Does xbtce.com is from same owner of btc-e

[mobnepal]

I have done few trades in xbtce and also got bitcoin to my wallet however withdraw gone through manual process and aren't big. I want to do high volume transaction with them as i am seeing them getting promoted by btc-e.com so can xbtce be trusted as btc-e.com ?

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[Lord1700]

They're partner. Well i can say XBTCe can be trusted, they have been in the industry for more than 10 years.

Sorry this i just registered with this forum just to reply your msg and forgot to make an introduction.

[mobnepal]

They're partner. Well i can say XBTCe can be trusted, they have been in the industry for more than 10 years.

Sorry this i just registered with this forum just to reply your msg and forgot to make an introduction. Here is my fb profile http://www.facebook.com/juta14x

Does you have any link to support this partnership? I couldn't find any blog post or article from btc-e about this partnership or whatever they have with xbtce.

they have been in the industry for more than 10 years.

I think xbtce have just started their trading, so why you are saying they are in industry for more than 10 years.

[cryptolord]

They're partner. Well i can say XBTCe can be trusted, they have been in the industry for more than 10 years.

Sorry this i just registered with this forum just to reply your msg and forgot to make an introduction. Here is my fb profile http://www.facebook.com/juta14x

Does you have any link to support this partnership? I couldn't find any blog post or article from btc-e about this partnership or whatever they have with xbtce.

they have been in the industry for more than 10 years.

I think xbtce have just started their trading, so why you are saying they are in industry for more than 10 years.

https://btc-e.com/news/229

[play store]

xbtce.com is not officially owned by btc-e.com but they are partner but xbtce.com displays live data of trading whereas btc-e.com does not but overall i feel that xbtce.com can be trusted due to the btc-e source they belong to.

[zenitzz]

I have done few trades in xbtce and also got bitcoin to my wallet however withdraw gone through manual process and aren't big. I want to do high volume transaction with them as i am seeing them getting promoted by btc-e.com so can xbtce be trusted as btc-e.com ?

No, of course not. you must stay away don't trade at their, i've a feel if that site would run away your money but if you want to try, it's up to you. can you think what for btce have two site.

[pcoin]

@ zenitzz feelings could be as a result of fear or unknown, all the seasons cryptocoin traders here knows that btc-e is legit and they will not support or promote scam site talk less of presenting it in their news.

[coin2.0]

We are delighted to announce the highly anticipated launch of live trading at xBTCe (https://www.xbtce.com/)

In addition, you can now enjoy exciting new features and improved functionality:
• convenient and comprehensive display of instruments, orders and trading history;
• dynamic Level 2 data and trading history;
• deep integration with our fully-featured client area;
• improved chat and news feed;
• new and safe APIs.
• wide range of Deposit/Withdrawal options

We hope you will enjoy the new xBTCe (https://www.xbtce.com/) interface and services, and we are looking forward to your feedback. Simply visit our special section in Support Desk (https://support.xbtce.info/) to provide comments and feedback.

from btc-e

[coin2.0]

xbtce,the display of it looks good,and the chart is from tradingview.

[zenitzz]

Possibility the site owners is different we can not have such an assumption that just because both sites have almost the same name, may be the other one just using  similarity to get trust from the people.

[mobnepal]

Possibility the site owners is different we can not have such an assumption that just because both sites have almost the same name, may be the other one just using  similarity to get trust from the people.

It is not just assumption if you look at this https://btc-e.com/news/229
it seems both are owned by same company. I have already done few trading on xbtce however i don't like the way they limit trading size with increment and decrement by 0.01 btc. And withdraw to bitcoin also seems manual rather than automatic.

[maydna]

I have done few trades in xbtce and also got bitcoin to my wallet however withdraw gone through manual process and aren't big. I want to do high volume transaction with them as i am seeing them getting promoted by btc-e.com so can xbtce be trusted as btc-e.com ?

if you want to high volume transaction, you can go to poloniex. in poloniex, you can find many of altcoins that have high volume transaction and you can get much profit with that altcoin. in this sept, many altcoins suddenly get pump and get to jump to the sky. its a good choice if you want to make more bitcoin.

[neochiny]

Possibility the site owners is different we can not have such an assumption that just because both sites have almost the same name, may be the other one just using  similarity to get trust from the people.

It is not just assumption if you look at this https://btc-e.com/news/229
it seems both are owned by same company. I have already done few trading on xbtce however i don't like the way they limit trading size with increment and decrement by 0.01 btc. And withdraw to bitcoin also seems manual rather than automatic.

Huh. What I see when I look at that link is this


* It does state that they are partners.
* Anyway @OP why don't you just ask support from btc-e.com? Ask if they are supporting xbtce or something.

[simon149]

Any more recent experiences with BTC-e and xBTCE?
Still seems like a weird construction and I am not sure whether to trust them or not.
Also a first respons of a new user saying its amazing usually is not a good sign, but an indication of spamming and scamming.

[RogueScholar]

Yeah, I'm skeptical of their bona fides as well. It's hard to trust a site that can't even use spell check on the same page that they're asking for your date of birth and two ID verification documents (note that they say to use Lathin [sic] characters in the form):http://picpaste.com/pics/JUCjBo93.1497531587.png

[cachantun]

I sent them my data for verification and thus to be able to withdraw funds in btc-e immediately but it has been more than a month and every time I ask them for my verification they tell me that they have many requests and that I should continue to wait ¬¬

[Sleepwalker2]

I sent them my data for verification and thus to be able to withdraw funds in btc-e immediately but it has been more than a month and every time I ask them for my verification they tell me that they have many requests and that I should continue to wait ¬¬

 A month!! wow. I just submitted mine yesterday. I guess I'll stop checking the site to see if it has been done...

[cachantun]

I sent them my data for verification and thus to be able to withdraw funds in btc-e immediately but it has been more than a month and every time I ask them for my verification they tell me that they have many requests and that I should continue to wait ¬¬

 A month!! wow. I just submitted mine yesterday. I guess I'll stop checking the site to see if it has been done...

Dont waste much time checking. I sent my documents on May 31 xD

[simon149]

Lol almost 3 weeks passed?
That is quite a waiting line !

I must also be close to 3 weeks; but still not sure about that whole website/company.
Tons of spelling errors and even their constructions seems somewhat mysterious..

[Lord1700]

Since the news posted in BTC-e web regarding account verification, xBTCe have received quite a huge amount of people who submitted their documents for verification. And this volume increase drastically. So for those who have submitted document since end of May 2017 might need to wait a little bit longer time for their documents to be processed and their account to be verified. The news really gave big impact. I believe xBTCe team is doing their best to solve this matter as quick as possible. 

[krileayn]

After the take down of BTC-E.com how is xbtc-e.com sill up and running?

I also submitted verification documents a month ago, but ofcourse I won't go near this exchange after the btc-e.com scandal.

[xtimus]

Here's something interesting. I e-mailed btc-e support but they redirected me to a page on xbtc-e for answers.

Won't make any conclusions.

[MAbtc]

After the take down of BTC-E.com how is xbtc-e.com sill up and running?

I also submitted verification documents a month ago, but ofcourse I won't go near this exchange after the btc-e.com scandal.

Clearly they are closely affiliated; BTC-e has been promoting them as a "partner" for years and they outsourced their verification services to them. They have a similar front end and used the same back end; I'm fairly sure they were the only liquidity provider for xBTCe.

It's clear from their blog post that they are doing their best to distance themselves from BTC-e, but I imagine most of their customer base is skeptical of that, and are probably running for the exits.

[Darooghe]

Does xbtce.com is from same owner of btc-e

Yes. they are same and become ready for another scamming project. Maybe two years later when wallets are hot again

[MAbtc]

Does xbtce.com is from same owner of btc-e

Yes. they are same and become ready for another scamming project. Maybe two years later when wallets are hot again

If so, I don't think that was the intention. And if BTC-e exit scams now (i.e. the Feds couldn't seize any funds), it's because that's the safest option for the owners at this point. The FBI wants these guys extradited and imprisoned.

As for xBTCe, I doubt they could pull off any significant exit scam, as their business will only decline from here. Everyone knows of their connections to BTC-e, and most suspect their ownership is largely the same.

[Darooghe]

Does xbtce.com is from same owner of btc-e

Yes. they are same and become ready for another scamming project. Maybe two years later when wallets are hot again

If so, I don't think that was the intention. And if BTC-e exit scams now (i.e. the Feds couldn't seize any funds), it's because that's the safest option for the owners at this point. The FBI wants these guys extradited and imprisoned.

As for xBTCe, I doubt they could pull off any significant exit scam, as their business will only decline from here. Everyone knows of their connections to BTC-e, and most suspect their ownership is largely the same.

Nobody knows who are they. Nobody knows who btc-e's admins are they. But we know their connections. Any trust to xbtce is stupidity and risky more than ever. if you want gamble your money, try xbtce too. Two years later you will find yourself in present position about btc-e.com

[lattyy]

Same question. Since the domain for btc-e has been seized, the original customers seems to be naturally guided to xbtce.com. This process is very natural, so I do suppose that Btc-e and xbtce are the same team.

[marky89]

Same question. Since the domain for btc-e has been seized, the original customers seems to be naturally guided to xbtce.com. This process is very natural, so I do suppose that Btc-e and xbtce are the same team.

They are definitely connected. To what extent, it isn't clear. The owners (if they are one and the same) may have been careful to obscure any legal ties between the two exchanges. They always framed themselves as "partners" or "affiliates."

Here's a little tidbit from the Russian forums today:

Я пpo этo (xbtce)

bogdanid cкaзaл(a) 09 Aвг 2017 - 03:26:
 
btc-e.io redirect to exmo.com Creation Date: 2017-07-28
btc-e.ru redirect to exmo.com  / created: 2014-08-20
btc-e.top redirect to exmo.com  / Creation Date: 2017-05-14 / Registrant Name: EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD   http://prntscr.com/g63wi2
 
btc-e.nz  Error 522 Connection timed out
 
btc-e1.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e2.com  Error 1016 Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e3.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e4.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov / The site is owned by Distel Enterprise Co.
btc-e5.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e6.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e7.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e8.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e9.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e10.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
 
ALL ABOVE REGISTERED 2016-01-23
 
paxumbt@gmail.com
 
Domain name:             BTC-E.COM
Name Server:             brad.ns.cloudflare.com
Name Server:             gail.ns.cloudflare.com
Creation Date:           2011.06.17
Updated Date:            2013.10.04
Expiration Date:         2015.06.17
 
Status:                  DELEGATED
 
Registrant ID:           YLNB25U-RU
Registrant Name:         Svetleichi Dmitri
Registrant Organization: Svetleichi Dmitri
Registrant Street1:      17, Mira str.
Registrant City:         Moscow
Registrant State:        Moscow region
Registrant Postal Code:  854785
Registrant Country:      RU
Contact Phone:           +7 495 9762456
Contact Fax:             +7 495 9762456
Contact E-mail:          paxumbt@gmail.com
 
Administrative, Technical Contact
Contact ID:              TQ48P0A-RU
Contact Name:            Semenov, Igor
Contact Organization:    BTC-E.com
Contact Street1:         17, Mira str.
Contact City:            Moscow
Contact State:           Moscow region
Contact Postal Code:     854563
Contact Country:         RU
Contact Phone:           +7 495 9762456
Contact Fax:             +7 495 9762456
Contact E-mail:          support@btc-e.com
 
Domain Name: BTC-E.COM
Registry Domain ID:
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.instra.net
Registrar URL: http://www.instra.com/
Updated Date: 2013-11-11T00:52:14Z
Creation Date: 2011-06-17T19:24:50Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-06-17T19:24:50Z
Registrar: Instra Corporation Pty Ltd.
Registrar IANA ID: 1376
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: legal@instra.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +61.397831800
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
Registrant Organization: EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD
Registrant Street: PO Box 3469, Road Town
Registrant City: TORTOLA
Registrant State/Province: British Virgin Islands
Registrant Postal Code: 3469
Registrant Country: VG
Registrant Phone: +1.8183371299
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.8183371299
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: partners@btc-e.com
 
imcex.info   Name Servers : ns1: gail.ns.cloudflare.com / ns2: brad.ns.cloudflare.com
 
MT4 on xbtce.com is licensed by  Distel Enterprise Co. Ltd. / Alexander Buyanov / Always Efficient LLC / btc-e /

пpo блoки и зaкpытиe вывoдa нa xbtce
Пpo нaдпиcь "Кoмпaния xBTCe нe пpeдocтaвляeт ycлyги peзидeнтaм Coeдинeнныx Штaтoв Aмepики."
"xBTCe does not provide services for United States residents."
кoтopaя пoявилacь 26.07.2017 google.com в пoмoщь a имeннo кeш гyглa, cтpaниц в кeшe мнoгo + eщe вepcии нa paзныx языкax
Hy и вepификaция пoльзoвaтeлeй btc-e нa xbtce

[1Referee]

Same question. Since the domain for btc-e has been seized, the original customers seems to be naturally guided to xbtce.com. This process is very natural, so I do suppose that Btc-e and xbtce are the same team.

Very likely, but I think they have tried to create some sort of a distance between the two platforms in order to not raise any suspicions. I strongly believe that the authorities will definitely at some point dig into that platform as well. If they do end up to be fully connected, there is obviously a lot to gain for the authorities by shutting that platform down, where they seize all remaining crypto and fiat funds. If I was an xbtce trader, I would immediately withdraw everything at the moment BTC-E went down. If people keep their funds sitting in that platform, they are seriously delusional.

[figmentofmyass]

Same question. Since the domain for btc-e has been seized, the original customers seems to be naturally guided to xbtce.com. This process is very natural, so I do suppose that Btc-e and xbtce are the same team.

Very likely, but I think they have tried to create some sort of a distance between the two platforms in order to not raise any suspicions. I strongly believe that the authorities will definitely at some point dig into that platform as well. If they do end up to be fully connected, there is obviously a lot to gain for the authorities by shutting that platform down, where they seize all remaining crypto and fiat funds. If I was an xbtce trader, I would immediately withdraw everything at the moment BTC-E went down. If people keep their funds sitting in that platform, they are seriously delusional.

agreed, their "business as usual" blog post wasn't too convincing. i've always thought of them as the same company, and i'm sure the same goes for others.

but re: the bolded, is there any indication that there is a significant user base on xbtce to begin with? they used btc-e for liquidity, presumably because they don't have enough of their own. i believe they required verification, too. i'm not sure what the draw was for users to sign up there.

[1Referee]

but re: the bolded, is there any indication that there is a significant user base on xbtce to begin with? they used btc-e for liquidity, presumably because they don't have enough of their own. i believe they required verification, too. i'm not sure what the draw was for users to sign up there.

Everything related to the existence of the xbtce platform is questionable. When it comes to the differences, and then mainly the reason why people would sign up there, is that they offer various features that the main platform doesn't offer. BTC-E could very easily incorporate all features, but they on purposely created a secondary platform, that at the same time, indeed happens to require verification. I strongly believe that BTC-E created that exchange as a backup plan, in case something (we know what happened) would force their main platform to shut down. Currently, these are the volumes of the xbtce platform; https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/xbtce/ These volumes may however grow in the coming months, as I believe that there are enough BTC-E victims willing to hop over to xbtce.

[aaron25177]

When I had created my xbtce account, they did not have the "no US customers" clause on their site.  Today i got the email notification from xbtce to provide non-us residency proof or remove any funds and the status was changed from verified to unverified.  i hope whatever the new incarnation of btce doesnt do the same thing.

[figmentofmyass]

but re: the bolded, is there any indication that there is a significant user base on xbtce to begin with? they used btc-e for liquidity, presumably because they don't have enough of their own. i believe they required verification, too. i'm not sure what the draw was for users to sign up there.

Everything related to the existence of the xbtce platform is questionable. When it comes to the differences, and then mainly the reason why people would sign up there, is that they offer various features that the main platform doesn't offer. BTC-E could very easily incorporate all features, but they on purposely created a secondary platform, that at the same time, indeed happens to require verification. I strongly believe that BTC-E created that exchange as a backup plan, in case something (we know what happened) would force their main platform to shut down. Currently, these are the volumes of the xbtce platform; https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/xbtce/ These volumes may however grow in the coming months, as I believe that there are enough BTC-E victims willing to hop over to xbtce.

that was my first thought, too (xbtce existed as a fallback plan, a more legit exchange, for the owners of btc-e). i guess they were smart enough to require verification, but not smart enough to prohibit US customers outright.

but why would btc-e customers sustaining such losses go to xbtce, who have always been closely affiliated? my first thought is to run as far away from xbtce as possible...

it seems like US-serving exchanges better start registering in the US states they serve. xbtce never did, and is now prohibiting US customers (beginning last month, after the seizure)...

[virasog]

The last I remember it was actually a group of four people and there were a couple other websites besides that. It's not so much a Russian area as a very Eastern European area. I remember talking to a couple of the company Founders when they were first getting started and they had two companies one just inside of Russia and what just outside it Russia because of the different laws they do the things are going to be changing in the future for Bitcoin.

[e-coinomist]

Everything related to the existence of the xbtce platform is questionable. When it comes to the differences, and then mainly the reason why people would sign up there, is that they offer various features that the main platform doesn't offer. BTC-E could very easily incorporate all features, but ... (shortened)

What differences? Their orderbooks looked exactly the same.
I always thought it's the long due frontpage upgrade that BTCe lacked for years.
More tablet trading friendly, and stuff.

[marky89]

Everything related to the existence of the xbtce platform is questionable. When it comes to the differences, and then mainly the reason why people would sign up there, is that they offer various features that the main platform doesn't offer. BTC-E could very easily incorporate all features, but ... (shortened)

What differences? Their orderbooks looked exactly the same.
I always thought it's the long due frontpage upgrade that BTCe lacked for years.
More tablet trading friendly, and stuff.

Same liquidity, same back end. I believe all xbtce users needed to verify; that was one of the key differences. Different front end (although not by much, and even a trollbox, too). Regardless of anything their affiliation with BTC-e is very difficult to deny, so I'd be nervous holding any funds there. In fact, at this point, I'd be nervous holding funds on any exchange that has been serving US customers without proper licensing (i.e. Bitfinex, Kraken, etc).

[e-coinomist]

Same liquidity, same back end. I believe all xbtce users needed to verify; that was one of the key differences. Different front end (although not by much, and even a trollbox, too). Regardless of anything their affiliation with BTC-e is very difficult to deny, so I'd be nervous holding any funds there. In fact, at this point, I'd be nervous holding funds on any exchange that has been serving US customers without proper licensing (i.e. Bitfinex, Kraken, etc).

Bitfinex pulled the release cord on US customers this month (shame!), Kraken got some agreements with european banks one from Munich, the other residing in Luxembourg.
https://www.siliconluxembourg.lu/leading-bitcoin-exchange-kraken-com-announces-partnership-with-paycash/
http://paybefore.com/pay-world/virtual-currency-exchange-kraken-reaches-into-europe-oct-17-2013/
They are a different risk class than those pure Altcoin tradesites from Washington state or Las Vegas.
Damn I'm so far to avoid typing out Poloniex now. They had been once my number #1 choice for everything.

Did 4 US tradesites everyday usually, now expecting 2 of the 3 still standing ones to topple over soon.
I guessed Cryptsy right, so I'm high moods that my guesswork still figures out somehow

In the end you never know. Could we continue to exist by harnessing offshore sites, and offshore only, powered by some shady middelmen to connect Joe Average with the future of banking? Arent tradesites allready become some third party service standing in the middle between Alice and Bob?

[lattyy]

If so, there is a big risk of investing in XBTC-E VOUCHER. I'm going to buy a batch of xBTC-e Vouchers, am I crazy?

Same question. Since the domain for btc-e has been seized, the original customers seems to be naturally guided to xbtce.com. This process is very natural, so I do suppose that Btc-e and xbtce are the same team.

They are definitely connected. To what extent, it isn't clear. The owners (if they are one and the same) may have been careful to obscure any legal ties between the two exchanges. They always framed themselves as "partners" or "affiliates."

Here's a little tidbit from the Russian forums today:

Я пpo этo (xbtce)

bogdanid cкaзaл(a) 09 Aвг 2017 - 03:26:
 
btc-e.io redirect to exmo.com Creation Date: 2017-07-28
btc-e.ru redirect to exmo.com  / created: 2014-08-20
btc-e.top redirect to exmo.com  / Creation Date: 2017-05-14 / Registrant Name: EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD   http://prntscr.com/g63wi2
 
btc-e.nz  Error 522 Connection timed out
 
btc-e1.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e2.com  Error 1016 Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e3.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e4.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov / The site is owned by Distel Enterprise Co.
btc-e5.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e6.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e7.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e8.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e9.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
btc-e10.com  Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
 
ALL ABOVE REGISTERED 2016-01-23
 
paxumbt@gmail.com
 
Domain name:             BTC-E.COM
Name Server:             brad.ns.cloudflare.com
Name Server:             gail.ns.cloudflare.com
Creation Date:           2011.06.17
Updated Date:            2013.10.04
Expiration Date:         2015.06.17
 
Status:                  DELEGATED
 
Registrant ID:           YLNB25U-RU
Registrant Name:         Svetleichi Dmitri
Registrant Organization: Svetleichi Dmitri
Registrant Street1:      17, Mira str.
Registrant City:         Moscow
Registrant State:        Moscow region
Registrant Postal Code:  854785
Registrant Country:      RU
Contact Phone:           +7 495 9762456
Contact Fax:             +7 495 9762456
Contact E-mail:          paxumbt@gmail.com
 
Administrative, Technical Contact
Contact ID:              TQ48P0A-RU
Contact Name:            Semenov, Igor
Contact Organization:    BTC-E.com
Contact Street1:         17, Mira str.
Contact City:            Moscow
Contact State:           Moscow region
Contact Postal Code:     854563
Contact Country:         RU
Contact Phone:           +7 495 9762456
Contact Fax:             +7 495 9762456
Contact E-mail:          support@btc-e.com
 
Domain Name: BTC-E.COM
Registry Domain ID:
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.instra.net
Registrar URL: http://www.instra.com/
Updated Date: 2013-11-11T00:52:14Z
Creation Date: 2011-06-17T19:24:50Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-06-17T19:24:50Z
Registrar: Instra Corporation Pty Ltd.
Registrar IANA ID: 1376
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: legal@instra.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +61.397831800
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Alexander Buyanov
Registrant Organization: EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD
Registrant Street: PO Box 3469, Road Town
Registrant City: TORTOLA
Registrant State/Province: British Virgin Islands
Registrant Postal Code: 3469
Registrant Country: VG
Registrant Phone: +1.8183371299
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.8183371299
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: partners@btc-e.com
 
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пpo блoки и зaкpытиe вывoдa нa xbtce
Пpo нaдпиcь "Кoмпaния xBTCe нe пpeдocтaвляeт ycлyги peзидeнтaм Coeдинeнныx Штaтoв Aмepики."
"xBTCe does not provide services for United States residents."
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[noormcs5]

The last I remember it was actually a group of four people and there were a couple other websites besides that. It's not so much a Russian area as a very Eastern European area. I remember talking to a couple of the company Founders when they were first getting started and they had two companies one just inside of Russia and what just outside it Russia because of the different laws they do the things are going to be changing in the future for Bitcoin.

I wouldn't think of any one website as reflection on the other website. It is simply same thing that people have been doing on the internet for a long time, they start one business to get it flowing to the point where does it need one hundred percent attention all the time and they Branch out to something else.

[posternat]

The last I remember it was actually a group of four people and there were a couple other websites besides that. It's not so much a Russian area as a very Eastern European area. I remember talking to a couple of the company Founders when they were first getting started and they had two companies one just inside of Russia and what just outside it Russia because of the different laws they do the things are going to be changing in the future for Bitcoin.

I wouldn't think of any one website as reflection on the other website. It is simply same thing that people have been doing on the internet for a long time, they start one business to get it flowing to the point where does it need one hundred percent attention all the time and they Branch out to something else.

The only difference is instead of one person branching out to a couple of different things it's three or four people branching out to a couple of different things. I'm not vouching for these people I'm simply saying that I wouldn't find it suspicious that two websites are owned by the same people.