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July 04, 2018, 06:51:36 AM
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Ardor project team's technology is very good, this is a technical value coin, it is worth investors to continue to hold patiently.

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July 06, 2018, 02:26:13 PM
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EOS may be better for people like social media companies, etc. I see the power of Ardors in the corporate world with supply chains, etc. The companies will pay a fee and 1 minute blocking is fine. This is the security and easy-to-use model they want and I think Ardor is great for that.



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July 06, 2018, 04:13:50 PM
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EOS may be better for people like social media companies, etc. I see the power of Ardors in the corporate world with supply chains, etc. The companies will pay a fee and 1 minute blocking is fine.
I agree overall, but I see it as a problem that child-chain creation currently is manual (it requires an update to the software), so there is less advantage to an independent blockchain. When pruning and automatic child chain creation are released, then Ardor is ready for take-off.



I still have a bit a hard time to understand "Lightweight Contracts". There should really be an ELI5 somewhere ... But I slowly make progress ...

As explained here, Lightweight Contracts are smart contracts which are only run by nodes that "have an interest running it".  Seems legit. But what I didn't understand first are the use cases.

Lior has written about an use case where a lightweight contract listens on an specific IGNIS address and exchanges the amount to ARDR.

This was a prime example for my understanding problem: because, what would happen if I send these IGNIS to this address, but the contract is not run anymore by anybody? Would I lose my IGNIS?

But it seems the answer is simply: Well, I can run the contract myself. The node controlling the account sending the ARDR has stored the contract on the blockchain, so everybody can find it. As long as there are ARDR in the specified account, the contract will execute correctly - and I can control that the ARDR are there. For the case someone was trying to "frontrun" me (i.e. emptying the ARDR account before I get the ARDR) the contract author could integrate a clause that if the ARDR account is empty, then the IGNIS can be sent back to the sender.

I still have doubts if there is not a flaw in the concept. Maybe I'll open a separate thread about "lightweight contracts" in the Altcoin Discussion forum.

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July 06, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
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I agree overall, but I see it as a problem that child-chain creation currently is manual (it requires an update to the software), so there is less advantage to an independent blockchain. When pruning and automatic child chain creation are released, then Ardor is ready for take-off.

And that is the point why I think Ardor won't take of as a Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform:
What happens when a child chain gets pruned? Can the child chain creator choose when pruning happens?

For instance:
If I have a company with supply chain, that wants to put information onto the blockchain. What happens when a supply takes... lets say 6 Weeks, due to shipping or something else but the chain gets pruned every 2 weeks?
Are the information lost? What happens in case of a warranty and I need the information on the blockchain?

Jelurida should explain how they imagine the concept of pruning in detail and give an example how this could work for companies.
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July 07, 2018, 07:52:13 AM
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I agree overall, but I see it as a problem that child-chain creation currently is manual (it requires an update to the software), so there is less advantage to an independent blockchain. When pruning and automatic child chain creation are released, then Ardor is ready for take-off.

And that is the point why I think Ardor won't take of as a Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform:
What happens when a child chain gets pruned? Can the child chain creator choose when pruning happens?

For instance:
If I have a company with supply chain, that wants to put information onto the blockchain. What happens when a supply takes... lets say 6 Weeks, due to shipping or something else but the chain gets pruned every 2 weeks?
Are the information lost? What happens in case of a warranty and I need the information on the blockchain?

Jelurida should explain how they imagine the concept of pruning in detail and give an example how this could work for companies.

You and others will run archival nodes, which keeps everything and do not prune data. Running archival node is just few settings in client properties file.
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July 07, 2018, 12:27:13 PM
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I agree overall, but I see it as a problem that child-chain creation currently is manual (it requires an update to the software), so there is less advantage to an independent blockchain. When pruning and automatic child chain creation are released, then Ardor is ready for take-off.

And that is the point why I think Ardor won't take of as a Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform:
What happens when a child chain gets pruned? Can the child chain creator choose when pruning happens?

For instance:
If I have a company with supply chain, that wants to put information onto the blockchain. What happens when a supply takes... lets say 6 Weeks, due to shipping or something else but the chain gets pruned every 2 weeks?
Are the information lost? What happens in case of a warranty and I need the information on the blockchain?

Jelurida should explain how they imagine the concept of pruning in detail and give an example how this could work for companies.

You and others will run archival nodes, which keeps everything and do not prune data. Running archival node is just few settings in client properties file.

Ohhh my brain. I already read something about archival nodes but didn't thought of them. Thanks for helping my brain out Grin Wink
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July 10, 2018, 06:20:16 AM
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From August 24th- 26th 2018 the Center for Applied Game Studies at Donau University Krems is hosting its first “Blockchain Hackathon meets Game Jam Hybrid” event.

The goal of this event is to unite the disciplines of blockchain-development and game studies in a meaningful way.
At this first event of this kind we like to introduce the “Blockchain as a service platform” Ardor with its unique “Childchain Architecture” and the brand new “lightweight contracts”. The participants of the hackathon will be split into two groups with the purpose to create a collector’s game with an educative purpose. An example would be to build a collectible card-game about the “17th century Tulip-Mania” in Amsterdam. The winning team will get a bounty powered by Jelurida.

The start of the event is organized as a conference to get in touch not only with blockchain technology, but to also learn more about games with a purpose and about the possibilities you have as young entrepreneur in this particular field.
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July 10, 2018, 06:59:43 AM
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July 10, 2018, 11:25:50 AM
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ARDOR the long-term development of this coin project is worth investors' expectation. The price of short-term coins is still in a downward trend.

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July 10, 2018, 01:53:55 PM
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July 11, 2018, 06:13:22 PM
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And that is the point why I think Ardor won't take of as a Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform:
What happens when a child chain gets pruned? Can the child chain creator choose when pruning happens?

For instance:
If I have a company with supply chain, that wants to put information onto the blockchain. What happens when a supply takes... lets say 6 Weeks, due to shipping or something else but the chain gets pruned every 2 weeks?
Are the information lost? What happens in case of a warranty and I need the information on the blockchain?
The last state of a node (e.g. its last balance) is not deleted by pruning - it's recorded in the account table (snapshot).

So if a company is afraid to lose information they could - apart from running archival nodes, as martismartis said - simply create a new account for each essential transaction that shouldn't get lost.

However, I don't believe that the scenario you describe is really the ideal use case for an Ardor childchain. Ardor childchains are best used when the last state of each account is the important information you need, not for the "data storage (with timestamps) in the blockchain" use case. Use cases would include internal payment networks (e.g. bonus point or gift card systems), in-game currencies (e.g. Linden Dollars) etc.

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July 11, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
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EOS may be better for people who like garbage projects

Cheesy fixed that for you!

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July 14, 2018, 07:24:37 AM
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Get Ardor, Nxt and Ignis Listed on Kucoin exchange.
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July 14, 2018, 10:07:45 AM
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July 15, 2018, 01:22:44 AM
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Although the overall encryption money market is sluggish, the ARDOR price has also dropped a lot. However, the ARDOR coin project is still advancing steadily, and the future development prospect is good.

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July 17, 2018, 08:01:34 AM
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July 17, 2018, 05:26:09 PM
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https://cryptovest.com/news/bulgarian-financial-watchdog-to-monitor-crypto-market/

I hope everything will be ok with Jelurida.
Or not?
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July 17, 2018, 08:15:10 PM
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Why? Has Jelurida moved to Bulgaria? They seem to attend a conference there, but the watchdog should only monitor activities of Bulgarian companies.

In your last newsletters you mentioned child chain subnets several times. Is there information available how they are planned to be implemented? I searched the Web and didn't really find details about it.

The big question for me is how the incentive model would change if some nodes would be allowed to only process certain childchains (as part of the Ardor mainchain, in the form of ChildChainBlock transactions). For example: Would  forging nodes be allowed to process only certain childchains? From the point of view of security, these are the most important nodes (equivalent to miners in Bitcoin) and if they were allowed to process only some childchains, then incentives to process the whole chain are lowered, and maybe certain child-chain transactions would lack the necessary security.

For non-forging nodes I don't see problems with the approach as also light clients are allowed, and these nodes processing only certain childchains could be regarded as light clients (like the Ethereum light clients). But if forging nodes would have to process all transactions, then the hardware requirements for forging nodes would stay very high (as the number of active childchains and thus, transactions increases).

Because of these questions, I would like a detailed description of what is planned. (I may repeat this question in the NXT forum if it's not addressed here - I see few activity from NXT/Ardor experts at Bitcointalk).

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July 18, 2018, 06:21:20 AM
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News Update abaout Exchange!! Binance will open trading for ARDR/BNB, ARDR/BTC and ARDR/ETH trading pairs at 2018/07/18 11:00 AM (UTC). Users can now start depositing ARDR in preparation for trading.
https://twitter.com/binance/status/1019462408065056768

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July 18, 2018, 06:43:44 AM
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News Update abaout Exchange!! Binance will open trading for ARDR/BNB, ARDR/BTC and ARDR/ETH trading pairs at 2018/07/18 11:00 AM (UTC). Users can now start depositing ARDR in preparation for trading.
https://twitter.com/binance/status/1019462408065056768
Finally!! Ardor will be listed on Binance.
It should have been listed there long time ago. Ardor is one of the most undervalued project in the market.

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