Understanding Ethereum by Coindesk - $500

[DmitryWeb]

https://www.coindesk.com/research/understanding-ethereum-report/


Coindesk was selling a ebook for $500, had a spare $500 laying around, decided to buy it and leak it.

Enjoy my friends!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/juxb37

@Coindesk if you see this: Information should be free

[DmitryWeb]

Little preview of it:
https://i.imgur.com/ifi7kVj.png
https://i.imgur.com/HodvkS9.png
https://i.imgur.com/2wL1MPs.png

[HatakeKakashi]

Thank you man but a 3mb pdf file for 500$?

[benthach]

coindesk is etherieum paid pumper, they pump etherium on every article they have and it happen very often, too. dao was hacked then a few days later they keep pumping etherium and bragged about it. i used to think this site is useful but not much anymore or just skip their etherium article, nothing but pump.

[DmitryWeb]

coindesk is etherieum paid pumper, they pump etherium on every article they have and it happen very often, too. dao was hacked then a few days later they keep pumping etherium and bragged about it. i used to think this site is useful but not much anymore or just skip their etherium article, nothing but pump.

I don't think they are a paid pumper, they prob just are invested in it lol

[benthach]

coindesk is etherieum paid pumper, they pump etherium on every article they have and it happen very often, too. dao was hacked then a few days later they keep pumping etherium and bragged about it. i used to think this site is useful but not much anymore or just skip their etherium article, nothing but pump.

I don't think they are a paid pumper, they prob just are invested in it lol

yes, they prob heavy invested in it, like all eggs in one basket. just check on every coindesk article about etherieum, nothing but pump, even this vaporware have nothing to offer at this point.

[BigSirko]

Poloniex Troll box is very excited about NEM and many people have gone from ETH to NEM.

Will Ethereum ever recover?  Bitcoin was $1250 pre-MtGox.  I think DAO is like an MtGox event and I would be surprised if Ethereum ever hit $20 again.  Looks like the new and upcoming cryptocurrency is NEM.  Went from 300 Satoshi days ago to an ATH of 1247 Satoshi today.

[iamnotback]

Poloniex Troll box is very excited about NEM and many people have gone from ETH to NEM.

When someone mentions another coin when criticizing another one with a larger mcap, immediately the readers suspect conflict of interest.

Will Ethereum ever recover?  Bitcoin was $1250 pre-MtGox.  I think DAO is like an MtGox event and I would be surprised if Ethereum ever hit $20 again.  Looks like the new and upcoming cryptocurrency is NEM.  Went from 300 Satoshi days ago to an ATH of 1247 Satoshi today.

I expect Ethereum will continue to rise again. There are lot of supporters and projects based on Ethereum who are determined to see it go on.

I don't know for sure if it can finally break itself sufficiently. Perhaps the next fork after this DAO one (Augur?), might do it.

The speculation side of things is somewhat disconnected from the technological realities (or at least for the near-term).

Then again, maybe this report is a signal that there isn't sufficient buying demand and that the public has turned sour on Ethereum. But seems they have too many hypes in the pipeline to stay down from too long.

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

Someone pays $500 for an ebook and offers a free pdf? Pdfs are known to deliver malware payloads I would be very careful about downloading and opening that offer. Saturday nights are the time hackers come out to play. No offense, I just do not trust your offer.

[entertheabyss]

its 43 pages, so north of 11.50 per page for information accessible on the internet for free
do any of the following pages feel like they are worth 10 bucks?




coindesk has been pumping these expensive reports on various topics for a while so i guess someone is buying this crap
im guess some vc fucker just wants someone to lay it out real simple like
i can think of better things to do with 500 bones

either way, thank you OP for the leak,

[tokeweed]

Poloniex Troll box is very excited about NEM and many people have gone from ETH to NEM.

When someone mentions another coin when criticizing another one with a larger mcap, immediately the readers suspect conflict of interest.

Will Ethereum ever recover?  Bitcoin was $1250 pre-MtGox.  I think DAO is like an MtGox event and I would be surprised if Ethereum ever hit $20 again.  Looks like the new and upcoming cryptocurrency is NEM.  Went from 300 Satoshi days ago to an ATH of 1247 Satoshi today.

I expect Ethereum will continue to rise again. There are lot of supporters and projects based on Ethereum who are determined to see it go on.

I don't know for sure if it can finally break itself sufficiently. Perhaps the next fork after this DAO one (Augur?), might do it.

The speculation side of things is somewhat disconnected from the technological realities (or at least for the near-term).

Then again, maybe this report is a signal that there isn't sufficient buying demand and that the public has turned sour on Ethereum. But seems they have too many hypes in the pipeline to stay down from too long.

Instead on focusing entirely on the DAO hack.  Shouldn't we question if there are security issues with Solidity and Ethereum itself?  I mean what if this is only the beginning.  What if other multimillion dollar dapps and daos get hacked in the future due to a fundamental flaw in the platform.

I'm sorry but we need to know.  I'm not a coder/dev, just a mere amateur trader.  So it would be nice to know from known devs what's really up with Ethereum and Solidity's security issues if there are any.

[DmitryWeb]

Someone pays $500 for an ebook and offers a free pdf? Pdfs are known to deliver malware payloads I would be very careful about downloading and opening that offer. Saturday nights are the time hackers come out to play. No offense, I just do not trust your offer.

run it in a virtual machine/sandbox if you don't trust it lol

[old fart]

Enjoy my friends!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/juxb37

A virustotal scan gave one positive malware warnng. It said sendspace is a malicious site. That might be a false positive, I'm not familiar with sendspace. Is it a dropbox alternative?

https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/00c613c5faef9f9c1edf6b2d907649ce991c88a6e7e0d3c085be8e73d2b96421/analysis/1466833140/

[coaltin]

@Dimitry u must be some deep web guy.There are lots of signs of it-
1.U spend $500 on some random ebook.
2.U use sendspace.
3.U are Russian.
But above it thanks for the share man.I really appreciate it.

How do I know all these?
Birds with same feather flock together

[jjacob]

When somebody tries to sell ebooks for $500, it is bound to be pirated.
The key is to keep the price low and obtain volumes. I am sure this would have worked in this case as well.

[entertheabyss]

Poloniex Troll box is very excited about NEM and many people have gone from ETH to NEM.

When someone mentions another coin when criticizing another one with a larger mcap, immediately the readers suspect conflict of interest.

Will Ethereum ever recover?  Bitcoin was $1250 pre-MtGox.  I think DAO is like an MtGox event and I would be surprised if Ethereum ever hit $20 again.  Looks like the new and upcoming cryptocurrency is NEM.  Went from 300 Satoshi days ago to an ATH of 1247 Satoshi today.

I expect Ethereum will continue to rise again. There are lot of supporters and projects based on Ethereum who are determined to see it go on.

I don't know for sure if it can finally break itself sufficiently. Perhaps the next fork after this DAO one (Augur?), might do it.

The speculation side of things is somewhat disconnected from the technological realities (or at least for the near-term).

Then again, maybe this report is a signal that there isn't sufficient buying demand and that the public has turned sour on Ethereum. But seems they have too many hypes in the pipeline to stay down from too long.

Instead on focusing entirely on the DAO hack.  Shouldn't we question if there are security issues with Solidity and Ethereum itself?  I mean what if this is only the beginning.  What if other multimillion dollar dapps and daos get hacked in the future due to a fundamental flaw in the platform.

I'm sorry but we need to know.  I'm not a coder/dev, just a mere amateur trader.  So it would be nice to know from known devs what's really up with Ethereum and Solidity's security issues if there are any.

https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/06/19/thinking-smart-contract-security/

 Posted by Vitalik Buterin on June 19th, 2016.

This list (original source here) is as follows:

    The DAO (obviously)
    The “payout index without the underscore” ponzi (“FirePonzi”)
    The casino with a public RNG seed
    Governmental (1100 ETH stuck because payout exceeds gas limit)
    5800 ETH swiped (by whitehats) from an ETH-backed ERC20 token
    The King of the Ether game
    Rubixi : Fees stolen because the constructor function had an incorrect name, allowing anyone to become the owner
    Rock paper scissors trivially cheatable because the first to move shows their hand
    Various instances of funds lost because a recipient contained a fallback function that consumed more than 2300 gas, causing sends to them to fail.
    Various instances of call stack limit exceptions.


As  Vitalik puts it, there are some issues and several fuck ups
however he is looking at the situation naturally baised and optimistic, the situation is worse then what the article describes

such as the "Much more subtle game-theoretic weaknesses where at the limit people even debate whether or not they’re bugs: the DAO" is really a combination of lots of fuck ups
like non-acid poorly coded transactions and a recursion bug

im not an expert either, but thats how i understand it

there was a researched who also published a paper on the several security issues, not sure the link for that

[smoothie]

Wrong subforum. Belongs in markeplace.

[iamnotback]

Wrong subforum. Belongs in markeplace.

Why? We want to learn about Ethereum and upcoming projects on it.

Disclaimer: I own no ETH and have no vested interest in ETH.

[twunkle]

Instead on focusing entirely on the DAO hack.  Shouldn't we question if there are security issues with Solidity and Ethereum itself?  I mean what if this is only the beginning.  What if other multimillion dollar dapps and daos get hacked in the future due to a fundamental flaw in the platform.

I'm sorry but we need to know.  I'm not a coder/dev, just a mere amateur trader.  So it would be nice to know from known devs what's really up with Ethereum and Solidity's security issues if there are any.

Without knowing all details of the EVM, it is low level programming. I assume that a lot of apps written on it will provide some sort of exchange between eth and app specific value. If this functionality is implemented over and over for each specific app, then the amount of hacks and screw-ups will only grow. This means that this particular function (exchange/transformation of value) would need to be in the EVM so these hacks/screwups can only occur there and also only need to be fixed there in case of issues. However I guess that by doing so the flexibility of building things on top of the EVM will probably also be reduced significantly.

[Spoetnik]

coindesk is etherieum paid pumper, they pump etherium on every article they have and it happen very often, too. dao was hacked then a few days later they keep pumping etherium and bragged about it. i used to think this site is useful but not much anymore or just skip their etherium article, nothing but pump.

Yup when ETH launched Coindesk had already run a shitload of huge massive News stories
that were nothing more than advertising & hype.. which is super weird & random.
i even came here and brought it up numerous times back in 2014..
it was blatant & vulgar and turned me off the site and their scammy dipshit moron antics..
i never went back to that gay scammy shit hole ever again 

Thanks for sharing OP but i don't want to hear any shit that comes out of their mouths.
They are scammy idiots.. fuck 'em.

And by the way there is far more dirt on Coindesk if you all want to really get into it.

..just another group of scheming greedy corrupt selfish little fuckhead investards.

ETH = SCAM.