ETH = Game Over

[Btcvilla]

Still not the end of the world.

I'm so surprised /s

[wrong]

Why ETH ?

[portalufonet]

ETH trash is made for fast profit only, there are some whales in, and the whales wants the price pumping and dumping to make tons of money like they are doing since this trashcoin born

ETH hacked, DAO hacked? serious? accident or purposely to make the prices go down? whales buy cheap and then pump the prices again.......

ETH was "allegedly" hacked

100% "purpose"

Sorry for the bad english and stay alway this pyramid pump and dump scam trash coin.

[Docnaster]

ETH trash is made for fast profit only, there are some whales in, and the whales wants the price pumping and dumping to make tons of money like they are doing since this trashcoin born

ETH hacked, DAO hacked? serious? accident or purposely to make the prices go down? whales buy cheap and then pump the prices again.......

ETH was "allegedly" hacked

100% "purpose"

Sorry for the bad english and stay alway this pyramid pump and dump scam trash coin.

Some investors are in it for the long term, that is similar to the bitcoin long term holders. The price is rising now.

[Minecache]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

[AlphaSun]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

[Kaller]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

I do not think the miners will be sued. It is action of getting money back from thieves. They will be praised.

[AlphaSun]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

I do not think the miners will be sued. It is action of getting money back from thieves. They will be praised.

About 80% of the miners who voted support the soft fork. Is there any progress about implementing the fork?

[HR]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

I do not think the miners will be sued. It is action of getting money back from thieves. They will be praised.

About 80% of the miners who voted support the soft fork. Is there any progress about implementing the fork?

Any idea about what percentage of miners actually voted?

[Opquar]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

I do not think the miners will be sued. It is action of getting money back from thieves. They will be praised.

About 80% of the miners who voted support the soft fork. Is there any progress about implementing the fork?

Any idea about what percentage of miners actually voted?

According to the http://ethpool.org/stats/votes, 25% of the miners voted. 80% of them support the soft fork.

[Ayers]

do you believe the price will rise after the fork, or it will rmeain as it is in this moment? the price recovered quite a bit, but it still no where near its prime, i'm not sure if it is wise to keep my etheruem or dump it now

[paratox]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

I do not think the miners will be sued. It is action of getting money back from thieves. They will be praised.

About 80% of the miners who voted support the soft fork. Is there any progress about implementing the fork?

Any idea about what percentage of miners actually voted?

According to the http://ethpool.org/stats/votes, 25% of the miners voted. 80% of them support the soft fork.

Please don't tell me that it only needed 20% of pro-fork votes to force 100% the miners in that pool to follow their will?

Everyone who doesn't vote should of course count as a no vote. But instead they just don't care about what they want, but they still use the hashrate of the non voters to enforce the fork? Thats not fair and it is not democratic!

The same game with ethermine.org...

[Zefasen]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

I do not think the miners will be sued. It is action of getting money back from thieves. They will be praised.

About 80% of the miners who voted support the soft fork. Is there any progress about implementing the fork?

Any idea about what percentage of miners actually voted?

According to the http://ethpool.org/stats/votes, 25% of the miners voted. 80% of them support the soft fork.

Please don't tell me that it only needed 20% of pro-fork votes to force 100% the miners in that pool to follow their will?

Everyone who doesn't vote should of course count as a no vote. But instead they just don't care about what they want, but they still use the hashrate of the non voters to enforce the fork? Thats not fair and it is not democratic!

The same game with ethermine.org...

I agree with you. But in this democratic world, no vote, no power. We should persuade all the miners to vote.

[paratox]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

I do not think the miners will be sued. It is action of getting money back from thieves. They will be praised.

About 80% of the miners who voted support the soft fork. Is there any progress about implementing the fork?

Any idea about what percentage of miners actually voted?

According to the http://ethpool.org/stats/votes, 25% of the miners voted. 80% of them support the soft fork.

Please don't tell me that it only needed 20% of pro-fork votes to force 100% the miners in that pool to follow their will?

Everyone who doesn't vote should of course count as a no vote. But instead they just don't care about what they want, but they still use the hashrate of the non voters to enforce the fork? Thats not fair and it is not democratic!

The same game with ethermine.org...

I agree with you. But in this democratic world, no vote, no power. We should persuade all the miners to vote.

Everyone who wants to change the blockchain should vote, I agree.
Everyone who wants to remain with status quo, should not vote for a change = doing nothing or saying no should be treated equal.

[Eugenar]

The price will slowly dwindle down and so will the volume. Anyone stuffing money in ETH at this point is either delusional, in denial, or were conned into believing it would someday rise again. The legalities haven't even set in yet. Wait until class action lawsuits enter the picture and a federal or state investigation begins.

Legalities? Under what country will they be brought???

Will the miners all over the world be sued? Could be be sued by the attacker or the Ethereum holder, or DAO holder?

I do not think the miners will be sued. It is action of getting money back from thieves. They will be praised.

About 80% of the miners who voted support the soft fork. Is there any progress about implementing the fork?

Any idea about what percentage of miners actually voted?

According to the http://ethpool.org/stats/votes, 25% of the miners voted. 80% of them support the soft fork.

Please don't tell me that it only needed 20% of pro-fork votes to force 100% the miners in that pool to follow their will?

Everyone who doesn't vote should of course count as a no vote. But instead they just don't care about what they want, but they still use the hashrate of the non voters to enforce the fork? Thats not fair and it is not democratic!

The same game with ethermine.org...

I agree with you. But in this democratic world, no vote, no power. We should persuade all the miners to vote.

Everyone who wants to change the blockchain should vote, I agree.
Everyone who wants to remain with status quo, should not vote for a change = doing nothing or saying no should be treated equal.

In the Brexit vote, only 72% of the registered vote. 52% of them vote for leaving the EU. The whole UK will leave as a result.

[paratox]

In the Brexit vote, only 72% of the registered vote. 52% of them vote for leaving the EU. The whole UK will leave as a result.

So just because voting system in the political world is working that way, it automatically means it is the best way to do a vote?

EDIT: Also consider that there is a "Don't care" option which is equivalent to the option of not voting on Brexit.
Why does "Not voting" count as "Don't care" instead of "Going with status quo" ?

[mining1]

Because.. YOUR MOM !
What a stupid question. If they dont vote it means they dont care taht much about the two possible outcomes. If theres a vote / referendum both parties, NO and YES, should express their option. You see it more logical for the NO party to simply not vote and stay home and their inaction counting as an actual action (voting no) while the YES party is doing it ?
If they dont vote it can also mean they dont like any of these options, so you cannot count an inaction of not voting as either no or yes.

[paratox]

If they dont vote it means they dont care taht much about the two possible outcomes.

There is an option for the people who "dont care". With blockchain consensous, if you don't upgrade(vote) you are ok with status quo. If your not ok with status quo, either turn off your miner or upgrade the protocol and hope that it is gonna be used by more then 51% of the miners(vote).

If theres a vote / referendum both parties, NO and YES, should express their option. You see it more logical for the NO party to simply not vote and stay home and their inaction counting as an actual action (voting no) while the YES party is doing it ?

I see it more  in terms of "status quo" and "changing status quo". Those who want a change, should get active. Why must those who are ok with status quo be forced to get active?

If they dont vote it can also mean they dont like any of these options, so you cannot count an inaction of not voting as either no or yes.

In this case, the hashrate of the people who didn't vote shouldn't be used to enforce the will of the ones who voted, because maybe the non voters don't like to support any of these options.....

[mining1]

Fair enough, but then the hashrate of the people who didn't vote, shouldn't be used to enforce the will of the ones who voted, because maybe they don't like any of these options.

Also in this case, if they dont vote it also means theyre okay with whatever outcome since if they disliked badly one result or wanted badly the other result, they would have voted already. And they could aswell not bother voting because they've seen the results "live" with yes leading the herd. So as you can see, there are plenty of options of why one wont vote, so you cannot simply take that inaction and go with the logic " silence is an answer too ". I mainly voted because i wanted badly not let the thief go away with milions of ether, possibly even 5 times more than he already stole because he took only ~20% of it , especially thinking about the future POS which will be implemented in early 2017. And in my opinion that would damage ethereum project more than 100 ethereum failed projects. The money losts arent even 10% as important as thief owning anywhere between 3.5% and 15% of ethereum tokens.
Forgot about this, but its an argument aswell : in a real world vote referendum, you can cancel your vote by doing whatever, voting both options, draw hitler face on the paper or whatever is crosing your mind. But here you cannot do that, so its either that, or that. If you dont vote, whatever you think in the back of your head will remain there, since you have the chance to express your option and you dont. The same for uk people who didnt vote for brexit, most likely there are more people who regret not voting because of the result. But it was their option and they ll live with it.
Conclusion : We live in an imperfect world, and we will continue to do so untill we either set the world on fire or an alien invasion will exterminate us. Untill then, we use what we have and deal with it, otherwise it would be anarchy since everyone has an opinion slightly different than the others and we would never agree about anything.

[traderbit]

do you believe the price will rise after the fork, or it will rmeain as it is in this moment? the price recovered quite a bit, but it still no where near its prime, i'm not sure if it is wise to keep my etheruem or dump it now

OP Why game over? See the chart and you can see how Ethereum price has been increased, it was 0.02145 and it was increase to 0.02322 which is an increase of +8%. If an investment of 10BTC was made then within 2 hours during the pump the profit would be 0.8BTC.