Campaign Manager's Should be appointed by the MODS or Public Opinions!

[Joel_Jantsen]

So a whole lot of retarded people are lined up into Managing Signature Campaigns without knowing the rules themselves.Turns out Gianluca was not the only one.

I had discussions with SFR10 to participate in his campaign and he seems to have extra set of rules which I must follow.Now I understand that he wants to go all anti-spam but there is a limit to what you can expect from a member.According to Mr SFR10 ,I should not be posting without the time gap of 30 mins.Doesn't matter how interesting is the discussion or the topic ,if I make a post ,Mr SFR10 gives an additional restriction of 30 minutes (like the 360 seconds frame for newbies).Here's what he had to say.

Can you explain the rule ? From what I understand ,I should not have consecutive posts one after other ? Like there should be a gap of 30 minutes between each post ?

Yes, that's correct. A gap of 30 minutes (at least) between each posts.

I'm sorry but I work and I come online only after work .Also there are cases when I'm involved in discussions to which we quote and reply simultaneously,.I cannot make someone wait in an argument for 30 mins right ? You just lose the cycle.However I won't really make 50 posts in a day or two I would be posting throughout the week.Not really for signature campaign but I generally end up posting 70-80 times a week or if I'm busy just 10 times.Depends on the topic and stuff.Also forum doesn't really have such rules to not post continuously unless of course  I'm spamming.You could maybe give me a limit such as 10 posts maximum a day but again if I see a topic which interests me I can't hold myself from posting just because I'm not obliged to post.I feel I'm being restricted to use the forum this way.Any exceptions ?

Now the hilarious reply.

Sorry but can't give exception (it would be unfair to those I didn't). Also it would be best to look for another campaign since the campaign I'm managing, is for short term only. I'm against this kinds of posting behavior, it has a spammy nature and sort of panic style as well. I'm against users that prolong discussions (in anyway). Lastly, regarding making someone wait in an argument, you could always post an update to your previous post or better PM the user directly.

So I should give up my rights to speak openly just because SFR10 has hired me and he is very concerned about the campaign when he himself has posts which doesn't go by his rules.I should be messaging random people just because I'm unofficially banned from the forum to not to post ? Sounds VERY FUCKIN lame.

My Suggestion :
Instead of random people come up with immature stuff to manage campaigns ,only allow respected members of the community or proven ones like Lutpin/Yahoo/Hilarious/Mex to manage the campaigns.Or make a set of rules which should be followed by every campaign manager.Whatever controls spam but doesn't take our restrictions as a regular poster.

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[Lutpin]

Without commenting on the rules and my opinion about SFR10 as a campaign manager, there's an easy solution I see in this case.
Avoid campaigns managed by users you don't get along with.
It might not always be easy, sometimes there are very few campaigns open (even less if you got some expectations), but in the end, it works.


Whether or not it would be wise to creat some sort of ground rules/overwatch for campaigns due to other/different reasons, that's another thing which I think would be worth discussing, though.

So a whole lot of retarded people are lined up into Managing Signature Campaigns without knowing the rules themselves.

Anyone remember Robertt?

[Quickseller]

The forum will generally not tell people how to conduct business 

If you have an issue and/or concern with/about a signature campaign manager that the campaign manager cannot resolve to your satisfaction then you should escalate the issue to the owner of whatever the signature campaign is advertising.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Whether or not it would be wise to creat some sort of ground rules/overwatch for campaigns due to other/different reasons, that's another thing which I think would be worth discussing, though.

Everyone is trying to be Lutpin nowadays.What have you done ?

So a whole lot of retarded people are lined up into Managing Signature Campaigns without knowing the rules themselves.

Anyone remember Robertt?
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Oh well that was the same day I found out he will turn out to be a true scammer that he always was.

If you have an issue and/or concern with/about a signature campaign manager that the campaign manager cannot resolve to your satisfaction then you should escalate the issue to the owner of whatever the signature campaign is advertising.

That makes sense QS,problem is ,forum is quite hyped about a few names being a campaign manager and whenever a thread comes off about requirement of the manager ,these shill accounts misguide members who are not really aware how good the manager is.Resulting,the campaign being handed over to someone who clearly has no idea how to run it.

I have messaged the ICOO campaign co coordinator about it.Waiting for his inputs.

[Quickseller]

If you have a problem with a certain rule that a campaign manager has then you can discuss this concern with the business owner. If it is a bad rule and the owner does not override the rule then it is the business that suffers and they have that right.

A business can hire a campaign manager for whatever reason they wish, including bad reasons, or for no reason at all. However with that being said, if I was a business owner and was asking for recommendations as to who to hire (for a signature campaign manager or otherwise), then I would not give very much weight to the opinion of someone I do not know, especially if they don't present any verifiable facts that might backup their opinion, so the effect of shills is nearly zero.

[From Above]

Is this thread a call for more centralization ¿

~CfA~

[botany]

Public opinion will not throw up the most desirable result.
A lot of people (signature spammers) will prefer a campaign like yobit which pays them no matter what. This will easily outnumber the people who are bothered by signature spam.

[hilariousandco]

If you don't agree or like their terms then don't sign up or leave the camaign. They can run them how they see fit but it's up to users whether they want to participate under those rules.

[SFR10]

So a whole lot of retarded people are lined up into Managing Signature Campaigns without knowing the rules themselves.Turns out Gianluca was not the only one.

So now I'm retarded just because I'm trying to teach users like you to try not to keep on panic posting whenever you come online in forum. If your talking about me not knowing the rules here, I do know forum rules (pretty good) and just because it hasn't stated to not posts every other minute, doesn't mean you could/should keep going with this type of behavior.

Now I understand that he wants to go all anti-spam but there is a limit to what you can expect from a member.

How hard it is to control posting for a 30 minutes, aside from not cluttering the forum, what will you lose?

Also there are cases when I'm involved in discussions to which we quote and reply simultaneously,.I cannot make someone wait in an argument for 30 mins right ? You just lose the cycle.

Not all your posts were discussions involving others but the way you post is always few minutes apart, regardless of it being in discussions with others or just simply commenting on a thread, so don't give me the excuse of making someone wait in an argument.
 

So I should give up my rights to speak openly just because SFR10 has hired me and he is very concerned about the campaign when he himself has posts which doesn't go by his rules.I should be messaging random people just because I'm unofficially banned from the forum to not to post

I never said or meant you should give up your right to speak openly. I told you to either post an update to your previous post or simple PM them. It's not that hard to PM someone and tell them, you'll be posting an update to your previous post regarding the discussion/argument you were in. Could you care to show me regarding the posts that I have in which doesn't go by my own rules? (the only posts I have that are few minutes apart are those posts I made when I start a campaign in which 1st and 2nd post of the thread are done by me.) When your in discussion with someone, sending them a message, doesn't makes them being random all of a sudden.

Instead of random people come up with immature stuff to manage campaigns

Not cluttering the forum in a short time, it's not something immature but people like you who don't know how to be flexible enough in order to blend in it's the one.

Regarding your last PM to me:

What logic is that ? Being anti spam is okay but being petty is not.In a open discussion,I can't resolve stuff or share ideas in private when I don't know who the stranger is.

So you say, you know everyone you talk and argue in public and if you happen to PM them, then all of a sudden they become stranger to you?

My conclusion about users like you:
You seem to embrace the idea of making some cents by posting, in a way that it turns out as more of a necessity rather than luxury of this forum and to add to that, a lot of users seem to put little to no effort and expect to get something they don't deserve.

On a side note to everything I said, as campaign owner requested to give users like you a chance and ditch my personal rule, I'll be allowing you in the campaign (if you still want the last spot for your rank). Let me know the soonest.