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June 25, 2016, 10:53:48 AM |
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How come eh casinoes have such different returns ? One is 2.4% one is 35% and one is 100% these are all with 1x Kelly. How come its so different ? Can I really make 100% ? Is the calculator I used right ?
Under-funded casinos with disproportionate turnover are the most attractive to invest in. Every casino has a different size bankroll and a varying volume, so the return is different for each.
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June 27, 2016, 03:06:09 PM |
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please read the link in above posting. your description of almost all Moneypot apps are wrong and it would be very much appreciated if you could correct those mistakes. thx
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TheBitcoinStrip.com (OP)
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June 27, 2016, 03:09:45 PM |
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please read the link in above posting. your description of almost all Moneypot apps are wrong and it would be very much appreciated if you could correct those mistakes. thx I don't quite understand the post. Is the problem that "faucet" should be "Yes" for all of those?
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June 27, 2016, 03:27:56 PM |
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please read the link in above posting. your description of almost all Moneypot apps are wrong and it would be very much appreciated if you could correct those mistakes. thx I don't quite understand the post. Is the problem that "faucet" should be "Yes" for all of those? please let me explain. all those casinos are powered by Moneypot.com that means all are using same Bank Roll, same faucet and Moneypot Provably Fair option. so all those options should be shown for all the casinos I mentioned cause they are all powered by Moneypot investDice is disabled and should not be on your list regarding our casino I would invite you to visit our casino so you can see the difference to the jackpotracer you advertised there. thank you again for the good work and I hope I could explain it now better and in case that not please feel free to ask thx
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June 27, 2016, 03:33:30 PM |
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please read the link in above posting. your description of almost all Moneypot apps are wrong and it would be very much appreciated if you could correct those mistakes. thx I don't quite understand the post. Is the problem that "faucet" should be "Yes" for all of those? please let me explain. all those casinos are powered by Moneypot.com that means all are using same Bank Roll, same faucet and Moneypot Provably Fair option. so all those options should be shown for all the casinos I mentioned cause they are all powered by Moneypot investDice is disabled and should not be on your list regarding our casino I would invite you to visit our casino so you can see the difference to the jackpotracer you advertised there. thank you again for the good work and I hope I could explain it now better and in case that not please feel free to ask thx Oh, yeah. I understand that all these casinos are powered by moneypot so they use a shared bankroll and all that, but currently the software treats them as individual casinos, so the details may not always be exactly the same all the time. I don't see it as an important issue though, so I'm just going to leave it. It would require some big code changes to synchronise them all. Thanks for bringing it to my attention though. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll update the info soon.
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JackpotRacer
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June 27, 2016, 03:47:04 PM |
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please read the link in above posting. your description of almost all Moneypot apps are wrong and it would be very much appreciated if you could correct those mistakes. thx I don't quite understand the post. Is the problem that "faucet" should be "Yes" for all of those? please let me explain. all those casinos are powered by Moneypot.com that means all are using same Bank Roll, same faucet and Moneypot Provably Fair option. so all those options should be shown for all the casinos I mentioned cause they are all powered by Moneypot investDice is disabled and should not be on your list regarding our casino I would invite you to visit our casino so you can see the difference to the jackpotracer you advertised there. thank you again for the good work and I hope I could explain it now better and in case that not please feel free to ask thx Oh, yeah. I understand that all these casinos are powered by moneypot so they use a shared bankroll and all that, but currently the software treats them as individual casinos, so the details may not always be exactly the same all the time. I don't see it as an important issue though, so I'm just going to leave it. It would require some big code changes to synchronise them all. Thanks for bringing it to my attention though. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll update the info soon. thank you for the understanding. I fully understand that if it is a lot of coding involved that you cant do it maybe that soon but to be frank that you don't see it as much important that does not mean that we see it same ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) for us it is yes very important that users don't get the wrong picture about all those casinos and especially about our casino. maybe those other casinos don't care that much as we so we would appreciate if you can't change as you said in near future the code and output please delete our casino (jackpotracer.com) from your list thx
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TheBitcoinStrip.com (OP)
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June 27, 2016, 03:55:17 PM |
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please read the link in above posting. your description of almost all Moneypot apps are wrong and it would be very much appreciated if you could correct those mistakes. thx I don't quite understand the post. Is the problem that "faucet" should be "Yes" for all of those? please let me explain. all those casinos are powered by Moneypot.com that means all are using same Bank Roll, same faucet and Moneypot Provably Fair option. so all those options should be shown for all the casinos I mentioned cause they are all powered by Moneypot investDice is disabled and should not be on your list regarding our casino I would invite you to visit our casino so you can see the difference to the jackpotracer you advertised there. thank you again for the good work and I hope I could explain it now better and in case that not please feel free to ask thx Oh, yeah. I understand that all these casinos are powered by moneypot so they use a shared bankroll and all that, but currently the software treats them as individual casinos, so the details may not always be exactly the same all the time. I don't see it as an important issue though, so I'm just going to leave it. It would require some big code changes to synchronise them all. Thanks for bringing it to my attention though. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll update the info soon. thank you for the understanding. I fully understand that if it is a lot of coding involved that you cant do it maybe that soon but to be frank that you don't see it as much important that does not mean that we see it same ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) for us it is yes very important that users don't get the wrong picture about all those casinos and especially about our casino. maybe those other casinos don't care that much as we so we would appreciate if you can't change as you said in near future the code and output please delete our casino (jackpotracer.com) from your list thx I'm a bit confused. What do you see as the big issue exactly? The casinos are still individual casinos with seperate websites, communities, designs, games, etc. The only similarity is that they share the same bankroll because of the fact that they are powered by the Moneypot framework. What's the problem?
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JackpotRacer
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June 27, 2016, 04:08:55 PM |
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please read the link in above posting. your description of almost all Moneypot apps are wrong and it would be very much appreciated if you could correct those mistakes. thx I don't quite understand the post. Is the problem that "faucet" should be "Yes" for all of those? please let me explain. all those casinos are powered by Moneypot.com that means all are using same Bank Roll, same faucet and Moneypot Provably Fair option. so all those options should be shown for all the casinos I mentioned cause they are all powered by Moneypot investDice is disabled and should not be on your list regarding our casino I would invite you to visit our casino so you can see the difference to the jackpotracer you advertised there. thank you again for the good work and I hope I could explain it now better and in case that not please feel free to ask thx Oh, yeah. I understand that all these casinos are powered by moneypot so they use a shared bankroll and all that, but currently the software treats them as individual casinos, so the details may not always be exactly the same all the time. I don't see it as an important issue though, so I'm just going to leave it. It would require some big code changes to synchronise them all. Thanks for bringing it to my attention though. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll update the info soon. thank you for the understanding. I fully understand that if it is a lot of coding involved that you cant do it maybe that soon but to be frank that you don't see it as much important that does not mean that we see it same ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) for us it is yes very important that users don't get the wrong picture about all those casinos and especially about our casino. maybe those other casinos don't care that much as we so we would appreciate if you can't change as you said in near future the code and output please delete our casino (jackpotracer.com) from your list thx I'm a bit confused. What do you see as the big issue exactly? The casinos are still individual casinos with seperate websites, communities, designs, games, etc. The only similarity is that they share the same bankroll because of the fact that they are powered by the Moneypot framework. What's the problem? sorry if I caused any confusion. yes the casinos are individual casinos seperate websites (own domains) different design but same community and players cause they need to register with Moneypot.com same Bank Roll same Faucet same Provably Fair to me it looks like that you did not yet understand the Moneypot business model. what I mean is that you can't praise BetterBets that they have invest option, faucet and provably fair and our casino (or also the others) are only provably fair but we have also invest option and faucet because all is delivered by Moneypot.com and if you can't add those important points (for us important) soon as you stated we would like to ask you to take our casino off this list and add it whenever you are ready thx
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June 27, 2016, 04:17:01 PM |
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to me it looks like that you did not yet understand the Moneypot business model. what I mean is that you can't praise BetterBets that they have invest option, faucet and provably fair and our casino (or also the others) are only provably fair
but we have also invest option and faucet because all is delivered by Moneypot.com
LOL jealousy at its high limit, just because you and betterbets are using moneypot doesnt mean that this site should be giving you the same courtesy as they gave to betterbets. Admit it and look with your own eyes, betterbets is one of the most popular sites currently and yours are crap @Bitcoinstrip : just take them out of your list, one less unimportant casino that will fill your database anyway
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June 27, 2016, 04:33:09 PM |
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to me it looks like that you did not yet understand the Moneypot business model. what I mean is that you can't praise BetterBets that they have invest option, faucet and provably fair and our casino (or also the others) are only provably fair
but we have also invest option and faucet because all is delivered by Moneypot.com
LOL jealousy at its high limit, just because you and betterbets are using moneypot doesnt mean that this site should be giving you the same courtesy as they gave to betterbets. Admit it and look with your own eyes, betterbets is one of the most popular sites currently and yours are crap @Bitcoinstrip : just take them out of your list, one less unimportant casino that will fill your database anyway yea was waiting for your posting lel and thx for showing us your signature and now you get another 0.00013 lel as I asked Op to take us off the list you don't need to ask for us and that only shows that you are hunting us with your pointless postings. we will report you to your sig manager and he should take you off the sig campaign list. you are not the first who will lose the sig after we reported it you should read my posting and not jump in with hate I asked the OP to add to our casino and to other MP casinos here listed that they offer Invest option Faucet Provably Fair as all MP apps/casino offering this I did not ask the OP to add "highly Rated" that is written next to BB and if you like it or not BB is using MP like we and all other hundreds of apps
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June 27, 2016, 04:37:45 PM |
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to me it looks like that you did not yet understand the Moneypot business model. what I mean is that you can't praise BetterBets that they have invest option, faucet and provably fair and our casino (or also the others) are only provably fair
but we have also invest option and faucet because all is delivered by Moneypot.com
LOL jealousy at its high limit, just because you and betterbets are using moneypot doesnt mean that this site should be giving you the same courtesy as they gave to betterbets. Admit it and look with your own eyes, betterbets is one of the most popular sites currently and yours are crap @Bitcoinstrip : just take them out of your list, one less unimportant casino that will fill your database anyway yea was waiting for your posting lel and thx for showing us your signature and now you get another 0.00013 lel as I asked Op to take us off the list you don't need to ask for us and that only shows that you are hunting us with your pointless postings. we will report you to your sig manager and he should take you off the sig campaign list. you are not the first who will lose the sig after we reported it you should read my posting and not jump in with hate I asked the OP to add to our casino and to other MP casinos here listed that they offer Invest option Faucet Provably Fair as all MP apps/casino offering this I did not ask the OP to add "highly Rated" that is written next to BB and if you like it or not BB is using MP like we and all other hundreds of apps All you can do is write a huge number of words in this forum however if you are so smart and all, do it yourself . All you can do is keep on asking and all , also go figure what is wrong and why most people are hating you around here. Figure whats wrong, starting from your silly attitude and be grateful that even bitcoinstrip included your crap casino on their site
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TheBitcoinStrip.com (OP)
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June 27, 2016, 04:48:44 PM |
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sorry if I caused any confusion. yes the casinos are individual casinos seperate websites (own domains) different design
Right. but same community and players cause they need to register with Moneypot.com same Bank Roll same Faucet same Provably Fair
Right. what I mean is that you can't praise BetterBets that they have invest option, faucet and provably fair and our casino (or also the others) are only provably fair
Why not? It doesn't matter how it is achieved; if a casino has provable fairness I will praise it for that. What's the problem with this? I'm trying to think of something to compare your argument to, to give you a better understanding of what you're trying to convey... It's like saying that I can't praise a site for using HTTPS because they didn't invent the SSL technology. It's like saying I can't say a casino's web design is user-friendly if they used a CSS framework like Bootstrap. It's like saying I can't say a website is fast if they use a CDN like Amazon S3 or CloudFlare. It's a complete non-argument. Do you understand? It's not like I haven't mentioned in the review that they use Moneypot's technology, either. Although it wouldn't change anything if I didn't. but we have also invest option and faucet because all is delivered by Moneypot.com
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June 27, 2016, 04:56:17 PM |
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I'm a big fan of the idea of this site, from what I've seen this site and dicesites.com are the only two not totally corrupt and shady bitcoin review sites out there.
Out of interest, what is the criteria you use on your homepage to order casinos? Also I'm not sure your leaderboard is totally correct. Currently you're showing in the last 7 days:
* BetterBets ~33425 BTC wagered (dicesites shows 1249) * PrimeDice (looks correct enough) * BitDice.me ~6326.0412 BTC wagered (looks on the high side, but ok) * Bustabit 4976.2108 BTC wagered (seems right, exact would be 4896)
Anyway, keep up the good work!
Thanks RHavar. I've been having trouble crawling Moneypot-enabled casinos in the past few days. They seem to have added some bot protection since the recent DDoS, and my bot is being caught in it. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I'll get around it, though, and the numbers will adjust themselves shortly. As for the ranking criteria on the homepage, it's actually pretty complex and uses mostly arbitrary metrics. It's basically a points system, and the way casinos get points is by having a high rating, a low edge, provable fairness, a cold wallet, anonymity, an invest option, a high max profit, high weekly/monthly/yearly wagered/bet numbers, etc. It's definitely not the most effective system, but whatever.
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JackpotRacer
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June 27, 2016, 04:59:44 PM |
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sorry if I caused any confusion. yes the casinos are individual casinos seperate websites (own domains) different design
Right. but same community and players cause they need to register with Moneypot.com same Bank Roll same Faucet same Provably Fair
Right. what I mean is that you can't praise BetterBets that they have invest option, faucet and provably fair and our casino (or also the others) are only provably fair
Why not? by agreeing 2 times saying "right" and then saying "why not" it looks like you want to insist that your list is correct. we don't agree and please delete our JackpotRacer from your list. thank you
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TheBitcoinStrip.com (OP)
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June 27, 2016, 05:00:55 PM |
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sorry if I caused any confusion. yes the casinos are individual casinos seperate websites (own domains) different design
Right. but same community and players cause they need to register with Moneypot.com same Bank Roll same Faucet same Provably Fair
Right. what I mean is that you can't praise BetterBets that they have invest option, faucet and provably fair and our casino (or also the others) are only provably fair
Why not? by agreeing 2 times saying "right" and then saying "why not" it looks like you want to insist that your list is correct. we don't agree and please delete our JackpotRacer from your list. thank you I refuse. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Read the rest of my post, lol.
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June 27, 2016, 05:06:34 PM |
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Nice site now we can see all casino sites and i think it will help for most gamblers to know what site is the best to play and what site is popular..
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TheBitcoinStrip.com (OP)
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June 27, 2016, 05:07:44 PM |
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Nice site now we can see all casino sites and i think it will help for most gamblers to know what site is the best to play and what site is popular..
Thanks mate. Glad you like it.
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June 27, 2016, 05:34:48 PM |
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P.S. save your time and add JackpotRacer to your ignore list, he's incoherent at the best of times
why didn't you put JackpotRacer to your ignore list? it is time to do it. I will never put you on ignore cause I enjoy your postings like I enjoy dooglus and NLNico postings or maybe you can explain why MP casinos/apps should not be treated same in OP's list? they use all same BR same Faucet and same Provably Fair that BetterBets is best MP app is undisputed from our side but they use MP BR, Faucet and Provably Fair if my request to add those points are so incoherent why did OP add it? I can tell you why because he is a fair guy and want to deliver a fair list. oh sorry for my english
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