ETH - Hardforked - NOT Decentralized

[Kelarid]

I just saw the 51% ETC ATTACK POOL - Mining ETH until Hashrate exceeds ETCs
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4vf7fj/51_etc_attack_pool_mining_eth_until_hashrate/?st=iraizlyq&sh=759e0160

So that the 51pool is wait for the ETC hash rate to drop before it launch the 51% attack. It might take some time.

The 51pool.org refused to connect now. So does it mean the site has been DDosed to death or hacked to death?

[thejaytiesto]

Hard fork happened in the Ethereum before. It changed from Frontier to Homestead a few months ago.

are you reading this thread? that hard fork was planned and expected and designed to improve the system, something everyone agreed on and was flagged well in advance.

this hard fork is a knee jerk reaction to a poorly designed third party app and solely designed to save asses that don't really deserve to be saved.

Most miners think there should be a hard fork.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4tffta/hard_fork_voting_and_node_adoption_results/?st=iqsyuhdd&sh=7457dd97

most miners? dude... YOUR source is showing us that : 9% agree - 2% says no - 88% DIDNT VOTED. eighty fuc**ing eight. how could you say most miners think there should be a hard fork???

That is how the democracy works. No vote, no say. If the non votes want to express their votes, they should vote.

Except the invention of blockchains was to get rid of the failures of democracy, and so called democracy has been a failure again as we can see with the split of Ethereum in 2 coins. Now you have the most politically influenced blockchain ever.

[anders lokka]

Bitcoin will fork too, so,let's party with new 2017 trend: fork everything

[bbc.reporter]

Hard fork happened in the Ethereum before. It changed from Frontier to Homestead a few months ago.

are you reading this thread? that hard fork was planned and expected and designed to improve the system, something everyone agreed on and was flagged well in advance.

this hard fork is a knee jerk reaction to a poorly designed third party app and solely designed to save asses that don't really deserve to be saved.

Most miners think there should be a hard fork.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4tffta/hard_fork_voting_and_node_adoption_results/?st=iqsyuhdd&sh=7457dd97

most miners? dude... YOUR source is showing us that : 9% agree - 2% says no - 88% DIDNT VOTED. eighty fuc**ing eight. how could you say most miners think there should be a hard fork???

That is how the democracy works. No vote, no say. If the non votes want to express their votes, they should vote.

Except the invention of blockchains was to get rid of the failures of democracy, and so called democracy has been a failure again as we can see with the split of Ethereum in 2 coins. Now you have the most politically influenced blockchain ever.

How is the original chain politically influenced? I thought there was no "Vitalik" in it that calls the shots. It is more anarchistic without any influence on it from one person or group. But where is the ETC community and how active are they in bringing the original chain to a better future?

[Auponef]

Hard fork happened in the Ethereum before. It changed from Frontier to Homestead a few months ago.

are you reading this thread? that hard fork was planned and expected and designed to improve the system, something everyone agreed on and was flagged well in advance.

this hard fork is a knee jerk reaction to a poorly designed third party app and solely designed to save asses that don't really deserve to be saved.

Most miners think there should be a hard fork.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4tffta/hard_fork_voting_and_node_adoption_results/?st=iqsyuhdd&sh=7457dd97

most miners? dude... YOUR source is showing us that : 9% agree - 2% says no - 88% DIDNT VOTED. eighty fuc**ing eight. how could you say most miners think there should be a hard fork???

That is how the democracy works. No vote, no say. If the non votes want to express their votes, they should vote.

Except the invention of blockchains was to get rid of the failures of democracy, and so called democracy has been a failure again as we can see with the split of Ethereum in 2 coins. Now you have the most politically influenced blockchain ever.

How is the original chain politically influenced? I thought there was no "Vitalik" in it that calls the shots. It is more anarchistic without any influence on it from one person or group. But where is the ETC community and how active are they in bringing the original chain to a better future?

If the community does not like the proposal by the Vitalik and other developers, they do not have to adopt his proposal.

[Juhagic]

If the community does not like the proposal by the Vitalik and other developers, they do not have to adopt his proposal.

That is right. That is why the ETC still exists. However, if it does not have many supporters, it is just a pump and dump tool.

[Kelarid]

If the community does not like the proposal by the Vitalik and other developers, they do not have to adopt his proposal.

That is right. That is why the ETC still exists. However, if it does not have many supporters, it is just a pump and dump tool.

I noticed the ETC price has dropped more than 70% from the peak. That is even before the dump by big holders.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Hard fork happened in the Ethereum before. It changed from Frontier to Homestead a few months ago.

are you reading this thread? that hard fork was planned and expected and designed to improve the system, something everyone agreed on and was flagged well in advance.

this hard fork is a knee jerk reaction to a poorly designed third party app and solely designed to save asses that don't really deserve to be saved.

Most miners think there should be a hard fork.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4tffta/hard_fork_voting_and_node_adoption_results/?st=iqsyuhdd&sh=7457dd97

most miners? dude... YOUR source is showing us that : 9% agree - 2% says no - 88% DIDNT VOTED. eighty fuc**ing eight. how could you say most miners think there should be a hard fork???

That is how the democracy works. No vote, no say. If the non votes want to express their votes, they should vote.

Except the invention of blockchains was to get rid of the failures of democracy, and so called democracy has been a failure again as we can see with the split of Ethereum in 2 coins. Now you have the most politically influenced blockchain ever.

Democracy has failings like anything else, but that's much different than saying democracy is a failure.  Just sayin'.

Boy this eth/etc drama just gives me a big stiffie.  And I wouldn't touch either with a 10000 foot pole.

[EastSound]

If the community does not like the proposal by the Vitalik and other developers, they do not have to adopt his proposal.

That is right. That is why the ETC still exists. However, if it does not have many supporters, it is just a pump and dump tool.

I noticed the ETC price has dropped more than 70% from the peak. That is even before the dump by big holders.

The ETC price has risen a bit in the last few days. But the price is still lower than the price a week ago.

[Juhagic]

If the community does not like the proposal by the Vitalik and other developers, they do not have to adopt his proposal.

That is right. That is why the ETC still exists. However, if it does not have many supporters, it is just a pump and dump tool.

I noticed the ETC price has dropped more than 70% from the peak. That is even before the dump by big holders.

The ETC price has risen a bit in the last few days. But the price is still lower than the price a week ago.

In the past week, the price of ETC is more stable than the ETH. It seems it has some people to stablelise the price.

[anthonydar]

If the community does not like the proposal by the Vitalik and other developers, they do not have to adopt his proposal.

That is right. That is why the ETC still exists. However, if it does not have many supporters, it is just a pump and dump tool.

I noticed the ETC price has dropped more than 70% from the peak. That is even before the dump by big holders.

The ETC price has risen a bit in the last few days. But the price is still lower than the price a week ago.

In the past week, the price of ETC is more stable than the ETH. It seems it has some people to stablelise the price.

Both coins are trading within a small trading rate. They might be consoidating at the moment. before the next move.

[Vindicate]

The Etheruem developers propose a change to invalidate the hacked Ethereum. If you do not agree with them, you do not have to run the hard fork.

And thats exactly what we did! Thats where ETC came from.. Its the true decentralized Ether, and the best part is we shook off the "cult of Vitalik" in the process. Win win!= Keep our original coins AND stay decentralized AND Piss off the Cult. Life couldnt be better.

[Auponef]

The Etheruem developers propose a change to invalidate the hacked Ethereum. If you do not agree with them, you do not have to run the hard fork.

And thats exactly what we did! Thats where ETC came from.. Its the true decentralized Ether, and the best part is we shook off the "cult of Vitalik" in the process. Win win!= Keep our original coins AND stay decentralized AND Piss off the Cult. Life couldnt be better.

The Ethereum Foundation and the Vitalik and friends still own most of the ETC. If you help ETC, you help them.