d5000
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January 07, 2018, 11:07:57 AM |
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You bring up a very good point about ARDR + IGNIS "diluting" each other. I like to think of this as Bitcoin + Litecoin rolled into one. As you say, Ignis can be used for day to day transactions kind of like the US dollar (using a fiat example) and Ardor can act as the reserve or "store of value" backing behind Ignis (like gold backing). I agree, good example with BTC/LTC. IMHO I'd like to see a 10:1 or 10:2 value ratio of Ardor to Ignis. This hinges on there being more than 1 economically active chain on the Ardor motherchain. So I guess what I'm saying is that a fair market value for Ardor should be around $10 and for Ignis around $1 to $2 for _now_.
I would place the current fair Ignis price a lot higher, at least at 50% of the Ardor price. Ignis, for now, is the only really important general-purpose childchain, and it will continue to be so in all 2018 if I interpret the Jelurida roadmap the right way. Bitswift, AEUR and the other planned child chains for this year are much less significant. For the medium-to-long term, the value of Ardor with respect to Ignis should however tend to increase to 10:3 or 10:2, once the child-chain ecosystem is fully developed. 1:10 is a bit low for Ignis, as it is supposed to continue to be the main general-purpose currency of the ecosystem, while the overwhelming majority of the other chains will be niche-currencies like in-game tokens. @jtbitz1: Good decision. However, I think the return rate currently would be very low, while in the future, the more child chains are active, you will get a decent amount of transaction fees. But more forgers support the network and help sustain its value/price.
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allinvain
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January 07, 2018, 03:16:03 PM |
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I can confirm that the current rate of return on forging is pretty low even with a decently sized balance. Still though, there is no logical reason why you should not forge and let the coins sit idle.
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January 07, 2018, 07:10:48 PM |
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where can i see how many wallets are forging?
what i saw is that there are only a few active bundlers. only 7 ignis, 1 AEUR and 4 BITSWIFT. without bundlers child chains won't work.
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MrChicken1987
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January 07, 2018, 09:51:09 PM |
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January 08, 2018, 12:28:43 AM |
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Lior Yaffe, Managing Director of Jelurida and core developer of NXT Ardor, joins QBTC to talk about the successful launch of the Ardor Platform and Ignis. He addresses questions about availability on the exchanges, the future plans of NXT and Ardor, the AEUR child chain and the responsibility Jelurida takes in entering into business relationships. https://youtu.be/nBp8wGcGfCc
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January 08, 2018, 03:08:31 AM |
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Lior Yaffe, Managing Director of Jelurida and core developer of NXT Ardor, joins QBTC to talk about the successful launch of the Ardor Platform and Ignis. He addresses questions about availability on the exchanges, the future plans of NXT and Ardor, the AEUR child chain and the responsibility Jelurida takes in entering into business relationships. https://youtu.be/nBp8wGcGfCcCan you tell what was said about availability in trade? I do not understand English well
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January 08, 2018, 07:03:41 AM |
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Ok, it's just my case. Found the solution! thanks.
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January 08, 2018, 07:10:17 AM |
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In the future, Europe's most recognizable will be A Duo because A Duo is endorsed by the bank. With the growth of the payment and the growth of the user, do you see whether the ARDOR is going to rise
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January 08, 2018, 07:13:43 AM |
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In the future, Europe's most recognizable will be A Duo because A Duo is endorsed by the bank. With the growth of the payment and the growth of the user, do you see whether the ARDOR is going to rise Yes, ARDOR should be more reliable than usdt, and then A Duo can change directly to the euro. A Duo is on the rise in the short term, but NXT ardr Ignis is an integral one, and you know that both ardr and Ignis are delivered free of charge by NXT snapshots
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January 08, 2018, 07:23:12 AM |
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In the future, Europe's most recognizable will be A Duo because A Duo is endorsed by the bank. With the growth of the payment and the growth of the user, do you see whether the ARDOR is going to rise Yes, ARDOR should be more reliable than usdt, and then A Duo can change directly to the euro. A Duo is on the rise in the short term, but NXT ardr Ignis is an integral one, and you know that both ardr and Ignis are delivered free of charge by NXT snapshots You have a good analysis, a look at the NXT ardr Ignis has a more in-depth study, the short-term ARDOR is really stronger than NXT.
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naska21
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January 08, 2018, 09:04:51 AM |
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Does it mean that Uber is going to launch childchain using Ardor platform? Cannot find any news on that.
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chaosfourever
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January 08, 2018, 04:21:59 PM |
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Does it mean that Uber is going to launch childchain using Ardor platform? Cannot find any news on that. Not sure, but if all goes well there may be a huge number of corporations coming to Ardor for help. At this rate I am just hoping for the exchanges to work. The hype is here and we need to be riding it. I worry about the marketing and getting up in price will at least give us some marketing while Ardor figures out how to do theirs.
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crypto33
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January 08, 2018, 04:26:53 PM |
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Wondering if anyone can help. I've been forging for the last few days (4-5), the wallet is fully synced and no firewall blocking it but I haven't earned anything, absolutely 0. The wallet is unlocked for forging and says that it is indeed forging but I'm still not earning, any ideas why?
Thanks in advance.
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MrChicken1987
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January 08, 2018, 05:39:07 PM |
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Wondering if anyone can help. I've been forging for the last few days (4-5), the wallet is fully synced and no firewall blocking it but I haven't earned anything, absolutely 0. The wallet is unlocked for forging and says that it is indeed forging but I'm still not earning, any ideas why?
Thanks in advance.
You need a decent amount of ARDOR (in any POS Coin) to forge a block. I just created a forging pool but we also haven't found anything until now.
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January 08, 2018, 07:26:45 PM |
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Wondering if anyone can help. I've been forging for the last few days (4-5), the wallet is fully synced and no firewall blocking it but I haven't earned anything, absolutely 0. The wallet is unlocked for forging and says that it is indeed forging but I'm still not earning, any ideas why?
Thanks in advance.
You need a decent amount of ARDOR (in any POS Coin) to forge a block. I just created a forging pool but we also haven't found anything until now. You need about 1 000 000 ARDR to forge 2-3 blocks per day.
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Brangdon
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January 08, 2018, 08:14:05 PM |
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Thanks allinvain, do you know the approximate return per 1,000 Ardor?
Approximately zero. Currently 340M are forging, so 240,000 ARDR will yield roughly one block a day. 80% of the last 100 blocks were empty. (ARDR needed for one block per day is total_forging/1440.)
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January 09, 2018, 09:20:59 AM |
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