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June 19, 2016, 08:11:49 AM
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Hello Thaymos and Forum Moderatros.
My Account Jak1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554544
is got banned for Not any/Unknown Reason..
I was online here 16th June last time and my account was working fine but today when I log in into the forum I saw my account is banned.

I want to ask Moderator please Unban my account.
I am not a spammer, not a scammer not a cheater, and I don't even try to sell my account. this is my own account from the beginning.  then why my account got bannned?
I believe there must be some misunderstanding with my account.


signing message to prove my self:

staked address here (first address)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg14246664#msg14246664

Sign Message:

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Jak1 from bitcointalk today's date is 6/19/206. admin please unban my account.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E1ZsAMWVssEKG9jGwcjuLqN88gLR3oNs6
Signature:
H1g0eW+1f/VnxD1RL1M/LqJQ2LBotXDnL4z0wYCBroScxCUz3mXHLuZJ04CxDSad0474twJ+boiG7X9brSm2GVU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


I am really disapointed with this. I don't even know what was my fault and mistake. what is wrong thing I did there.

I hope my account will re-open as soon as possible.

Thanks.

Best Regards Jak1.
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June 19, 2016, 09:06:29 AM
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I am not a spammer,  not a cheater,

You sure about that?

Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it. Most of the time you loose, and it takes lot's of time, money, bets and effort to skill up.
I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money. Also-know when to quit when you are ahead. Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs,I will replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit. Grin


When you gamble, Make your own rules, and FOLLOW them strictly. 

I have a lot of rules when I gamble, I have "fun" money whether it be bitcoin or cash.  I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money.

Also-know when to quit when you are ahead, I don't ever set a goal for how much I want to be up, because if you are so close to that amount, you might never hit it and then be out of money.  Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs, I will say, ok, I am going to be up this amount no matter what, and replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit.

Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it.

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When you gamble, Make your own rules, and FOLLOW them strictly. 

I have a lot of rules when I gamble, I have "fun" money whether it be bitcoin or cash.  I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money.

Also-know when to quit when you are ahead, I don't ever set a goal for how much I want to be up, because if you are so close to that amount, you might never hit it and then be out of money.  Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs, I will say, ok, I am going to be up this amount no matter what, and replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit.

Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it.



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June 19, 2016, 10:46:44 AM
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When you join the forum you shouldve read the rules and followed them but instead it looks like you decided to copy and paste others posts.

Enjoy the permaban and we hope to not see you back soon

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June 19, 2016, 12:34:20 PM
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I am sorry. but this is not what you are thinking. there is just a big mis-understanding.
I've just took a point for his post. I've not copied the whole post because my attention was not that.
actually I've read that post before and that point was in my mind and I mentioned it somewhere.
that's it.
the real copy-paster is Temo58 not me.. you can see my history.

please re-open my account now.
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June 19, 2016, 01:54:45 PM
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I've just took a point for his post. I've not copied the whole post because my attention was not that.
But you did plagiarize most of the original post context doe :O
All you did was adding an extra 20 words, effortlessly.

[1]Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it. Most of the time you loose, and it takes lot's of time, money, bets and effort to skill up.
[2]I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money. [3]Also-know when to quit when you are ahead. [4]Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs,I will replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit. Grin

Original post:
When you gamble, Make your own rules, and FOLLOW them strictly. 

I have a lot of rules when I gamble, I have "fun" money whether it be bitcoin or cash.  [2]I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money.

[3]Also-know when to quit when you are ahead, I don't ever set a goal for how much I want to be up, because if you are so close to that amount, you might never hit it and then be out of money.  [4]Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs, I will say, ok, I am going to be up this amount no matter what, and replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit.

[1]Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it.

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June 19, 2016, 01:58:03 PM
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I am sorry. but this is not what you are thinking. there is just a big mis-understanding.
I've just took a point for his post. I've not copied the whole post because my attention was not that.
actually I've read that post before and that point was in my mind and I mentioned it somewhere.
that's it.
the real copy-paster is Temo58 not me.. you can see my history.

please re-open my account now.

You copied most of it and just switched it round a bit no doubt it an attempt to go unnoticed. Your account wont be unbanned.

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June 19, 2016, 03:39:23 PM
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Alright. Since the situation getting very worst here, I want to Disclose Publicly that I've bought Jak1 account 25th may.
I had no control of this account before 24th may.

I've paid 0.1 BTC for this account. my attention wasn't to spam and scam here. this account was enrolled in [banned mixer] signature campaign. I thought it would be a good investment and I'll get ROI in just 3 weeks. that's why I bought this account.
I just bought this account to earn some bucks via signature campaign. my attention wasn't to scam or do anything else.

The seller of the account don't give me any sign message for the account selling deal but he give me the whole btc address with private key. that's why I don't bother him to sign message.

You can see Security Log:
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php
(I don't have any other evidence, except the password change, because I've don't sign message and stake new address to avoid tagging as sold account)

the deal was done in Google+ Hangout service. and the seller band me from there after my payment - it was weird for me but I just took it an usual thing and don't think about that.
but now I've realized that, the seller give me an account which was involved in spamming on the forum.
You can see the posts after 24th may. you'll realize the writing style is completely changed..

I don't think I should get punished for something which is not my fault or not I've involved in.

That's all My Lord..
Now I need justice.

I hope I'll get back my account after clarifying all this.

thanks.


Edit: I thought the seller giving me the btc addresses with private keys so I don't need to stake new address and sign new message, I thought that doing this can make my account shady and get negative feedback for buying account.
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June 19, 2016, 03:41:43 PM
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You buy the garbage along with the account. It changes nothing.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

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June 19, 2016, 03:43:12 PM
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You bought a faulty product, go ask for a refund. Or stop selling/buying accounts once and for all. Your call.

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June 19, 2016, 03:46:21 PM
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You just signed a message from an address that was posted on May 19.....

I am sure an admin can look into the IP address range and browser fingerprints to check the likely-hood of your account being sold, but it is not looking good for you.

Why don't you explain how exactly you were introduced to the person that you bought the account from on google hangouts? Why exactly did (or would he) block you after  the transaction? I would think he would want to keep lines of communication open in case you wanted to bring repeat business.
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The forum discourages account sales, therefore no one (at least, no one in authority) has much - if any - sympathy for you in this situation. It is your fault for not doing proper research on the account that you bought before completing the transaction for it, and now you're paying the price for it. Congratulations for wasting your money.

I don't think I should get punished for something which is not my fault or not I've involved in.
You are the current owner of the account, therefore you're automatically involved in it.

You just signed a message from an address that was posted on May 19.....
I believe the account had private keys to the staked address transferred along with it:
Edit: I thought the seller giving me the btc addresses with private keys so I don't need to stake new address and sign new message
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June 19, 2016, 05:02:02 PM
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Alright. Since the situation getting very worst here, I want to Disclose Publicly that I've bought Jak1 account 25th may.
I had no control of this account before 24th may.
Seriously, you have contradicted yourself. Can you recall what you said earlier, in your previous post?

I've just took a point for his post. I've not copied the whole post because my attention was not that.
With that being said, the post was posted by you.



You can see the posts after 24th may. you'll realize the writing style is completely changed..
No changes in the writing style, either.



I don't think I should get punished for something which is not my fault or not I've involved in.
It's a fault of yours for buying a trash account, though. Roll Eyes

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Last edit: June 20, 2016, 04:38:57 PM by jak1-alt
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You buy the garbage along with the account. It changes nothing.

How could I know about the garbage? I just bought an account, my attention wasn't to buy a spammy acount.

You bought a faulty product, go ask for a refund. Or stop selling/buying accounts once and for all. Your call.

lolzz... scammers never refund. don't you know this?? by the way I asked for refund but no response.

You just signed a message from an address that was posted on May 19.....

I am sure an admin can look into the IP address range and browser fingerprints to check the likely-hood of your account being sold, but it is not looking good for you.

I hope moderator/admin will be fair and check everything and unban my account.

Why don't you explain how exactly you were introduced to the person that you bought the account from on google hangouts? Why exactly did (or would he) block you after  the transaction? I would think he would want to keep lines of communication open in case you wanted to bring repeat business.

Well, I've contacted her through bitcointalk:

these are some of her alts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=741809
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=775162
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=807006
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=825208

If someone should get banned. then these are the accounts. not mine.

Timelord2067 did some research about his alts here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.860

The forum discourages account sales, therefore no one (at least, no one in authority) has much - if any - sympathy for you in this situation. It is your fault for not doing proper research on the account that you bought before completing the transaction for it, and now you're paying the price for it. Congratulations for wasting your money.

what proper research should I done? there is no way to check every single post and verify that if this is copy pasted or not.
I just checked the posts and I found everyposts good and about the topic. this is all research I can do.

Only one person can know about this and this is the previous owner of the account. I am sure the "Btcltccoin" reported this after 1 month. I don't know what benefit she get by doing this.
Hilarious can verify that who reported against this.

You are the current owner of the account, therefore you're automatically involved in it.

What nonsense? How could be I involved in a spam attempts which done by some one else and I bought the account after almost a week. please think once before saying something.
my fault is only that I bought an account to earn some bitcoin from signature campaign. which is not a bad and illegal think according to forum rules and terms.

Alright. Since the situation getting very worst here, I want to Disclose Publicly that I've bought Jak1 account 25th may.
I had no control of this account before 24th may.
Seriously, you have contradicted yourself. Can you recall what you said earlier, in your previous post?
If you were in my place your first try also would be same as mine.
if you get an account with all private keys and bitcoins address, then you also try to prove that this is only your account from beginning..



I want to ask one Question to KWH, Lutpin and every DT users.
Everytime when a sold account will be revealed you guys left Neutural Feedback(even some time negative also) to inform people that this is a sold account, so treat it as a newbie and don't fall on trust on ranking..
then why your behavior completely changes when the situation is about the posts? when the trust and forum rank don't apply to a sold account then the Posts and Posting quality of the account also shouldn't be applied after buying that.
my request is don't ban my account because of the posts which wrote by someone else.

*Final Words: at last I would again want to request to moderator please re-open my account. I was really don't aware of that spam attempt when I bought this.
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June 20, 2016, 01:13:31 PM
Last edit: June 20, 2016, 02:00:08 PM by Sweetbtc
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Hi i was reading this thread and shocked to see OP mentioned my Profile and accused me that i hold all these accounts . I will like to inform all and JAK1 that i never had JAK1 and i am not related to any of these accounts.

OP never bought any account from me and i am not much online on this forum. I have no Alts either.

I will do some research and will come up will the real ALTs of JAK1.

It wont take me much to do such research.

In my next Post i will tell you real ALTS of JAK1.

Edit: OP mentioned first that it was his mistake that he read the text and tried to  put it in his words (but managed to copy paste instead) and then later says he bought it on 25 APR.


In the first Post he says that this jak1 is mine and i never sold or buy it and now seeing his account premant Ban he is trying to put false statements and trying to confuse the Mods.

OP seems to be confused and trying to do all foolish things.


I again confirm that JAK1 is not mine from any time and it is not sold.

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June 20, 2016, 01:37:43 PM
Last edit: June 20, 2016, 04:11:07 PM by Sweetbtc
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Here you go.  these  accounts are ALTS of Jak1.


GregH37
geopolisch
jak1
jamalaezaz
ardenyham
Digitial_lord
extrabyte
btcschool
StarOfBTC
OrangeSeller


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June 20, 2016, 03:07:36 PM
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what proper research should I done? there is no way to check every single post and verify that if this is copy pasted or not.
I just checked the posts and I found everyposts good and about the topic. this is all research I can do.
If you genuinely believe that you couldn't have possibly done any other research towards the posts on the account, you are either very lazy or very silly. If it's possible for someone to find the account to be spamming (whilst gaining no real reward for themselves), then I am 100% sure (and would have thought) that you would have done the same - especially so considering you were dropping $40+ into it.

You're expecting the staff to forgive you for:
  • Doing something that is not endorsed by the forum,
and then
  • Being ignorant/lazy whilst doing this causing you to buy a spammer's account.
I don't think - and hope - that no member of the staff wouldn't even think of allowing your account to be unbanned.

What nonsense? How could be I involved in a spam attempts which done by some one else and I bought the account after almost a week. please think once before saying something.
Because you're the owner of the account. You paid money in order to have access to a spammer's account to then post solely for the intention of earning money. This isn't the same situation as if the account was hacked, as that is not willing by the account owner. You buying the account means that you accept everything associated with the account - the account's post count, activity level, rank (which are all things useful to you) and any problems that may come along with the account.
If you don't agree with this, perhaps you should have 'thought once' before wasting your money buying a shit account.

my fault is only that I bought an account to earn some bitcoin from signature campaign. which is not a bad and illegal think according to forum rules and terms.
Buying an account isn't against the rules, no. Whether it is bad or not is subjective (and depends on who you ask).

Overall, you bought a shit account and got the consequences for doing so. Stop crying like a child because you were too lazy to do proper research, and accept said consequences.

Only one person can know about this and this is the previous owner of the account. I am sure the "Btcltccoin" reported this after 1 month. I don't know what benefit she get by doing this.
Hilarious can verify that who reported against this.
Why would hilariousandco tell you who reported the account so you could possibly harass them for doing so? Regardless, I believe that hilariousandco found the account to be spamming himself buy using a bot in a popular spam thread.



Here you go.  these  accounts are ALTS of Jak1.
GregH37
geopolisch
setupbounds
jak1
jamalaezaz
ardenyham
Digitial_lord
extrabyte
btcschool
StarOfBTC
OrangeSeller
Do you have any proof of this that you would like to post, or are you just talking out of your arse?
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June 20, 2016, 03:45:49 PM
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I dont want to be involved in this but OP mentioned my profile so i have to jump in to clarify myself as i am not related to selling of JAK1 and all this stuff.

I still wonder the mental condition of OP to include my Profile in all this (when i am not involved) ?




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Here you go.  these  accounts are ALTS of Jak1.
~snap~
Sounds like BS to me, especially since the only connection I've found is not included in the list.
Care to share how you come to make those asumptions? Around here, we prefer blockchain evidence over the words of random guys.

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Here you go.  these  accounts are ALTS of Jak1.


GregH37
geopolisch
jak1
jamalaezaz
ardenyham
Digitial_lord
extrabyte
btcschool
StarOfBTC
OrangeSeller
Since you got offended with OP'S post about you being ALT of the scammer,now I feel the same.Had you been really not involved in the entire matter,you'd just ask for proofs or leave it .But you retaliated the matter makes you look more suspicious.Anyhow OP was unable to provide all the blockchain evidences ,let me see what I can do.
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Id like to weigh in and ask a question here. I know the now owner of the jak1 account. A few months back the user added me on skype. He found my skype id on my profile. I didnt know he owned the account when i made my 1st post in this thread, nor any circumstances.

Anyways when this thread was made he asked me what he should do? Says he bought the account on may 24th or so. I dont know how many accounts the user has but in the few months ive known him he seems like a nice enough guy and doesnt come off as a scammer.

My advice was to pm hilariousandco and explain he had bought the account. Ive read replies from users saying when you buy an account you buy the trash that comes along with and similar statements.

Now my question is since this alt account he purchased was banned, is his main account also banned? Since he bought the account after the copy n paste posts were made and that looks to be the reason the account was banned, should he lose forum priveledges? Is it ban evasion if he proves the account was bought?

Curious to see what users think on this situation.

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