashtags that would make you override the interest you had in the first place in regards to the white-list hashtags.
So for instance if you were interested in #religion but were particulary annoyed by #spiritism or by #scientology, you could make your identity have #religion as a white-list hashtag and @spiritism and @scientology as blacklist hashtags, so that you would receive messages from someone sending them from an identitiy with #religion hashtag but not messages broadcasted from an identity that had that same hashtag, #religion, but also the other two that you added as blacklist, #spiritism and #scientology.
Also if the sender identity had, for instance, #sport as whitelist hashtag but also @football as blacklist hashtag of their identity the messages of that identity to be sent to everyone associated with the hashtag #sport would be overrided by the blcak-list hashtag and not sent to those had also #football as an hashtag.
You could always block/ignore individual identities, the same way, of course if were getting annoyed and/or spammed by them in an unacceptable way.

Also would help if the plain text message could be edited and rendered as an html page, like on a browser. Or you could send a file as binary text and the software was intelligent enough to be able to render it as a file attachment.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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March 10, 2013, 09:21:15 PM
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Well a simple forum can substitute for a reliable feedback system, even if the lack of a startup fee allows more scammers to take a crack at it.

But this is what I don't see working:

Drug dealers would probably have to use an approach: "First taste is always free". Once client was confident with a very cheap or free sample of the product, the drug dealer could send products to the same client, that they would now have the address from, in any quantity desired, for the actual price.

Escrow is important. Without it it's way too easy to send someone the most killer shit they ever had in their life, then when they're baited go all tony76. It just won't work.

Also, I don't buy drugs online anymore by the way, but when I did I would have never bought from somebody who didn't need to ask me my address every single time. So sketchy.
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